To the "elite" people in NP

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mehuge

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Firstly, let me make it clear what I am about to say is my own opinion and not necessarily the opinion of my guild, so if you have any issues with what I am about to say then direct them at me and not my guild.

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There are various people within NP who think that because they are in NP and are of high RR that puts them on some kind of pedistal that makes them better more worthy people than everyone else, and to be frank, some of your members attitude STINKS.

We are running around in odins in 2fg. We come across a group of NP taking on approx 2fg of hibs outside bled. We run in an take some of the enemy.

We are "told" by NP in a rather unpolite way that we "should not Zerg in 2fg at 3 o'clock in the afternoon". A later rude comment was directed at one of our group members who in response to another zerg comment simply made a comment to try and lighten to mood.

Regardless of the rights or wrongs of running in to an existing battle and "leaching" rp, what I would like to know is, who made you the rule makers?

You earn the right to set the rules by earning respect and showing "the right way", not by making rude elitist remarks.

What really made me chuckle inside about this comment made by NP was that I have oh so many times seen 2fg of NP in emain run into an existing battle under the guise of the Knights in Shining armour coming to the recue (which it is often taken as such and people are often great full for the help, but not always) when I suspect that is not your real motive at all, but you want RP as do most.

I have a much more relaxed attitude to the whole thing. Even though I would much prefere to meet the enemy on a more even footing because it makes for a much more interesting fight, I accept that when there are a large imbalance of mids to enemy then there IS going to be a scramble for the RP's and I accept that and DONT make rude comments about it.

In this war against the "albs" and the "hibs", at the end of the day, killing the enemy is the goal, RP's are just the bonus.

So I say to you NP people who think you are above the rest, get off your pedastle and show maturity and tollerence, and teach by example not by making rude remarks, and get used to the fact that when there are alot of people playing on one side there will be a degree of zerging and remember that they have as much right as you to be there even if you dont consider them "as good as you".

In a word: Chill!
 
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Petronella

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this is meant in excalibur RvR is it not? :/
 
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old.Gombur Glodson

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Learn the power of scrolling!

Whoa!
 
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ImLestat

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Seems like it belongs in the Excal part yes.

The general attitude he describes though are felt here too and is one of the reasons why I hardly play any more.
 
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zmurf

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Originally posted by mehuge
There are various people within NP who think that because they are in NP and are of high RR that puts them on some kind of pedistal that makes them better more worthy people than everyone else, and to be frank, some of your members attitude STINKS.

We are running around in odins in 2fg. We come across a group of NP taking on approx 2fg of hibs outside bled. We run in an take some of the enemy.

We are "told" by NP in a rather unpolite way that we "should not Zerg in 2fg at 3 o'clock in the afternoon". A later rude comment was directed at one of our group members who in response to another zerg comment simply made a comment to try and lighten to mood.

Regardless of the rights or wrongs of running in to an existing battle and "leaching" rp, what I would like to know is, who made you the rule makers?

You earn the right to set the rules by earning respect and showing "the right way", not by making rude elitist remarks.

What really made me chuckle inside about this comment made by NP was that I have oh so many times seen 2fg of NP in emain run into an existing battle under the guise of the Knights in Shining armour coming to the recue (which it is often taken as such and people are often great full for the help, but not always) when I suspect that is not your real motive at all, but you want RP as do most.

I have a much more relaxed attitude to the whole thing. Even though I would much prefere to meet the enemy on a more even footing because it makes for a much more interesting fight, I accept that when there are a large imbalance of mids to enemy then there IS going to be a scramble for the RP's and I accept that and DONT make rude comments about it.

In this war against the "albs" and the "hibs", at the end of the day, killing the enemy is the goal, RP's are just the bonus.

So I say to you NP people who think you are above the rest, get off your pedastle and show maturity and tollerence, and teach by example not by making rude remarks, and get used to the fact that when there are alot of people playing on one side there will be a degree of zerging and remember that they have as much right as you to be there even if you dont consider them "as good as you".

I would like u, to tell me, how u came to the conclusion, that because me and stubbe (yes it was me and stubbe who came with the comment's / hint's that u zerg, and therefor ruin the way, we see rvr fit, not trying to enforce our rules on u, we r just informing u we see it wrong to zerg) came with remark's like "We zerg, therefor we are" and "Why do u see it fit to run 2fg at 3'o'clock", we think we r better than u ? it make's no sense what so ever to come to that conclusion, only way to analyze the comment's and come up with this, is if u start out with a very negative attitude toward's the ppl and forcing out a "as bad as possible" conclusion ...

I would like those SS's of 16 NP in emain, hell show me a SS of 14 NP in emain or just 12 maybe even 10, cause there surely can't be many (unless they r over 6 month's old) 2 night's the last 5~6month's we have had 2fg NP's running together, the rest of the night's and yes i do mean THE REST we have been running either 1fg or 2 fg different area's (odin's / emain / hw ).

This is a game, i play this to have fun, and yes the goal in this game might be getting rp at any course but i see this goal as twisted and wrong, getting RP fairly in FG fight's is fun, and i therefor see THIS as the goal of the game I choose to play, if u see it in any other way, sure go ahead and play it this way, but fg's don't ruin the game for zerger's, zerger's ruins the game for fg's ...

I even took SS of the comment's btw, and i'll host em when my host get's back up (took ss of the White rose / black company Zerg, not the actually comment's but they r on the SS), and ill like u to tell me how EXCACLY u got to this very odd conclusion ...
 
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Qte Eth

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tbh doubt it will happen if you would not Zerg in 2fg at 3 o'clock in the afternoon
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chiefbootknocka

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zmurf i got pics of you mounting german soldiers
 
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zmurf

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hehe, bifffoooooon, show ss's plz ... and as i said, they r very probably, old as hell ... :)
 
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Aussie-

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Mehuge, Ask them to pay your supscription next time :m00:
 
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Crashtje

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I would like u, to tell me, how u came to the conclusion, that because me and stubbe (yes it was me and stubbe who came with the comment's / hint's that u zerg, and therefor ruin the way, we see rvr fit, not trying to enforce our rules on u, we r just informing u we see it wrong to zerg) came with remark's like "We zerg, therefor we are" and "Why do u see it fit to run 2fg at 3'o'clock", we think we r better than u ? it make's no sense what so ever to come to that conclusion, only way to analyze the comment's and come up with this, is if u start out with a very negative attitude toward's the ppl and forcing out a "as bad as possible" conclusion ...


What so, if your on at 3 oclock in the afternoon, you cant join a group Just incase you happen to zerg and (from what i can see) Steal all of NP`s easy rps ? emain = nobly turf???? methinks not, keep your self to yourself imo stubbe and co, if u dont want zerg`ing FO to HW or something. Let the lower RR`s roam emain , make HW a fg vs fg place imo.
 
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zmurf

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Originally posted by [PDC]Alexie
What so, if your on at 3 oclock in the afternoon, you cant join a group Just incase you happen to zerg and (from what i can see) Steal all of NP`s easy rps ? emain = nobly turf???? methinks not, keep your self to yourself imo stubbe and co, if u dont want zerg`ing FO to HW or something. Let the lower RR`s roam emain , make HW a fg vs fg place imo.

U really should read the post again, this didn't happen in emain ... and i just said we don't enforce our rules on anyone, we just expres our fealing's towards zerg ...
 
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dyss

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Originally posted by mehuge

Even though I would much prefere to meet the enemy on a more even footing because it makes for a much more interesting fight
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1fg albs/1fg hibs vs 2fg mid = even fight for u?

and if u don't play 1fg u don't going to learn how to pick right target or help your suports to surive. When u have learn that and can kill a 1fg without anyone in your grp dies... now THATS fun!
But u maybe think it's fun to spam "f6" and spam your attack style becous it dosen't matter if u hit a tank or a suport u will kill the other grp anyway becous u have another grp as doing same thing.
 
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old.XanateA

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Mehugen00b says:
We are running around in odins in 2fg. We come across a group of NP taking on approx 2fg of hibs outside bled. We run in an take some of the enemy.

I laugh and fall off my chair irl.
And then you say:



We are "told" by NP in a rather unpolite way that we "should not Zerg in 2fg at 3 o'clock in the afternoon".
I say: Good work Stubbe and fonS, altho i could have made a better comment i am sure!!

Here, Why are you running 2FG in ODINS at fucking 3pm if you also enjoy a fight on even footing... HeHeHe. WR dont need a reason to zerg, they do it anyways. Altho i've seen you try and run 1FG in emain last night...

I have a much more relaxed attitude to the whole thing. Even though I would much prefere to meet the enemy on a more even footing because it makes for a much more interesting fight, I accept that when there are a large imbalance of mids to enemy then there IS going to be a scramble for the RP's and I accept that and DONT make rude comments about it.

Imo you should get ur head out of the hole in the ground and take a look around to see how the world is like.
Would you enjoy a football game where the other team has 20 players and 2 goalkeepers, and ur team only has 10 players and 1 goalkeeper? It's exacly the same thing...
(Well NP is Real Madrid and ppl who run in 2FG are division 7 women football teams, so its rather even odds anyways)

./em goes to sit in his high and mighty chair on the pedastale
 
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hercules-df

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everyone move to hib/alb and leave the eleet np scum on their own.
 
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Crashtje

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Oops, immediatly presumed it was emain, any how i reckon goa shud ban Llaw Arian , Vengeance, Nolby Pride, First Cohort from emain and banish them to hadrians wall :X
 
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Aussie-

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Session Start: Sat Jul 05 16:33:37 2003
Session Ident: #nolby
[17:24:18] [@XanateA^^]: 2fg
[17:24:23] [@XanateA^^]: but u r 5fg

Session Start: Sat Jul 06 00:41:06 2003
Session Ident: #nolby
[00:46:00] [@XanateA^f00d]: just liek teh 2-3fg AR/CF whatever group and 3-4fg random hibs and lets not even mention the albs
[00:46:27] [@XanateA^f00d]: i admti we run 2fg, but its justified =)


Aus 2 - Smurf 0 :D
 
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old.Tzeentch

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2fg AR.. like once a month :x

5-6fg albs, similar mids, and i gotta be stupid to go with 1 =/
 
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Gorb

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Yeah 1 FG fights would be nice. But with this server population it's really hard to have room for all those FGs roaming out there.

What if a guild has 11 or 13 players? Are you just gonna tell those 3-5 players: "Sorry, we are already a fg, go run and run with 3-5 peeps in emain and get slaughtered by a fg." (Yeah right I know a fg in emain :p more likely to get killed by a zerg) But anyways we all have paid for our subscribtion and have the right to play it as we like it (that beeing zerging or running in 1fg).

If you don't have the tools to win in fg-fg fight then of course you will use whatever means you can to win, nobody likes to bite the dust all the time. Saying that peeps can't run in 2fgs+ cause there is no challenge in zerging is like saying that a fg of RR6 group cannot attack a fg of rr0, since it's not a fair battle. And let's face it daoc still gets new players everyday and those rr0 peeps or random groups have to rely on numbers to survive the rampage of Nolby, RG, FC, LA or any highly talented guild groups.

In the end this game is all about having fun, so let's not judge people on the way the do rvr, since I don't think there are people that find dying fun.
 
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old.anubis

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Re: Re: To the "elite" people in NP

Originally posted by zmurf
This is a game, i play this to have fun, and yes the goal in this game might be getting rp at any course but i see this goal as twisted and wrong, getting RP fairly in FG fight's is fun, and i therefor see THIS as the goal of the game I choose to play, if u see it in any other way, sure go ahead and play it this way, but fg's don't ruin the game for zerger's, zerger's ruins the game for fg's ...

I even took SS of the comment's btw, and i'll host em when my host get's back up (took ss of the White rose / black company Zerg, not the actually comment's but they r on the SS), and ill like u to tell me how EXCACLY u got to this very odd conclusion ...

some peeps like coca cola some like beer
some like potatoes some like beef
some like to play daoc some like to play football
some like to move in 1 fg others like to move in 10 fgs

it's not your business where, when and how other people rvr
you like to move in 1fg? go on
but dont teach every1 else how to do it, ok?

again, it's not your business
 
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Freppe^^

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Re: Re: Re: To the "elite" people in NP

Originally posted by old.anubis
some peeps like coca cola some like beer
some like potatoes some like beef
some like to play daoc some like to play football
some like to move in 1 fg others like to move in 10 fgs

it's not your business where, when and how other people rvr
you like to move in 1fg? go on
but dont teach every1 else how to do it, ok?

again, it's not your business

nice
 
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mehuge

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Originally posted by zmurf
I would like u, to tell me, how u came to the conclusion,
An opinion that I have formulated over a long time RvRing (and not just based on todays events) of the type of comments I have seen from NP players.

2 night's the last 5~6month's
A case of selective memory perhaps, but I dont have any screen shots so I will accept your observation.

This is a game, i play this to have fun, and yes the goal in this game might be getting rp at any course
On the contrary, I dont think the goal is getting RP "at any course" but defeating the enemy primarily, then having fun, but it's nice when you ding another RL

Other people play to have fun also, but it seems that when NP decide to make presense in a zone, all have to conform to their rules, like it or not. If you dont like other groups zerging then go find a zone where there are no "zergs", why should the onus (as suggested by the comments) be for the zerg to go find another zone.

Originally posted by Xanatea
Here, Why are you running 2FG in ODINS at fucking 3pm if you also enjoy a fight on even footing
I said I prefere to, and I RvR at all times and the most fun I have is on an even fight basis, but I am not going to insult, be rude to or moan if others want a peice of the action, because even if they are fresh out of PvE I respect them as individuals who also want to have some fun.

And Xanatea, you just tipify the attitude I am talking about, resorting to insults when arguing your point, and you get jack all respect from me as a result. Although I am sure you will take great pleasure in pointing out how you wont loose any sleep not getting respect from a n00b such as I. Likewise.

Basically, if it gets too busy for you, don't cry about it just move on. That's what most people do.
 
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Forau

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Moving in 2FG i Odin's at 3 o'clock when there were only midRR hib and alb FGs out makes me sick and be sure I will tell people how I feel. This had nothing to do with "leeching" our RPs as I don't care that much for them anymore, what it did have something to do with was that we were in FG with 2 shieldtanks and a shadowblade and only 2 healers which means we can't take on much more than FGs. And you know what happens when you run around in 2 FGs and "pwn" the hibs and feel all 1337? They bring another FG as well, and when people like you zerg and the enemy fights fire with fire like they usually do, people like me (not my guild, leave them out of this), who enjoy FG vs FG rvr, get stuck in the middle. 2FG in Odin's on a sunday afternoon is just plain wrong, I was there for little over an hour and there was nothing there you needed 2 FG for unless you were raiding glacier giant in which case, I'm sorry for what I said.
 
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Divinia

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Re: Re: Re: To the "elite" people in NP

Originally posted by old.anubis
some peeps like coca cola some like beer
some like potatoes some like beef
some like to play daoc some like to play football
some like to move in 1 fg others like to move in 10 fgs

it's not your business where, when and how other people rvr
you like to move in 1fg? go on
but dont teach every1 else how to do it, ok?

again, it's not your business

Some ppl are good at stuff some ppl sucks at the very same stuff
Some ppl dont got a clue about what they are doing some ppl knew it so well they could do it in their sleep
Some ppl have reasonable toughts some ppl dont know anything about anything.

It is a game where you have to follow the rules and showing good manners towards people in your realm. Why not follow an un-written rule and dont destroy for people in other realms.
 
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Qte Eth

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some ppl are good some ppl want to feel they are good
 
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Gorb

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Originally posted by Forau
And you know what happens when you run around in 2 FGs and "pwn" the hibs and feel all 1337? They bring another FG as well, and when people like you zerg and the enemy fights fire with fire like they usually do, people like me (not my guild, leave them out of this), who enjoy FG vs FG rvr, get stuck in the middle. 2FG in Odin's on a sunday afternoon is just plain wrong, I was there for little over an hour and there was nothing there you needed 2 FG for unless you were raiding glacier giant in which case, I'm sorry for what I said.
It doesn't matter if they are run over by 2fgs of random peeps or a fg of Nolby, either way the will try to get even and bring more peeps since they know that a FG of high RR Nolbys is just as dangerous as 2 fgs of random peeps.
 
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Divinia

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Originally posted by Qte Eth
some ppl are good some ppl want to feel they are good

yup, and i suck (but dont tell anyone plz)
 
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kiranian-

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Just on a side note we had heard reports of 3FG of hibs running around together hence why we was running around in 2FG.

When we got to AMG which is where they was reported to be they was not there.

I msg Fatbelly and he had told me that he had not run in to them so we headed to HMG to see if they was there which they was not , Then Fatbelly msg me to tell me that Bled which is nolby Pride fort was under attack by hibs and as we had not ran in to the 3FG of hibs we assumed that they was on Bled doors so we ran there to help defend Fatbelly also could not confirm the numbers on Bled when we got there NP was already there and infact it was not 3FG But STILL the hibs was attacking Bled so we ran in to kill them as it is a Midguad Fort is a Realm Fort.

Then we got the remarks of Zerg etc well this is not a unheard thing from NP to come out of something like this as they do run around in 1FG in emain but they are ALL High Realm Ranks.

When they was not ALL High Realm Ranks they did not use to run around in 1FG they use to run around in 2FG but since they are all mostly RR7+ they do and respect for them to do that but what gets me is what use to be acceptable for them is now outlawed to the rest of the realm if they do it in the eyes of nolby pride.

If you want to make friends in the realm you play then i suggest you start to show a bit of respect to the others that acutally play for the same goals , And yes some might not want to RvR all the time and might enjoy the side of lvling chars up and crafting and making events but these are ppl that play the game for enjoyment but it seems to me that every word that comes out of some of the nolby ppl are mostly insults if you got this uptight about such things then you should go and play another game as a big percentage of the realm is getting tired of the insults.


These are my views so flame me if you like it is what i have expected from you.


Nolby Pride does have nice ppl in the guild but it is a shame that the loud mouth ones spoil the rep for the rest.


Regards Ladonna
 
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