to qui or not to qui...

[hrun]

that is the question.

Did u lw users cap qui on your sc armor? What do u think is best?

 

[Garnet]

Depends how you want to fight...

Do you want slow but hard hitting damage? (with no quickness)

OR

Do you want faster hits but lower damage? (with capped quickness)

 

[Garnet]

Also quickness affects parry rate i think

 

[herjulf]

Correct Garnet.

Qui affects parry + evade.

And it is also a false assumption that u will hit for less, the explosive damage dealt will not be as high per hit.

However the Style added dmg remains the same the base dmg decrease, so after a few hits u will have made greater damage.

Same effect as with melee haste buff u will experience it as u dont hit as much damage/hit however u will do more damage over time.

Parry in RvR is still a joke imo, even with 2-h and capped parry +rr.

so.. if u like to more or less ONESHOT a caster with massive large weaponry or spear damage, u shouldnt go for qui.
But if it is over time increase in damage go for qui.

Alteast this is how i have learnt to know qui.

 

[hrun]

ty for the replies.. didnt know about the evade/parry effect.. good to know.

 

[slaraigh]

It's not like it's hard to cap everything on a hero SC template anyways...I even got like 3int (cause of some item) hehe...

 

[stroopwafel]

more dmg over time, but it's not like there is much time in rvr


(i always thought parry was just dex)

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by Garnet
Also quickness affects parry rate i think

Dex does.

In a later patch qui becomes more useful.... it doesn't lower damage as much as it does now, so yes cap it.

 

[Garnet]

Originally posted by old.mattshanes
Dex does.

In a later patch qui becomes more useful.... it doesn't lower damage as much as it does now, so yes cap it.

Parry is effect by evade and quickness

 

[old.mattshanes]

Originally posted by Garnet
Parry is effect by evade and quickness

Nope

Parry is dex.

Evade is dex and qui.

http://www.camelotherald.com/characters/attributes.php

 

[tris-]

shanes is right, dex also effects weapon skill (even if weapon is 100% str) and with more dex u seem to crit more, although grab bag suggests this is false.

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

qui does not affect parry rate only dex.

dex does not affect weponskill with a str based weapon or crit rate.

Ive played rr4->rr5L7 with capped quick, and now use no quick. If your group knows how to assist and your not soloing etc, then forget quick.

 

[tris-]

Originally posted by boni_ofdavoid
qui does not affect parry rate only dex.

dex does not affect weponskill with a str based weapon or crit rate.

Ive played rr4->rr5L7 with capped quick, and now use no quick. If your group knows how to assist and your not soloing etc, then forget quick.

dex effects WS. if u dont believe me try it, if u still dont believe me then err i played polearms for 2 yrs, full str based weapon. when i increased str i gained WS, when i capped the skills i gained weapon skill, when i increased dex i gained WS. worked for me, thats all i care about

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

Originally posted by tris-
dex effects WS. if u dont believe me try it, if u still dont believe me then err i played polearms for 2 yrs, full str based weapon. when i increased str i gained WS, when i capped the skills i gained weapon skill, when i increased dex i gained WS. worked for me, thats all i care about

question was about LW users in a hib forum. Dont think hibs have polearms. If dex affects it thats strange, and means its not a pure str weapon.

Dex affects weapon skill in hib for things like Bows, and pierce users, it doesnt have any effect on strenght based weapons (LW,spear,sword,blunt etc).

 

[old.Lethul]

Originally posted by hrun
that is the question.

Did u lw users cap qui on your sc armor? What do u think is best?

qui qui qui qui qui qui qui

 

[tris-]

Originally posted by boni_ofdavoid
question was about LW users in a hib forum. Dont think hibs have polearms. If dex affects it thats strange, and means its not a pure str weapon.

Dex affects weapon skill in hib for things like Bows, and pierce users, it doesnt have any effect on strenght based weapons (LW,spear,sword,blunt etc).

well im just saying pole is full str based, also had 1h crush spec which got more WS from dex.

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

Originally posted by tris-
well im just saying pole is full str based, also had 1h crush spec which got more WS from dex.

If dex affects your weaponskill when using a weapon then its not full str based.

BY DEFENITION.

 

[barevoose]

ive got a blunt/shield hero and im about 80% sure more dex gave me more ws and (and parry/evade but we all agreed on dis now)

 

[shanks]

If your on a MA train id go with no qui. Otherwise it would probably be better to be abit more adaptable (qui sced).

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

Originally posted by barevoose
ive got a blunt/shield hero and im about 80% sure more dex gave me more ws and (and parry/evade but we all agreed on dis now)

listen to the 20%, that bits right.

Or go buff yourself and look at the figures.

 

[tris-]

Originally posted by boni_ofdavoid
If dex affects your weaponskill when using a weapon then its not full str based.

BY DEFENITION.

well that dont mean shit when ive seen it with my own eyes

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

Originally posted by tris-
dex also effects weapon skill (even if weapon is 100% str)

I have a 50 buffbot here, and a hero on the other account. I can test them all out and see the results with my own eyes and tell you preciesely what the effect on weaponskill is with or without strenght or dex.

so ill ask one more time,

Tell me just one 100% str based weapon in Hibernia this is true of.

 

[tris-]

Originally posted by boni_ofdavoid

Tell me just one 100% str based weapon in Hibernia this is true of.

i dont know i never claimed it worked in hib, i just said it worked for me.

 

[necrofill]

well to all of u there say poles is 100% str u wrong im sorry but if u use thrust pole, 50% of ws is affected by dex, but ofc slash and crush pole shouldnt be affected by dex. Same on hib spear is a thrust weapon= 50% dex based, but then again LW hammers and sword should ofc not be affected by dex only str.
But this dont count for staves they r 100% dex based promise i got a friar and have tried it out me self

 

[Brunore]

Capping charisma on my BD had given me faster cast teims!!!1

 

[rg-zorena]

ppl without qui = gimps

 

[iantheace]

LOL u guys

All albions 2handed weapons are 100% sr, theres NO arguement here so dont even try to go into it.

 

[Shike]

Re: LOL u guys

Originally posted by iantheace
All albions 2handed weapons are 100% sr, theres NO arguement here so dont even try to go into it.

wrong I think, 2h thrust is 75% str and 25% dex or something.

all poles are 100% str though.

 

[fyric]

put 28 quickness in both your 1hand and your shield, and no quick with spear/lw imho

 

[boni_ofdavoid]

Originally posted by necrofill
well to all of u there say poles is 100% str u wrong im sorry but if u use thrust pole, 50% of ws is affected by dex, but ofc slash and crush pole shouldnt be affected by dex. Same on hib spear is a thrust weapon= 50% dex based, but then again LW hammers and sword should ofc not be affected by dex only str.
But this dont count for staves they r 100% dex based promise i got a friar and have tried it out me self

You are wrong on spear. There are two independant lines in hib:-
1h thrust (50/50 dex str)
celtic spear (100%str).