To ppl of midguad

[kiranian-]

I saw a healer soloing today and i asked her why she was , She told me that she could not get a group for love or money now i find this very dishearting as every group needs a healer so i beg you please don't let our healers solo and always try to group for fast lvling folks and if the healer is not a great healer at a low level then at least get the chance to understand how to play the char as it is not as easy as you think so please give time to the new healers guys as we always could use healers on the battlefield.

 

[mele-nko]

strong!

 

[old.anubis]

it can be funny but it's really difficult to find groups for healer in 30-40 range

 

[Garnet]

poor healer

Healers cant solo much unless they have speced some in aug. Please group them

 

[Gekul]

This is a topic I never thought I'd see

 

[Hatt]

 

[chosen]

i agree

 

[wiiwii]

i must say that it's mostlu true. got a lvl 33mend/pac healer. you really need too msg ppl all over too get grps

When ppl have buffbots (not hating on buffbots like them alot) they dont need healers in grps as much (lvling around 33), get a frigg kill mob bot heals after fight.

well 10 more lvls then ill go park in lair ohh joy or maybe ding the fecker in DF on dia raids. more fun =)

 

[Xandax]

the leveling of healers is atm tricky untill level 42 (I hope that lair groups still need healers).

As I've writen in another thread on BW - I myself also have difficulties in finding groups with my healer, and it is something I didn't think I would have experienced.

Luckily I've been able to find some nice people last couple of days that didn't mind a "lowbe" healing healer in group in RvR, so at least I've gotten a bit of RP instead

 

[old.Sko]

personally cba with lair. Once messaged for spot, was like 3rd in line to g2, no responce back for like 8 hours, then had to log.

 

[Archeon]

Originally posted by Garnet
poor healer

Healers cant solo much unless they have speced some in aug. Please group them

And those that spec in aug are gimped anyway so nobody wants them anyway

 

[Driwen]

It is kinda weird, because I hear from people that they cant find healers and now that healers cant find people? Problem for healer is that as most healers are specced is that they are really group friendly and bad solo'ers. Think all other characters can just solo, if needed. So if they dont find a group, they just solo.
And if healer doesnt find a group that play time is kinda wasted as you cant solo. But I doubt ppl let healers in the cold, but at times you already got a healer or you are playing with some friends/guild.

 

[Nattrún]

I was the healer Ladonna met.

Driwen, healers do indeed get left out in the cold. From level 1 to level 34, now, I think I've gotten a sum total of 8 or 9 levels from grouping, and that was almost all because higher-level friends of mine let me tag along and help out with healing while they were hunting for drops and money.

It's mostly because of buffbots, too -- I can't count how many times I've been turned down for a group because people would rather 'solo' with an AFK shaman hanging on their tail. It's starting to get to me.

 

[Whoodoo_RD]

Its laim to me that ppl dont group as much as they should. I have a 33 huntress who can out tank and outshoot most, but yet shes been done almost entirely solo becuse i dont wanna spend 20 minutes begging for a group.

Ppl are also getting way too fussy about choosing ppl for groups, level type, what the hell does it matter, just exp ffs and stop being so over dramatic about "MUST HAF SM MUST HAFF BUFFBOT MUST HAF *****" get over it and just invite ppl eh, its all exp and the more high level ppl we got, the better the realm does.

Too many selfish assholes around IMO.

 

[-fonS-]

omg plz be kidding, ever accured to u maybe the person gave up after msging 5 ppl ? or maybe it was just a bad time, and by that i mean, maybe it was so unlucky that noone at that time near her/he's lvl was lvling or so few lvled at that lvl at the point that the healers was in overflow ? if u wanna lvl ur healer get either off ur ass and msg everyone remotly near ur lvl, go to known spots and ask etc, or have an alt to lvl when u cant find a group, and NO im not tlaking out of my ass, i lvled a healer to 50 and pure pac so no soloing possibility and i cant see why it calls for a bw post...
2c

 

[Nattrún]

Originally posted by -fonS-
omg plz be kidding, ever accured to u maybe the person gave up after msging 5 ppl ? or maybe it was just a bad time, and by that i mean, maybe it was so unlucky that noone at that time near her/he's lvl was lvling or so few lvled at that lvl at the point that the healers was in overflow ? if u wanna lvl ur healer get either off ur ass and msg everyone remotly near ur lvl, go to known spots and ask etc, or have an alt to lvl when u cant find a group, and NO im not tlaking out of my ass, i lvled a healer to 50 and pure pac so no soloing possibility and i cant see why it calls for a bw post...
2c

Let me correct you: yes, fonS, you -are- talking out of your arse. Did you even read my reply? I -am- the person in question, and I -didn't- give up after asking five people.

This is something that's been going on for a long while -- a trend, if you will. When you don't know people who're willing to powerlevel you, nowadays, it's damnably difficult to find groups at all as a healer.

Please try to read what's been said before rushing in with the standard BW 'omg u r lame' thing.

 

[-fonS-]

then start groups ? there is allways a solution, go to whatever crowded city u know or do a /who skald 30 38 or likewise for other classes and msg ppl if they wanna start a group ? as i said, if u cant find group either fight for it or make an alt and lvl that for 1hour then try again, i know how it is to lvl a healer and i know they r more or less fucked without a group, just cant see the point to go on bw and tell midgard to take healers in groups, i think they allready know tbh...
oohh and btw, try and notice what i wrote, i said MAYBE like 200 times since i cant be sure if u did msg 5 and give up or not, so flamming me (yea u did) is kindda unasked for

 

[Nattrún]

Obviously they don't know, since I'm not the only healer out there who's having a beastly amount of trouble finding groups. I've spoken to several other lowbie healers ingame, and they all agree that it's getting harder and harder to find anyone willing to group with one.

And yes, you said 'maybe', but saying 'omg plz be kidding, ever accured to u maybe the person gave up after msging 5 ppl ?' certainly sounds like a put-down to me.

Especially -after- I said:

From level 1 to level 34, now, I think I've gotten a sum total of 8 or 9 levels from grouping, and that was almost all because higher-level friends of mine let me tag along and help out with healing while they were hunting for drops and money.

And:

I can't count how many times I've been turned down for a group because people would rather 'solo' with an AFK shaman hanging on their tail.

See why it can be seen as a put-down?

 

[-fonS-]

every class has its probs at some point imo, when u get 39 (or whenever those h lists start nowdays) ur lvling will be the easiest of all, maybe only overshadowed by supp runies, there must be darkness for there to be light.
Its not a dance on roses to lvl, or well yea it is imo, (not saying its tralalla ding 50, i would just love it to be 3 ~ 4 times as hard to get 50 so its actually worth something) u have to fight for ur lvls even though u picked the most group friendly char in midgard

 

[Nattrún]

Originally posted by -fonS-
...the most group friendly char in midgard

Precisely. Which is what makes the fact that it's very hard to get groups with one, all the more aggravating.

 

[-fonS-]

nevermind .. pointless to argue about it .. will be final reply
as i said before, if its hard to get groups then fight for it, start a group insted of joining 1, or solo (as u did) or find other solutions, insted of moaning how hard it is to lvl, since at listlvl ull get the last lvl handed to u more or less, and yes i see it that way, its not like its a challenge to gain lvl 50 when u first ding listlvls with a supportclass ....
byebye

 

[Nattrún]

Okay.

Let me just say this one more time.

Healers are having trouble getting groups because everyone is 'soloing' with buffbots.

This means that yes, we've also tried asking -solo- people if they want to make a group. Many, many times. And the response is very rarely positive.

Was that clear enough? Do I need to restate it in more different ways? 'Getting a group' does in fact include 'starting a group'.

 

[Olgark]

Originally posted by kiranian-
I saw a healer soloing today and i asked her why she was , She told me that she could not get a group for love or money now i find this very dishearting as every group needs a healer so i beg you please don't let our healers solo and always try to group for fast lvling folks and if the healer is not a great healer at a low level then at least get the chance to understand how to play the char as it is not as easy as you think so please give time to the new healers guys as we always could use healers on the battlefield.

sorry but it here it goes .
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. man that was funny. Try playing a hunter or Shadowblade to 50 and you will know what pain is.
Hunter; " got room for one more?"
Group;" no we keeping the 2 spaces spare we ok as we are."
Hunter;"ok"
5 minutes latter.
Hunter;" hey thought you did not need any more people, now you got a full group."
Group;" yeh we need a full group but we dont want a hunter in it."

After 50 levels of this it kind of makes you go bitter by the time you reach 50. So do I feel for the groupless healer?
No such chance.

 

[kiranian-]

I'm sorry that Hunters and SB's have a hard time actually getting groups this has been a problem since forever but i have never stopped a Hunter or SB joining my group but please do not forget that Hunters and SB's get styles to attack with and Healers don't which is why it is sad to see a Healer solo as i have problems taking a blue con mob and i would hate to think how long it would take to solo a lvl by killing only blue cons.

Regards

 

[Puppetmistress]

I got a healer at Pry/Mid (lvl 23 I think) and I was very dissapointed with him tbh.

At lvl 23 I went to Vendo Caverns (I am unfamilair with Midgard and a /who vendo showed up something in my level-range) and happily went down there.

So I ask around to get a group: How are you specced is the question. So I happily reply I just got my 2nd PS and rest mending, to be very groupfriendly. Sorry, no interest, but can you give POT to our casters?

So, good guy I am I start giving POT and tell them when I need the conc for my group I will PM one to tell em POT goes down.

2nd group: Need a mend/pac healer? Nah, we're doing ok, but can you give POT ?

etc..etc..

 

[Driwen]

I only know that all the solo'ing hunters/SB's out there would prolly love to have a healer that is their lvl or around theirs. Atleast i never minded grouping with one. I think most ppl are having problem finding groups atm. Might be caused, cause ppl are exploring SI (still) or because our frontier gets attacked more with 5 relics. But if healer is having trouble finding a group, it isnt cause of the buffbots. Because I wont believe there are so many buffbots that everyone person from 1-34 got one. Other thing is that ppl 1-34 would rather solo than go to the problems of grouping up.
Btw most groups that are already running, got their healers taken care off. Its the group that is starting up that needs healers .
But kiranian, you were in the same boat. You had this problem too or got any tips then for young healers? Because I cant believe that suddenly midgard has changed. Unless its for SI or relics.

 

[Xandax]

Re: Re: To ppl of midguad

Originally posted by Olgark
sorry but it here it goes .
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. man that was funny. Try playing a hunter or Shadowblade to 50 and you will know what pain is.
Hunter; " got room for one more?"
Group;" no we keeping the 2 spaces spare we ok as we are."
Hunter;"ok"
5 minutes latter.
Hunter;" hey thought you did not need any more people, now you got a full group."
Group;" yeh we need a full group but we dont want a hunter in it."

After 50 levels of this it kind of makes you go bitter by the time you reach 50. So do I feel for the groupless healer?
No such chance.

LOL

I was aware when I made my SB that I wouldn't get grouped much - but hearing people cry for healers in RvR and then not grouping them in PvE because they suddenly aren't needed as much is well.... wierd.

@Driwen - good thing you don't belive it is due to buffbots, I'm sure it isn't 100% - but go down into Spindelhalla, Varulvhamn, Darkness Falls and see how many peolpe run around hitting stuff with a shammy close behind them and you will see that this is certainly part of the problem

 

[redknapp]

Strange,

Buffbots dont stop me getting groups, and i'm a Shaman??? I have never yet had the response 'sorry, but we have a bot'.

I just hit 50, and did maybe 75% of that in groups. What I would suggest is that if you want to play a support class, you make sure that folk you normally play around have a need for another healer. Group up with an SM, and level together perhaps.

My opinion, Midgard needs less support and more casters, but the casters rip through 1-50 so fast that you need to grab one quick as they steam by.

One other option: offer your services as a PoM bot to a Supp/Dark BD. They go through mana like nobodies business, and I am sure you could get duet with a BD maybe 5 levels higher than you.

 

[Driwen]

Re: Re: Re: To ppl of midguad

Originally posted by Xandax
@Driwen - good thing you don't belive it is due to buffbots, I'm sure it isn't 100% - but go down into Spindelhalla, Varulvhamn, Darkness Falls and see how many peolpe run around hitting stuff with a shammy close behind them and you will see that this is certainly part of the problem

yeah thats probably true , but are buff bots now getting more and more or have they always been there? My brother lvl'ed a healer without much fuss, well the usual probs at lair. But other than that no. He dinged 50 2 months ago, i think.
I think there are buffbots out there, but not enough to create a serious problem.

 

[Archeon]

Its easy to spot a buffbot these days, they've usually got it in there somewhere. God people used to atleast give buffbots half-decent names so you wern't quite sure if it was a player or a buffbot but now you've got

'Buffa'
'Buff'
'Buffin'
'<Player Name>s Buffbot'

Not that i care a great deal about buffbots, i do very little if any serious RvR solo (just the odd chance encounter from time to time... encounter? maybe i should say brutal raping ) so i couldn't really care much about that sort of thing.

I just wish people could be a little more discreate about it, besides anyone that things a buffbot can even come close to being half as effective as a player playing the same class (i know its usually shammys but i've seen one or two healer bots).


I know they say the strongest combo in mid is

Zerka/shammy, thats a lie the strongest combo in mid is Zerka/Active shammy


Let the little muppets keep their buffbots, these people solo too much and are (generally speaking) not as.. how can i put this... socially apt as people that group a lot. And lets be honest, a player that has lvled using a buffbot might level faster than sombody that relys on groups but they'l be sorely lacking in actual group experience when they need it.

A classic example, i was in FS a long time ago we managed to engage in some 1fgV1fg activity with some albi's (well, once we got over the initial shock of seeing 1fg of albis ) here i was legging it all over with 2 dudes trying to ram a pole up my ass in obvious trouble, our tanks after their healers then theres this one little moron that decided he was going to have his own private little duel in the middle of this, actually it was kind of comical if you could picture it. I'm running arround with 2 tanks on me, the albi's cleric was running arround with 2 tanks on him trying to slam his ass, the runie was sitting there complaining about my PoI and refusing to nuke and in the middle of all this is some little gimpy warrior trying to take down a friar.

Well i found it funny, anyway i'm going to sleep now. i think i need it because i'm not really relating to the thread