To Mythic and GOA

[Aussie-]

especially for you elf:

:moon:

 

[lofff]

suits u better than the hat

:kissit:

 

[brommix]

why dont the hibs who feel they are not overpowered just go and come around Copenhagen and visit me...CAUSE ILL FUCKING OVERPOWER MY FIST INTO YOUR HYPOCRITIC LYING PATHETIC TEETH..enough said. There are allways a difference between skilled players who know to use advantages that classes realms give you and those who by chance/luck get in a position where they can use their advantages and the issue around is that 1fg albs who need to kill 1fg hibs need to play better to beat them...THATS IT, now stfu before those of you thatfeel to comment on it, totally looses which respect i got left for hib players.

 

[.Raewyn]

Originally posted by HugHug
Hibs just tend to run around in more 'skilled' groups.

 

[old.Saborion]

lofff, you seriously think that GP isn`t a bit overpowered? I read somewhere on some boards not long ago about back in the old days (before I started playing). Albs had better ae mez due to the sorcs being able to use qc ae mez and thus cast the mez faster than hibs/mids. Mythics solution was to give hibs & mids insta ae mez. Well, sure, all classes from all realms shouldn`t be similar, then it wouldn`t matter that much which realm you picked. But, some crucial things SHOULD be available to all realms. Insta ae mez is one imo. Group purge? Well, in my opinion no realm should have it. Sort of reduce the skill?/fun in emain. But if Mythic still insists on the RA being there, even it out. Sure, all realms have some nice RAs and stuff, but being able to get a whole group out of a mez/stun/root is just plain wicked. =)

How to best beat 2fg hibs with 2+ druids?
Sure, it`s doable, but very hard. But it`s in the game, so we just have to accept it. =)
IF Mythic do anything about it, I`m very likely to have quit the game once again before that patch reaches EU servers. =)

 

[)nick(]

If you can't beat em, join em!

 

[Jiggs]

lol Loff do you actually think that the people who play albion are like that different players in terms of ablity to those that play hibernia/midgard????

/awaits smartarse comeback

 

[Pempulla]

Originally posted by old.Saborion
Albs had better ae mez due to the sorcs being able to use qc ae mez and thus cast the mez faster than hibs/mids. Mythics solution was to give hibs & mids insta ae mez. Well, sure, all classes from all realms shouldn`t be similar, then it wouldn`t matter that much which realm you picked. But, some crucial things SHOULD be available to all realms. Insta ae mez is one imo. Group purge? Well, in my opinion no realm should have it. Sort of reduce the skill?/fun in emain. But if Mythic still insists on the RA being there, even it out. Sure, all realms have some nice RAs and stuff, but being able to get a whole group out of a mez/stun/root is just plain wicked. =)

A few whines right back at you:

Quick cast mezz can be cast far more often than once in 10 minutes. Also, of course, people tend to forget that not all bards have the aoe insta at all, and most only the smaller area one (which lasts on those affected usually for the duration of a normal slam stun, if that....). Of course, albs tend to think that when they get mezzed, if was 'Oh, my God, Insta Mezz again.', which isn't true.

GP is still only usable once in 30 minutes. I bet around 90% of the times when albs get beaten by hibs they blame 'Oh,my God, GP again.', which simply isn't true. When the person targeted for aoe mezz resists the mezz (which does happen reasonably often too), NOONE gets mezzed in the area. But, of course, if you please, you can always blame this on the 'GP', too.

 

[Hatt]

Outlaw, dead again? :spin:

 

[old.Tzeentch]

Originally posted by brommix
why dont the hibs who feel they are not overpowered just go and come around Copenhagen and visit me...CAUSE ILL FUCKING OVERPOWER MY FIST INTO YOUR HYPOCRITIC LYING PATHETIC TEETH..enough said. There are allways a difference between skilled players who know to use advantages that classes realms give you and those who by chance/luck get in a position where they can use their advantages and the issue around is that 1fg albs who need to kill 1fg hibs need to play better to beat them...THATS IT, now stfu before those of you thatfeel to comment on it, totally looses which respect i got left for hib players.

i'll just use FA2 irl

 

[Trinilim]

You love the :hat: smiley don't you aussie

GP and insta aoe mez/stun should be removed from game. Period.

 

[lofff]

k, for all the morons who just agrooed and posted sum shit:

Try and read my earlier posts again, more slowly, stick to the point on em and stop making fiction or silly conclussions...

- Its about group purge and mezz, CC in rvr.

- No1 is attacking u RL brommix, altho surely would b nice to discuss further coments rl with yah and yer fist.
- Jiggs i still wonder where in my earlier posts u find that conclussion, guess uve been dreaming lately, but, nevertheless ur stupidity is welcome too.
- Saborion, u actually _NEED_ to play with that RA, use it in rvr and see its powerness, then u will agree that it is NOT so powerfull. I did _NOT_ said its not good, its a v.good RA (while champ specific RA is the crappiest ;p) But ppl from other realms do _overrate_ it, it is _NOT_ an insta-win-button...


Really... u just dont wanna get the point... its true that its v.hepfull on sum situations but every single one of those situations can b solved with selfpurges and unmezzing, while u got other v.good RAs like SoS and BoF which serve a preety different and unique service.
For the v.silly ones, u can have a car with auto gearing (group purge) it prolly helps... but f u dont the car still works with manual one, eh? Now u can have turbo, giving u an advantage over the one lacking it :&



:bore:






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Guess u didnt understand it yet :wall:

 

[Elixir]

You hibs have to thank us thanes for one thing...

We were the inspiration for group purge! except we take it a little further with, ZERG PURGE!!!!.

Us thanes may be a little useful, but we are damn good at breaking mezzes (hey we all get ridiculed for it)

So be grateful you hibs now have it in a spell, since thanes dont rvr much anymore or have learned to control their emotional outbreaks of needing-to-break-mezz-ness.

Although, back to the point, i do myself think group purge is overpowered.

Healer = perfect restoration, just about the only useful mid grp RA, rezzing one person every 30 mins with full end, pow, hp, and no rez illness.

Druid (i think) = Group purge, purging the whole group, making them immune to mezz/stun after that for some amount of time (30 secs?)

Cleric= bof, halfing damage done to the grp for 30 seconds.

Now tell me which one you would rather have....

Most answers will be group purge i think

 

[K0nah]

well lets not forget hib insta and cast mezz appear to be on seperate immunity timers, so even if alb did have GP we'd just get remezzed... an option alb doesnt have cos.. oh wait we dont get insta mezz.. .

skill and tactics, superiour teamwork, u know sometimes i even think u hibs believe that shit.

time to wake up :sleeping:

 

[lofff]

Re: You hibs have to thank us thanes for one thing...

Originally posted by _-Laand-_

Druid (i think) = Group purge, purging the whole group, making them immune to mezz/stun after that for some amount of time (30 secs?)

But that is wrong?

U know how do single purge works?

k, now imagine ur single purge has exactly same effect but in all ur grp at the moment u press it. Go rvr and "roleplay" ur single purge is a group purge, and try to find the right ocassion to use it...

woot?

theres no 30sec shit?

woot?

it is _NOT_ 30sec CC invulnerability for ur whole grp?

woot?

its just a 2ndary purge which works in 3-4 ppl if lucky, to do exactly the same as normal purge and then u can get ur ass CCed again? (purge mezz get rooted/stunned etc..)




Next time make sum research too, k?

edit: oh and yes, i thank a lot all the thanes outthere for the good times u gave me;>

 

[old.Thanatlos]

For about the 20th time, group purge only makes you immune for the effects you have on you at the time.

So when it's used only the people who were mezzed at the time are immune to mez, the ones who were stunned are immune to stun and the people who were rooted are immune to root.

no, it's not total immunity for the entire group

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by K0nah
well lets not forget hib insta and cast mezz appear to be on seperate immunity timers, so even if alb did have GP we'd just get remezzed... an option alb doesnt have cos.. oh wait we dont get insta mezz.. .

skill and tactics, superiour teamwork, u know sometimes i even think u hibs believe that shit.

time to wake up :sleeping:

there are not different timers? thats bollocks? maybe? It is just instamezz is so shit, and lasts so fecking short that u can b remezzed soon? (u do know the invul timer to a CC when its pulled off is exactly the same as its duration.. so 10sec instamezz, 10sec invul, u can b remezzed 10sec after.)

 

[-optical-]

Sorry, but if albs were given insta mez i would consider that complete bullshit, that would mean alb gets qc mez and insta mez on the same class, and ofc you already have the minstrel aoe mez that can be cast from stealth and theurg aoe mez.
Albs need to stop whining and use their classes properly

 

[lofff]

Originally posted by old.Thanatlos
For about the 20th time, group purge only makes you immune for the effects you have on you at the time.

So when it's used only the people who were mezzed at the time are immune to mez, the ones who were stunned are immune to stun and the people who were rooted are immune to root.

no, it's not total immunity for the entire group

gg..

Same as selfpurge?

Same as a pulled off mezz?

Same as every effect? IT IS NOT GROUP PURGE, its a patch ages ago to make those effects NOT chaineable...

oh dear..

 

[lofff]

arf omg whats happening today, now optical talks sense? Oo

kk... am off, laters

 

[Aussie-]

yes optical is so right

let albs mez with the ~30 sec theur mez or 5 sec castime AE mez of minstrel with for ~30sec.
let's pretend albs and hibs mez land, i'm sure albs make a very good chance to win the battle!

:hat:

 

[Kallio]

Think this

Well... Since GP isn´t THAT good think it this way...

How many times GP has made the difference?

You say that not very often...

How many times perfect ress has made the difference?

Err.... *Cough* *Cough*

Seeing my point?

Easy to blame it but I remember the one time when we got LA a bit by surprise... AE mezz landed... then Whops! all were free!
(no I didn´t use mjöllnir)

Seeing my point?

 

[Trinilim]

Originally posted by -optical-
Sorry, but if albs were given insta mez i would consider that complete bullshit, that would mean alb gets qc mez and insta mez on the same class, and ofc you already have the minstrel aoe mez that can be cast from stealth and theurg aoe mez.
Albs need to stop whining and use their classes properly

yet another person using the 'mez from stealth' theory. hmm. Don't think you've ever tried it before bud . 5 Second cast time, you destealth when you cast, you move slow when stealthed (meanwhile you're group is being pounded). Aye, I can see how great the minstrel aoe mez is

 

[Zill]

Group Purge does makes a significant difference and gives an unfair advantage during combat, no question. And even more so when you have 4 Druids at your disposal as Llaw Arian have. So even in the scenario that Thanatlos suggests where their members are re-mezzed/rooted/stuned they have the back up to cast GP again. As well as taking into consideration the ones that have self purge. In theory that gives a total of 5 times for them to purge when they're at full strength.

I don't blame them for picking up Mythic's incompetence by implementing this stupid realm ability, and apologises for singleling them out, but you only need to look how many realm points LA earn in a week to see what difference GP makes.

 

[old.Saborion]

Not that GP is the only thing that makes them get the most rp/week. They roam emain 24/7, got some of the best? in their guild and so on. But naturally, GP makes a difference. =)

 

[hotrat]

First thing I think its a pretty sad idea to make an RA that can only be used to remove effects cast on you by other players. Imo it removes some skill from the game in that if you or your group gets mezzed you can just press a button and your ok. A well placed mezz, as painful as it is on the receiving end, should always yield an advantage in a fight. Maybe im just annoyed about the number of times i destealthed to fight 2 people, mezzed one started fighting the other then found myself against 2 again
Also minstrel ae mezz is useless, the radius (250) cast time (5 secs) and duration (30 sec) are pathetic, even from stealth by the time its cast your targets have split and at most you mezz 3 people. Compare that to the flute mezz; usually i can mezz 3 people before i get interupted and with a 1 min duration (with a nice flute) in most situations it is superior than the ae mezz. Its also the only spell in the game you can cast on enemy players with no power and no end
Theurg mezz also has poor duration (27 sec - nobody goes for 49 air spec) and even worse has only 1250 range, why? I have no idea, given that eldritch light spec has 1500 range. Maybe its to make air more balanced compared to ice spec, pets and nukes in air spec are generally better than ice.
GP isn't the main problem for albs (although it does rock, why do you think i made a druid on pvp ), imo its the classic too many essential skills spread over too many different classes.

 

[optical-]

hib has gp, alb has bof.
Midgard lacks an uber group ra, give gp.

 

[kameh]

would help if other mids would get purge to behind with

 

[kirennia]

Originally posted by optical-
hib has gp, alb has bof.
Midgard lacks an uber group ra, give gp.

rephrase that for you...

These r 4 main hib beefs:

Hib has gp, unquestionably great
Hib has insta mezz, unquestionably great
Hib has the BoF equivalent except for magic
(unfortunately cant find the screenie that shows wuren with over 90% magic resists with this on) :help:
Hib has extremely powerful pbaoe AND bugged ace pets in same class :scared:

Main Alb beefs:

BoF which also is on a 30 minute timer :touch:
SoS which despite what people think, lets you run around for 30 seconds BUT if you are mezzed b4 it is cast, you cannot enter combat of any kind including casting spells with it on and once the SoS drops, you become mezzed again, the timer freezes

Main Mid beef:

AoE insta stun (11 second) which not too many people have
<dont know more cause dont know mid abilities too well>


Isn't it obvious which realm has the best options? After discovering even the Hib dragon is uber I found out THEY EVEN HAVE BETTER HORSE ROUTES THEN ALB AND MID!!!!!!!! :eek2:
I mean come on, enough it enough, they gonna be given better siege equipment next too?

edit:I just re-read your post and noticed you said lacks GRP RA's, I'm wrong in that respect but the post is still valid

 

[belth]

Originally posted by optical-
hib has gp, alb has bof.
Midgard lacks an uber group ra, give gp.

Get the skald RA, it's über enough for you.