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Originally posted by Arnor2
Heres proof:
what proof?
that a 1h slash weapon hits for 80 dmg on chain
i'm quite sure a spearo will hit for ~200 with bof up
what proof?
that a 1h slash weapon hits for 80 dmg on chain
i'm quite sure a spearo will hit for ~200 with bof up
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Gahldir
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Your memorie is short, Aussie. lots of albs whined before RAs was brought in about hibs uberness in RvR. and then also whined while at it what was yet to be.
At the time you started to whine about hibs the class changes had been not to great. the only nerfs was mid CC, cleric smite (that should have improved clerics as a groupchar), sarchernerf (hardly a nerf for groups as thier solocapability was nerfed) and the assasin 1shot nerf (se archernerf).
also agree with Nol(?) that if someone doesn't get Purge it's not others but himselfg he should whine at. cuz a FG of albs that know how to play can sometimes be a challange. have to add another FG albs or two to make it intresting most often. wich is sad.
At the time you started to whine about hibs the class changes had been not to great. the only nerfs was mid CC, cleric smite (that should have improved clerics as a groupchar), sarchernerf (hardly a nerf for groups as thier solocapability was nerfed) and the assasin 1shot nerf (se archernerf).
also agree with Nol(?) that if someone doesn't get Purge it's not others but himselfg he should whine at. cuz a FG of albs that know how to play can sometimes be a challange. have to add another FG albs or two to make it intresting most often. wich is sad.
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dakeyras
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You said it!!!
'Can sometimes be a challenge.'
Is this when GP isn't up?
ROFLMAO
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tankster
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isnt daoc a great game or what !? 
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kameh
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Why not just rename them healers and give them all the healers abilites. hell why not just rename albion - midgard and give them exactly the same classes.
realms are meant to be different.
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I find it har to believe you are in Llaw, you should know better.
A hero attacks with a fast weapon and then shield slams. Doesnt matter if the caster has 6sec og 10sec pbt, its a dead caster unless he manages to use purge and get a insta heal. When the hero has done this trick.... no more pbt for the albion group.
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About hibs and mezzing.
Bard uses insta AE amnesia which is at 2300 range, interrupts alb casters/mez, uses castable mez, voila.
To counter this every group member needs purge, or minstrel/sorc (w/purge) uses demez. At the same time as hib group attacks..
If the sorc gets off a mez before the bard does, the hib group only needs 1 druid with GP.. compared to the alb group who either:
1) Runs off with SOS, returns and gets past amnesia/mez
2) every single group member needs purge
Personally I think hibs are better off..
Bard uses insta AE amnesia which is at 2300 range, interrupts alb casters/mez, uses castable mez, voila.
To counter this every group member needs purge, or minstrel/sorc (w/purge) uses demez. At the same time as hib group attacks..
If the sorc gets off a mez before the bard does, the hib group only needs 1 druid with GP.. compared to the alb group who either:
1) Runs off with SOS, returns and gets past amnesia/mez
2) every single group member needs purge
Personally I think hibs are better off..
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All in Alb delete and reroll in hib! And we will all have happy happy joy times where none are whining! Cuz we have the uber classes and uber ra:s - you will have it too then!! WEEE!!
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Jiggs
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ur soo ugly tho, i'd sooner play with trolls then firbolgs.
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mastade
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How can a >spear< be fast compared to anything?, its fast enough to break through the 10 sec pbt cycle tho , but not the 6 sec one, believe me, im a warden. i have seen 1handed tanks being unable to hit through 6 sec pbt, there is a hell of a diff. Plus the shield can be obsorbed to etc.
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missfinland
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but then you will just whine in mid? o_0
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Jiggs
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i'm not whining i just think ur smelly treehuggers
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Mavl
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Is it true that firbis have small dicks ?
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Gahldir
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Nope, rather when albs are smart enough to purge/avoid beeing mezzed and then ALL go for Lavelle and Temperance/Moriaana/Ola before they try start to go solo VS me or any other tank in our group. I mean you won't kill me 1on1 as long as someone is healing me and your clerics are dead cuz you are so hot on trying to pwn someone in a 1on1 (tho it's hardly 1on1 the first minute since I don't hit back).
but yes, Hib is prolly overpowered at the moment and allowed to do more mistakes in 1 fight then albs are. If you are smart enough get a merc to play a mezzed cleric by standing still with a shield. when a tank comes use Dirty tricks and pwn me.
btw, it's OFLAM... tho I guess you aren't leet enough to use that word!!
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Laralyn
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before i joined LA i was already rr5..
the reason you never heard of me before is because i didnt bother to make a BW account and engage in the countless flaming wars.. i wont do it now
all i said were my thoughts.. i am not responsible to make your tactics and i will most certainly not tell you how you can win against us.. however mythic's lack of action should be an indication that other albs are doing better
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Gahldir
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No, that's elphs!
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dakeyras
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Originally posted by Laralyn
however mythic's lack of action should be an indication that other albs are doing better
Nope.
Albs are being stuffed on every US server bar one (which has huge population probs)
The reason Mythic hasn't done anything is that they don't know what to do. They know full well that a lot of those playing Hib/Mid atm migrated from Albion (after undertaking the mandatory Skillz & Tactics course).
If they fix Albion those players will return (after having the Skillz & Tactics erased from memory) and compound population issues.
Still, I believe something will be done by the time 1.59 reaches Z, and it will probably be a combo of Alb buffage and Hib nerfage. Just hope GOA don't drag their feet.
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kameh
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No mention of Midgard there, is it nerfed and buffed?
I hope they find a solution without making the realms more alike in terms of classes, that'd blur the reasons for going midgard/hibernia/albion
I hope they find a solution without making the realms more alike in terms of classes, that'd blur the reasons for going midgard/hibernia/albion
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Originally posted by Laralyn
however mythic's lack of action should be an indication that other albs are doing better
Excalibur is the most active RvR server, I think every realm here can say they pwn the other servers realm.
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About LA
Hello all,
LA has best groups at RvR, no doubt.
Reason? Players and teamwork.
/Salute
Hello all,
LA has best groups at RvR, no doubt.
Reason? Players and teamwork.
/Salute
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old.Outlaw
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LA don't need Group Purge is all I am saying....
Let's face it we r paying for population imbalance, when all of us prefer Guild v Guild, fg v fg RvR.
And in such situations which come about every 15-30 mins, GP renders Wuren, Eleas (and too a lesser extent Tankster/Laralyn) invulnerable to any CC, as they have either/ or will use GP....outcome inevetable, I'll let Wuren explain that bit...
anyway I am gonna start counting the number of times GP causes a Tidal wave head on us.
Let's face it we r paying for population imbalance, when all of us prefer Guild v Guild, fg v fg RvR.
And in such situations which come about every 15-30 mins, GP renders Wuren, Eleas (and too a lesser extent Tankster/Laralyn
) invulnerable to any CC, as they have either/ or will use GP....outcome inevetable, I'll let Wuren explain that bit...anyway I am gonna start counting the number of times GP causes a Tidal wave head on us.
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'Still, I believe something will be done by the time 1.59 reaches Z, and it will probably be a combo of Alb buffage and Hib nerfage. Just hope GOA don't drag their feet.'
I have been playing this game since shortly after US Beta. I did and still do think its a great fun game ( though I think the high end content is rather limited).
I was going to buy SI but I just don't enjoy it anymore - the imbalance is too great. Maybe they will nerf Hibs and help the Albs out. As far as I'm concerned its too late.
Mythic will find out that the MMORPG is expanding and fast moving - and like any business, if you dont keep a third of your customers happy - they will vote with their feet...
This is the real problem here - not the fact that one side or the other is too powerful. Its simply that if there is a perceived problem, then there may as well be a real problem. Either way you end up with boards full of whines and paying customers leaving- as they have begun to do.
I have been playing this game since shortly after US Beta. I did and still do think its a great fun game ( though I think the high end content is rather limited).
I was going to buy SI but I just don't enjoy it anymore - the imbalance is too great. Maybe they will nerf Hibs and help the Albs out. As far as I'm concerned its too late.
Mythic will find out that the MMORPG is expanding and fast moving - and like any business, if you dont keep a third of your customers happy - they will vote with their feet...
This is the real problem here - not the fact that one side or the other is too powerful. Its simply that if there is a perceived problem, then there may as well be a real problem. Either way you end up with boards full of whines and paying customers leaving- as they have begun to do.
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old.Outlaw
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I have no intentions on leaving 
Bring on the unque itamz
Bring on the unque itamz
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old.Tzeentch
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..wrong
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Mkay, how do you do it then? Start to cast mez, half way through mez you insta amnesia?
Though a hib group can defeat an alb group(similar RR) easier than the other way around, because of the distribution of abilities among the classes and distribution of utility spells in attractive speclines. There shouldn't be only ONE specific way to be able to be competitive vs another realm. You shouldn't be needing a RR advantage to defeat an equal group. It's the general balance that needs to be fixed. Which has been done in all over these boards..
Seems like people actually think that Albions are generally dumber worldwide and across the servers. If so that must mean that people in Llaw Arian are generally smarter, with higher IQ, than the rest of Hibernia because they are higher RR than the average? So it's not from more time spent = more experience in RvR?
About Mythic's lack of action. Wrong, that's no indication on albs performing better elsewhere.(Why do you think there's hardly Albion classes on the COOP server, or the PVP server? Doesn't that have something to do with the utility and fun of the respective classes/speclines?).
Browse the VNboards, you will see several Official 'albion' threads. They are looking into issues and problems presented. If you take a closer look you will see the lack of Hibernian and Midgardian threads. There's even hibs and mids coming with suggestions on how to fix albion issues. Isn't that an 'indication' on the performance and utility of albion classes?
Heh, just an example about lack of action. Look at Scouts and Archers generally? Mythic has said that archers have issues needing to be resolved and that scouts are indeed under par, below what's intended. But they don't know what to do with them yet.
That has been going on for very long while, so you can see that they aren't throwing in solutions as soon as people start to whine about issues. They are afraid to alter stuff without knowing what chainreactions that might cause(done that before, they know what problems it causes). Pure logic..
To revamp a large part of a realms abilities and classes is a bit much to do just like that....
Got a bit longer than planned.. sigh, nitey..
Originally posted by Laralyn
all i said were my thoughts.. i am not responsible to make your tactics and i will most certainly not tell you how you can win against us.. however mythic's lack of action should be an indication that other albs are doing better
Though a hib group can defeat an alb group(similar RR) easier than the other way around, because of the distribution of abilities among the classes and distribution of utility spells in attractive speclines. There shouldn't be only ONE specific way to be able to be competitive vs another realm. You shouldn't be needing a RR advantage to defeat an equal group. It's the general balance that needs to be fixed. Which has been done in all over these boards..
Seems like people actually think that Albions are generally dumber worldwide and across the servers. If so that must mean that people in Llaw Arian are generally smarter, with higher IQ, than the rest of Hibernia because they are higher RR than the average? So it's not from more time spent = more experience in RvR?
About Mythic's lack of action. Wrong, that's no indication on albs performing better elsewhere.(Why do you think there's hardly Albion classes on the COOP server, or the PVP server? Doesn't that have something to do with the utility and fun of the respective classes/speclines?).
Browse the VNboards, you will see several Official 'albion' threads. They are looking into issues and problems presented. If you take a closer look you will see the lack of Hibernian and Midgardian threads. There's even hibs and mids coming with suggestions on how to fix albion issues. Isn't that an 'indication' on the performance and utility of albion classes?
Heh, just an example about lack of action. Look at Scouts and Archers generally? Mythic has said that archers have issues needing to be resolved and that scouts are indeed under par, below what's intended. But they don't know what to do with them yet.
That has been going on for very long while, so you can see that they aren't throwing in solutions as soon as people start to whine about issues. They are afraid to alter stuff without knowing what chainreactions that might cause(done that before, they know what problems it causes). Pure logic..
To revamp a large part of a realms abilities and classes is a bit much to do just like that....
Got a bit longer than planned.. sigh, nitey..
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aye Miss they are meant to be different...unique right? so how come Mid and Hib both get instant mess and ranged stun..where as alb get urm instant pbaoe mess omfg uber like.
Hibs win battles, Mids win battles, reason? cus unless alb gets the jump they're fucked cus of instants. Fact.
Laralyn theres more places than BW forums to see your name ie death msgs
LA play on tank based grps cus hib tanks > all and cus there pbt classes are so hard to kill compare to other 2 realms they breeze through most groups I'm looking at next patch with a certain hope that it will level out RvR a bit more as albs have so many tanks..but then 1 hib tank = 2 alb as do most hib classes tbh mythic made a game that shouldn't of been released untill after alot more testing...but atm its the best Player vs Player online game at a large scale so we play it.
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Do u think she was making rps w/o killing anyone?^^ I can confirm: she DOESNT leechOriginally posted by Treniel-
Laralyn theres more places than BW forums to see your name ie death msgs
And Im used to see dms by her in almost every battle.
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old.Tzeentch
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only if you see anyone from the other group start to cast
there is a good reason why you dont ever cast amnesia on stationary group/person before you start the mezz tho (unless you want to stop stealthers from stealthing)
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Bleh, that's a personal, tactical decision. You still have the utility at hand.
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old.Tzeentch
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nope.. amnesia does nothing at all to interrupt a caster, if he hasnt started to cast.. dont ask me why, but its like that
has to hit the caster during the cast..
has to hit the caster during the cast..