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[hotrat]

What utter bollox, most Hib classes are one trick ponies also BUT when we got our respecs in the last patch we took the chance to "ungimp" our classes - healers for good heals, nukers out of gimped specs like void into mana, bards to mezz etc etc. This makes a lot of these classes crap as soloers but in a ballanced group really kick ass. Albs on the other hand seem to have gone the other way and tried to make their character good solo but gimped in a group, not really ours or Mythics fault IMO

After the smite nerf i think a lot of clerics respecced to higher rejuv and enhance, a few wizards maybe switched to earth or ice but fire is still probably the best for general rvr. Tanks prolly stayed the same, minstrels maybe a little less stealth, theurg to air spec...
Basically most alb classes can't spec for groups, clerics should go rejuv and most do now, sorc should go mind, but 44 mind is too expensive, 34 gives a slightly worse mezz but allows a much higher body spec. Theurg should go high earth spec but it sux... I also think giving wizz pbae, gtae and bolts alll on different lines was a bad idea. I dunno about you but i get the feeling alb never uses pbae, and rarely uses gtae compared to the other realms (hib - pbae, mid - gtae) who use it all the time.

 

[fenikske]

Originally posted by -optical-


lol. logged in at the tower in emain few days ago and was killed by an inf, then sees fc leading the zerg up to the tower.
Little while later spotted em camping mmg.
FC=zerglins

sorry to disappoint ya mate , we mostly try to outrun the zerg
- more albs mean less rp and to easy fights
- more albs mean more chance for a counter zerg
so what proffit we have for leading a zerg?
It can be that you think that 1.5 - 2 fg is a zerg oki but that isn't a zerg in my standards

and camping mate? : I only camped once in a FC group and that was in our own realm at hadriens and that becoz you mids came to farm albs a bit to much in standard norms
Ir can be that YOU think that sitting and regaining power & endurance and rebuffing resists is camping then you have right we camp by your standards

so pl**s* sh*t th* f*ck *p

ps what were you doing in the tower anyway camping?

 

[Wuren]

Originally posted by Arthwyr
Let me write you a guide:

No you ghetto stealther

Here is a guide for you

1) Do not try to PA a rr8 tank instead of the elf standing next to him
2) Reinvite Wildfire to FC

 

[fenikske]

Originally posted by Wuren


No you ghetto stealther

Here is a guide for you

1) Do not try to PA a rr8 tank instead of the elf standing next to him
2) Reinvite Wildfire to FC

old news mate, stay a bit up to date :

1) wildfire is back in FC
2) arthwyr left FC

 

[Apathy]

Paul McCartney left FC too, remember. Albion is truly fucked now.

~wails~

a.
*

 

[Wuren]

No, you got Karam back now.

 

[kinadold]

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What utter bollox, most Hib classes are one trick ponies also BUT when we got our respecs in the last patch we took the chance to "ungimp" our classes - healers for good heals, nukers out of gimped specs like void into mana, bards to mezz etc etc. This makes a lot of these classes crap as soloers but in a ballanced group really kick ass. Albs on the other hand seem to have gone the other way and tried to make their character good solo but gimped in a group, not really ours or Mythics fault IMO
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U must be the dumbest player on xcalibur.

Plz tell me how to spec a minstrel without stealth, but with
insta ae mezz.
Plz tell me how to spec a wizard with faster pbaoe and stun.
and so on....

 

[optical-]

Originally posted by fenikske


sorry to disappoint ya mate , we mostly try to outrun the zerg
- more albs mean less rp and to easy fights
- more albs mean more chance for a counter zerg
so what proffit we have for leading a zerg?
It can be that you think that 1.5 - 2 fg is a zerg oki but that isn't a zerg in my standards

and camping mate? : I only camped once in a FC group and that was in our own realm at hadriens and that becoz you mids came to farm albs a bit to much in standard norms
Ir can be that YOU think that sitting and regaining power & endurance and rebuffing resists is camping then you have right we camp by your standards

so pl**s* sh*t th* f*ck *p

ps what were you doing in the tower anyway camping?

fyi i logged there the night b4 ;p
I saw more than 2 groups which is a zerg

Anyways dont take it too seriously was just an observation i made during the exciting alb zerg.

 

[Wuren]

Ill let Popov answer that but I WILL tell you how to quote someone: use QUOTE xxxxxx /QUOTE or simply press the "Quote" button

 

[fenikske]

Originally posted by optical-


fyi i logged there the night b4 ;p
I saw more than 2 groups which is a zerg

Anyways dont take it too seriously was just an observation i made during the exciting alb zerg.

just defend my guild like you would do for yours , and for that more then 2 FG : you can't allways stop peeps from following ya.
(but never i quote never : we lead a zerg)

 

[Treniel-]

yus belive da cleric for they are women/men of the church of albion and can therefore never lie! tis true!



shes right we don't if people follow us how can we stop them..same thing with NP and there 10fg followers and LA and there 5fg

 

[hotrat]

Plz tell me how to spec a minstrel without stealth, but with
insta ae mezz.
Plz tell me how to spec a wizard with faster pbaoe and stun.
and so on....

Similar to my point but more aggressive Bards got insta ae mezz so they all respecced to the music line, 43 nurture for speed song 5, 47 music for last insta mezz and 16 in regrowth. Any bard who specs weapon or regrowth high should make a druid or a warden instead
All the chanters who didn't realise how good the mana line was respecced to mana. Eldritch is like albs wizard, has good spells in all 3 lines, I wouldn't call void gimped for groups, just check out the other thread about GTAE in relic defence.
Albs sorc didnt have an insta ae mezz in their mind line to respec to (a insta ae mezz at 4x spec would have been nice, more sorcies with the last ae mezz would help albs for sure), hardly any wizzies respecced to ice, theurg didnt think well 6 sec pbt rox i better get it. Our clerics did respec to rejuv at least as i said before but generally albs abilities didnt change much so nor did their specs.

 

[CBH_Popov]

Originally posted by kinadold

U must be the dumbest player on xcalibur.

After that weak attempt at a put down thats got to be 2nd dumbest surely? :wink2:

I think even you could realise what I was saying..... at least I hope so. :doh:

In similar vein though tell me how to respec 12 second insta pbae stun on my Eld kthx <wonders if he should mention he does know thats a Mid thing>

 

[missfinland]

insta 12sec pbaoe stun? o_0

 

[mele-nko]

didn't u know Miss? Your such a noob. It's a dwarf runemaster thing...when they fart, everyone paralyzes .....Mwahahahahaha!!!

 

[Flimgoblin]

Originally posted by Laralyn
why do you have to use the EXACT same things as hibs use..
why cant you develop your own tactics around your own RAs, abilities etc..
oh wait you did that.. its called zerg (not a whine - dont flame)
bring it on

just a thought

Useful things in RvR:

Heals: on two classes, one class has no reason to spec it and rarely uses it, the other is no longer seen.

PBT: On a cloth caster, rarely specced more than 10s.

Mezz: on a cloth caster.

Methinks albion needs to pick different tactics...
Albion has oodles of tanks... shame that two stacked PBT and nice PBAOE is very very good against tanks.

Albion tactics: we need two of us for every one of them.

anyway this is a Dissing thread, so I'll stop being geeky: u suxorrs or something

 

[noaim]

Originally posted by exe
U wont believe, but GP is really rarely needed;>

Really?

Then next time someone whines about it you can cut the crap about the rechargetimer. Great!

 

[mastade]

After the smite nerf i think a lot of clerics respecced to higher rejuv and enhance, a few wizards maybe switched to earth or ice but fire is still probably the best for general rvr. Tanks prolly stayed the same, minstrels maybe a little less stealth, theurg to air spec...
Basically most alb classes can't spec for groups, clerics should go rejuv and most do now, sorc should go mind, but 44 mind is too expensive, 34 gives a slightly worse mezz but allows a much higher body spec. Theurg should go high earth spec but it sux... I also think giving wizz pbae, gtae and bolts alll on different lines was a bad idea. I dunno about you but i get the feeling alb never uses pbae, and rarely uses gtae compared to the other realms (hib - pbae, mid - gtae) who use it all the time.

Albs can spec for groups, but they just rarely do it. For instance theurgs, they will do as you say and spec Wind and they will be one of the most powerfull mage classes in a 1on1 situation. But in a group that isn't far as good as a theurg specced in earth, the pbt would own all the damn spear heroes and LW champs, and therfore every tank in LA . but good for us you dont - I once heard some hib in emain /yell "wtf, do albs get pbt now????".

Every alb should ask them self:" how would i be great in a group", instead of "how would i be great solo" - A smite cleric, Air theurg, and body sorc, will never do as good as a Rejuv cleric, earth theurg, and mind sorc in a group.

ah well just a thought :bazbeer:

 

[old.Odysseus]

Originally posted by mastade


Albs can spec for groups, but they just rarely do it. For instance theurgs, they will do as you say and spec Wind and they will be one of the most powerfull mage classes in a 1on1 situation. But in a group that isn't far as good as a theurg specced in earth,

Lets take a look at the earth line, shall we:
Earth pets : 12% power per cast - with 6 sec pbt running... nah
6 sec pbt : magnificent
insta attack speed debuff : I rarely use it
...
...
...
man I better go spec earth, my EB will also have lower variance.
(Note that you cant spec for anything but a good aoe root with your remaining points - air line is a waste if you dont go 45)

Now lets check out air:
Air pets : I kill any tank 1v1 with these
AoE mezz : I use it all the time
DD : On spirit line, which isnt much resisted, magnificent, hardest hitting DD in all of Albion.

Besides that you can spec 10 sec pbt and 23 sec aoe root.

Take a few seconds and figure out which class is more fun to play?
Are the sacrifices made for the 10->6 sec pbt really worth it?
Which spec is more useful for the group?

 

[Salazar]

More whine here.. great

 

[huw]

hmm - went out RvR on Saturday night for the first time proper, only lvl 38 but thought what the heck lets have a look what its all about

In a full grp mostly lvl 50s with me and 2 lvl 4x

Running along when i notice 'You resist the effect' appear in the log. Thought we had run passed an aggro mob so span the camera round and nearly spilled my beer on the keyboard when I saw countless Hibs in yellow cloaks. About to type some frantic message to the grp when the following appeared 'Darkexec hits you for 878 damage' 2 more hits by someone else and i was dead. I could only lay on the ground and marvel at how quickly they targetted the different classes in the grp and destroyed them

Decided at that point to lick my wounds and go back to xping

gg

Paddington

 

[dakeyras]

Albion does have a problem in RvR, particulary against Hibs. It is possible for an Alb group to compete but to do so everything must go right 100%.

Last night was a typical example. 1 FG of Shadowlords made it into Breifine past the Hib zerg camping AMG by using SoS. Roamed around a bit and killed some solos until we ambushed a Hib group heading emain.

Everything went right. Hibs not panning cameras, aoe root -> gp purge -> aoe mezz -> 2 Hib tanks purge -> BoF -> ignore Hib tanks -> /assist MA and kill Hibs one by one.

Get out of Dodge, rest, rebuff resists then catch another Hib group running blinkered to Emain.

Aoe root -> gp purge -> aoe mezz -> Hibs purge -> Bard insta mezz -> stun/nuke/nuke/nuke -> Albs dead.

If Hib groups get the jump on Alb groups they win. If Alb groups get the jump on Hib groups they can still lose. That is what annoys Albs. The concentration of RvR abilities is too strong and needs dilution.

 

[mastade]

DD : On spirit line, which isnt much resisted, magnificent, hardest hitting DD in all of Albion.

Well, i dont know about mids, but in a standard hib group who got a decent warden in it, which means you get 24% spirit resist buffs to the whole group, and the race that there are most of, celts, who gets 5% racial spirit resistance bonus, plus the fact that spirit resistance items is the easiest to find in hib , Aom atleast 1, makes me end u with almost 60% spirit resist - hardest hitting DD?, i dont get how that can be true?

Are the sacrifices made for the 10->6 sec pbt really worth it?

Again, with most heroes specced spear, and champs specced LW, there is a diff. whether they will hit you every sec. time or hit you at all. Still, the earth line need a bit of fixing to be "fun" to spec.
but i still think that you should let the sorc mezz, the fire wizz nuke and the theurg pbt and Ae root to make the grp more functional imo.

 

[old.Nol]

I find that people blame other things for their losses as opposed to blaming themselves and some stupid decisions. I have said it before and say it again, the person that moans about CC and hasn't spent RA's on Purge, deserves every miserable second they spend immobile.

 

[Flimgoblin]

Originally posted by mastade

but i still think that you should let the sorc mezz, the fire wizz nuke and the theurg pbt and Ae root to make the grp more functional imo.

Notice a problem here - our mezzer and our pbt are cloth casters...
they die in two hits or three nukes.

Midgard has a chain-wearing mezzer.

Hibernia has (scaled? reinforced? better than cloth and a lot more hp) wearing mezzer and pbt.

 

[dakeyras]

It is not GP itself that is massively overpowered imo, it is the combo of GP and individual purge. Hibs get 2 get out of jail free cards that can be used back to back = win.

If Albs/Mids purge mezz they can be stunned/rooted and goodnight Vienna.

Hibs are for the bat...we know it and you know it. Just get it done Mythic.

 

[)nick(]

Haha! Miss needs to stfu. Spec back to mana pls.

 

[Arnor]

Give albs insta-mezz on the clerics or mincers, thats what they really need.

2) no heros dont hit for ~50 with bof up (maybe that r4LWnoop ;p) . BoF only absorbs 50% of the dmg not 90%

DRRRT! Wrong!

Bof ADDS 50% absorb, so on a plate wearer, its 35%(i think) + 50%=85% absorb. Chain = 27+50=77% and so on..
BoF is fecking uber, and so is SoS. Still doesnt help against insta-cc vs qc-cc.

Heres proof:

 

[old.Odysseus]

hardest hitting DD?, i dont get how that can be true?

True, hibs have good resists against spirit.
True, I hit way harder against mids than hibs.

However, the following list shows what is on the spirit line to resist:
http://www.camelot-seer.com/handler.cfm?app=&method=magicResistances

To sum up Albion spirit offensives:
Cleric dd
Cleric stun
Cabalist snare
Theurg mezz
Theurg dd

With the limited number of smite clerics in the game today, resists to this line offer very little, hence few ppl focus on it.
The sorc DD is on body table - no comments needed on that.
The wizzie DD is on heat, but as Alb's prime nuker this gives a lot of incentive to focus on this.

 

[Aussie-]

why does a hib reply with 'whine' if he's out of arguments?
oh right that looks tuff instead of saying you got all the easy/better stuff :hat:
there is not 1 server where albs say they can win from hibgroups.
every server just begs for something to compete with hibs.
but hey maybe you can bring out the 'we got skill' argument
don't forget who owned your ass before RA's came