to Krom (and yes i want every1 to read)

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old.Anarki

Guest
My dear friend i'm very ashamed to see you cheating, even not because you do that, but because 1)You are Russian so am i, and i'm ashemed that you do that 2) You are rouining the game 3) You have the shittiest reputatuion (atleast in Albion)
Pls stop using Daoc Radar, or Odins eye or whatever its called. And dont run away form your m8 when you see on radar that a force larger then you group is coming, better die fighting then running.
I lost last respect i had to you, and guild Black Company has fallen in my eyes two :( as any guild that allows cheating.
 
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Cuthervaen

Guest
Don't think that smurf is cheating tbh

Well killed Krom at least two times today in occasions where his group tried or seemed to try to avoid the engagement, that would not happen if he had seen us on radar from afar.

So i'd say this is bullshit until correct proof backs it up...
 
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old.Anarki

Guest
1)Stealthed @ mPK lotherys, Krom comes pbmezzes all around.
2)Ialkran @ lotherys me stealthed near, Krom ports runn around and get to stone from behind nuking Ilak.
3) Runnin alone in the middle of nowhere @ alb side amg, Krom comes with scald, nukes.
4) 3 minstrels stealth near amg and passing throug it stelathed, Krom comes and Pbae all around.

Do i have to make photos of him using daox or inst it obvious? :(
 
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Aussie-

Guest
you can't proof radar , totally sucks.
just from personal experiences.

not really something you can see when you zerg them :rolleyes:
 
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belth

Guest
Could be just luck. I think the last time I went to Emain for a longer time than 1 death, I killed Krom 2 times. One was at AMG north stairs, where Finster failed to protect him. Second time he was sitting down to relog or something, so I killed him - easy with a 2 second stun in opening style (BS2). Few weeks back I killed him with Hotrats, he didn't try avoid us or run away, not before we had unstealthed...

Don't see how he'd been using any of the aforementioned programs, unless he's started using one now, unless he has somekind of newly found ban-wish?
 
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Aussie-

Guest
duh you can't see stealthed ppl, just go GTAE mez where the dots disappear.

GTAE mezzed me and anarki once when we came with speed5 thru mmg when he was hiding a bit at other side. didnt even see us . well yeah, luck luck luck :rolleyes:
 
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belth

Guest
Ah well, guess you know these things better, using a buffbot and living in Emain...
 
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old.Anarki

Guest
Whose whining? You Curth trying to show your smart or Eleasias? You both dont know anything then :( thus dont know what you talk about. I'm not whinig just posting i got no repspect for certain player. Prolly will include you there 2 cause i dont like smartasses :(
 
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Khalen

Guest
So that's why he had seen me... because his m8s never saw me behind the corner but he had...
 
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old.XanateA

Guest
He uses some kind of radar. PERIOD.
Example: 25 hibs inc S-E in 20 seconds!!! in emain CG

and ive played in his groups so i know
 
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cymos

Guest
hmmm

some days ago i was soloing in emain, im a 50 chanter.
I ran to tower and saw alot of mids and then fled, i saw krom and a troll was after me, and i ran very far, but anyway Krom finds me, then i sprint away from him again ever further this time (from tower to backside of lake near mmg). Some mins later Krom finds me and kills me.

I'm not claiming he is cheating, but then it would make sense.
But he could just be very smart.
 
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Sabu

Guest
Originally posted by old.XanateA
He uses some kind of radar. PERIOD.
Example: 25 hibs inc S-E in 20 seconds!!! in emain CG

and ive played in his groups so i know


Ummm smells bad this Krom...
 
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Envenom2

Guest
thing is how can you actually prove someone is using a cheat? i mean you cant exactly screen shot the cheater has a radar or can mythic find out if their useing cheats?
 
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Cuthervaen

Guest
Actually was referring to Aussie's post Anarki, where he's doing allusion to zerg etc...

Thing is I'd never though Krom used radar due to the several times we caught him with his pants down. Hard to have a proof either way but if he does can't understand that. Like pulling out the only part that is actually fun in RvR :(

AC2 got a built in legal radar, silly thing. But I guess AC2 PvP will suck anyway by many other ways.
 
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laenna

Guest
cheat

grrr i dont like cheats grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
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Tranquil-

Guest
Who needs proof? Just come with a reasonable doubt, then GOA will do the rest.
 
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belth

Guest
Originally posted by Tranquil-
Who needs proof? Just come with a reasonable doubt, then GOA will do the rest.

I doubt they'll do anything if people just post here at BarrysWhine. Use RightNow and something might happen or not.
 
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cougar-

Guest
mids who rvr alot in emain knows he cheats, ive heard stuff like "4 albs inc, range 3500, L50 cleric, L48 scout, L50 armsman, L50 paladin".

so its a fact, no use to argue about, maybe harder to provide evidence to give him a +b from daoc.
 
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Zag Barr

Guest
Who needs further proof, if even his realm mates "admit" to the suspicision?

Just one more suspicious story from me:

Two weeks back I was grouped with Alpha and Brommix. Krom was about, grouped with Giramas. Since we heared many stories about him and his radar, we set up a little experiment. The three of us stealthed in a wide triangle between mtk and mmg - we waited for them to come from mpk, let them pass until they were just about to leave clipping range and unstealthed in his back. Surely enuff, every time he and Giramas turned on the spot to head back. He did that repeatedly with all three of us - even when we unstealthed behind trees, so he couldn't have seen us with a camera facing back.

Sure that's no proof and could be just major luck.

Similar stories were told all over Albion about Madeleine, but I never had the chance to set up an experiment for her ...

On a different note: Recently had an annoying number of people escaping my persuit with illegal jumping (not going to explain it further, since too many know it already). Just to give you guys a fair warning: I will start to write down the people who do it and if you try it twice on me, I will report you - and this "cheat" is something that can easily be checked by GOA.
 
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old.Varg

Guest
Mythic banned a bunch of people for using 'Radar' utilities on Andred.

Please Goa, look to getting same detection abilties here, cheating ruins a game like this.
 
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Haldar

Guest
1. 3 or so weeks ago Krom stated on BC forum that he doesnt' use radars. And i doubt that he'd lie to his guildmates.

2. Odin's Eye (ExcalibEr project now) and Daoc Unleahsed cannot detect stealthed players. Period.
 
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old.Odysseus

Guest
2. Odin's Eye (ExcalibEr project now) and Daoc Unleahsed cannot detect stealthed players. Period.

Try and read Zag's post again:

[...]and unstealthed in his back[...]

They unstealth, pop up on radar, he turns to gank.
 
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pitspawn

Guest
Its pretty sad to see someone can get away with cheating in this game. Having some form of radar is a massive advantage over other players. And its sad to see that there isnt any real way of prooving that they are cheating. The only way to stop this sort of thing is to make sure that incoming packets cant be read by other programs, maybe some kind of encryption would be needed. Because its programs intercepting the incoming packets that allow cheats like this.

Originally posted by cougar-
mids who rvr alot in emain knows he cheats, ive heard stuff like "4 albs inc, range 3500, L50 cleric, L48 scout, L50 armsman, L50 paladin".

On another note, this is blatent proof of him cheating, if what was said is true. Its one thing to say the number of inc, another to say the exact range, but saying the player classes AND their EXACT levels is impossible without cheating.
 
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Haldar

Guest
cymos

think u know about pet-hunting. if a pet class commands his pet to attack you, pet will follow u to the end of the earth, even if u are stealthed. very annoying for me as SB....but can be useful for Krom

Xanatea

BC now has 5 actevely playng SB's. It is very likely that one of us saw those hibs and related this info to /gu

Zag Barr

hmm, dunno what to say on this subject...

cougar-

it seems like a BS to me, bcoz i'm sure Krom is not that dumb to relate such accurate info, thus marking him as cheater.

btw, same stories circulate(d) about Alpha's radar......maybe yes, maybe no, maybe rain, maybe snow....
 
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old.Varg

Guest
Of course it's possible for Mythic/Goa to detect Radar users.

I can think of many ways of doing that, e.g. realying false data out-of-view of suspected radar users.

Suspected Radar user reacts to false data X number of times => Gotcha cheater.

Such a ssytem could be automated, thus not requiring too much personel resources.
 
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censi

Guest
a couple of points....

Trapp has been playing kron lately (and vise versa).... not sure if he still does, or did at the time of these allegations..... One thing trapps accounts is no longer active (wonders if he quit or was banned??? Trapp wasnt a cheater as far as I know, but perhaps if kron was trapps account got caught???) dunno....

2. Odin's Eye (ExcalibEr project now) and Daoc Unleahsed cannot detect stealthed players. Period.

There are plugins to these programs which allow you to see everything stealthed from normal vision range..... and thats a fact. Not many people have them though.... But I fear more and more players are using unleashed.
 
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old.XanateA

Guest
Censi ur so dumb.

Trapp has been playing KORV, a SHADOWBLADE

And its not KRON its KROM, the spiritmaster, plzz retard.
 

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