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Eregion

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Varna said:
All of a sudden people start realising charge+slam bots are the way to-go, fuck me, welcome to 1 1/2 years ago.

Also, Eregion, you whine like a fucking cock, 750 range is still huge, and if your so shit that you can't lock down a caster with bl inteupts with 750 range maybe you should just accept the fact your incapable of playing a ml path that even a fucking blind monkey could play, seriously - try playing with 350 range interupts then whine like a bitch, spoilt ****.

One last thing, don't go saying what I say is stupid, I honestly don't care but atleast open your fucking head up and accept that if you post a dumb fuck whine thread like this, you get crititism and views.

So go choke on a cock, or learn how to adapt and cope w/o whining.
There is so much anger in this one. Anyway, I don't need a single banelord to lock down ONE caster, but when u face 2-3 it's a totally different story. I'm not even gonna bother replying to the rest, cause clearly you have issues, and no experience at all regarding banelord tanks and fg fights.
 

Varna

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Septina said:
If you manage to interupt several casters, with a 750 radius spell, the people you're fighting are even more brainless than you say Ere is ^^

I have had no problem doing it with a 350 range interupt for about 3 years now, 1 year of that I had debuffs which interupted and shortly after they were patched so that they no longer did, I see no reason as to why BL should still interupt with debuffs unless they do damage, so BL tanks still have it easy by a mile to lock down casters if they're capable to-do so, and I've met all levels of opponents.

I still stand by my point, 750 range is still too big.
 

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Eregion said:
There is so much anger in this one. Anyway, I don't need a single banelord to lock down ONE caster, but when u face 2-3 it's a totally different story. I'm not even gonna bother replying to the rest, cause clearly you have issues, and no experience at all regarding banelord tanks and fg fights.

No it's not, jesus - 750 range interupt. Oh, I clearly have issues, ok. I see, becuase I disagree with your pointless whine on BL 'nerf', I'm clueless on the BL and FG stuff, ok.
 

Eregion

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Varna said:
No it's not, jesus - 750 range interupt. Oh, I clearly have issues, ok. I see, becuase I disagree with your pointless whine on BL 'nerf', I'm clueless on the BL and FG stuff, ok.
Your issues lies within not being able to discuss without starting to shout 'suck cock' and stuff like that.
And if you think that 350 radious bl's is fine, then that's your opinion. I don't think you will find many that share it though.
 

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Varna said:
I have had no problem doing it with a 350 range interupt for about 3 years now, 1 year of that I had debuffs which interupted and shortly after they were patched so that they no longer did, I see no reason as to why BL should still interupt with debuffs unless they do damage, so BL tanks still have it easy by a mile to lock down casters if they're capable to-do so, and I've met all levels of opponents.

I still stand by my point, 750 range is still too big.

As i said, if you've managed to interrupt several casters with 1 PULSE of a 350 radius spell then good job on farming noobs all the way to rr8 m8er. :)
 

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Banelord nerf QQ zomg the game is over .......

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

was about time .
 

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>.< Pooned said:
Banelord nerf QQ zomg the game is over .......

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

was about time .

Now you can add even more effectively. :) Or run full castergroups to kill expers. (remember, has to be rr8 - 11 to kill 4 people exping. ^^)

:clap:
 

Varna

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Septina said:
As i said, if you've managed to interrupt several casters with 1 PULSE of a 350 radius spell then good job on farming noobs all the way to rr8 m8er. :)


Thanks very much, maybe make another self glorifying vid about a bunch of no-lifes again now?
 

thaaadi

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Thanks very much, maybe make another self glorifying vid about a bunch of no-lifes again now?
Send him your fraps-material and im sure he will.
 

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Varna said:
Thanks very much, maybe make another self glorifying vid about a bunch of no-lifes again now?

Is that jealousy i smell? Must be.... :)
Just gotta love how everyone automatically assume a person thats high rr = NO LIFE ZOMG! when you have absolutely no clue about any person in this game that you havent, nor never will meet in real life.

But i guess, if you are as bitter as you are i'm sure you cant help it.
Quite sad tbh ^^

Oh and insults based 100% on assumptions? Well done, they really sting :D
 

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Arid|Disci said:
no straef it's cause ur not a HO, gimped highlander lol ! /laugh
Highlanders have a better Roleplay Value (TM) tho :<
 

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Varna said:
I have had no problem doing it with a 350 range interupt for about 3 years now, 1 year of that I had debuffs which interupted and shortly after they were patched so that they no longer did, I see no reason as to why BL should still interupt with debuffs unless they do damage, so BL tanks still have it easy by a mile to lock down casters if they're capable to-do so, and I've met all levels of opponents.

I still stand by my point, 750 range is still too big.

seriously Varna, you have never been in a competent group nor have ever beaten a competent group. how can you then say you had no problems interupting with a 350 range interupt?

750 is to small, period
 

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Alexandrinus said:
tendril fix was really needed,rest....could have left like it was
Not really, I loved tendrils :p The thing with tendrils is that if it's being spammed, sure, it's effective as hell, but it's really easy to avoid by not stunning banelord users.
Raven said:
agree, i have been thinking about this my self, i think the answer is simply that they cant afford to nerf 90% of their player base and risk upsetting them further, everyone can see that casters are way to powerfull in small scale and large scale rvr. mythic fucked up royally and cant fix it.
They could boost the tank classes in that case tho. Sure, people tend to be negative about their class getting nerfed, and in cases of some extreme nerf they might quit. By boosting whatever classes are behind to the same level, however, I don't think they'd upset too many people. Particulary so if they actually balanced casters/tanks/stealthers, tho that's tough even on my imagination. But with boosting classes you're more likely to have people rerolling some fotm classes or simply carrying on, rather than quitting or bitching, unless it's a really retarded boost.
Shike said:
group based on light tanks have to push alot harder now, or tanks will just instawaporize from assisting mages due to the nerfed BL. 3-4tanks+eld or full magegrp is the way to go I think, the tanksetup isnt for anything but v experienced players though, especially the support need to be fkin ace here. Its a pain in the arse for druids to relearn abit but once they also learn to push hard enough it works.

imo ofc..
Yeah, it's a pain in the ass if your group expects you to charge in while having the support remain in the background :p
Rushie said:
isnt the point of being stunned to not be able to retaliate? why should light tanks be the only ones to be free of this for fear of being perma interrupted for god knows how long, if anything tanks have way better chance of surviving a stun than a caster so makes sense to remove tendrils the way it was.

tendrils was OP in its previous state and saying otherwise is just being biased towards tanks, if it wasnt so OP then why were ppl scared to stun them? and why did tanks almost cream there pants when someone stunned them? "omgomg that noob cleric/chanter/healer just stunned me hahahahahaha" u know urself how it went.

everyone else gets slammed and has to deal with it, now BL tanks do to which seems fair to me.


p.s. purge ftw ;)
Casters/support can avoid being slammed by simply staying away from certain classes and/or keeping their range, while a tank is forced to get within melee range in order to be effective, which leaves them more vulnerable. Also, a tank has no way of retaliating against casters, while they do against tanks. Sure, not all caster classes have proper cc, but most (if not all) have got enough to at least stop a tank from running right over them, be it by kiting or strafing or cc'ing. A tank can't get away from caster damage by strafing, and unless the tank uses charge to get away he won't be faster, nor have they (thanks to the patch) got many ways of interrupting/cc'ing casters. This weakness applies to damage aswell as getting stunned, and there's no way that casters are as likely to get slammed unless they run right into the enemy group, or the oposing group has some suicidal slammer.
Martok said:
my merc is running around det 5 charge 3 pain 4 str 3 aom is the rest!
Got bored of retirement then? ;p
Cloudz said:
I'm a Briton > all of you weaklinks
Highlanders are purtier :(
 

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Not as if Varna ever posted anything worth taking seriously, or even reading.
 

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Belomar said:
Not as if Varna ever posted anything worth taking seriously, or even reading.

agree fully, I just reported his posts as abusive as I always do when morons cant use proper language. <shrug>

And well, its harder now as a tank vs casters, it works but, its harder so I still withhold the points I already made earlier in the thread.

(lol at 350 range beeing enuff btw, thats just silly, a halfdecent caster can easily position himself so he's outta range, its not even hard.)
 

Varna

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Shike said:
agree fully, I just reported his posts as abusive as I always do when morons cant use proper language. <shrug>

I'm glad you agree, may you hold hands and wank eachother off in respect of your achievements, I'm sure Belomar would appreciate the gratification of having this done to him.
 

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Varna said:
I'm glad you agree, may you hold hands and wank eachother off in respect of your achievements, I'm sure Belomar would appreciate the gratification of having this done to him.

what is it with you and this fashination with the male organs? Thought you was a guy. (your level of maturity implys that you are a young teenie guy anyways)

Try and make solid points without all the silly childish insulting left and right and some people might actually bother reading the context of your posts?
 

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Shike said:
what is it with you and this fashination with the male organs? Thought you was a guy. (your level of maturity implys that you are a young teenie guy anyways)

Try and make solid points without all the silly childish insulting left and right and some people might actually bother reading the context of your posts?

I'll take that on board, thankyou (holds his penis in his pants).
 

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Varna said:
I'm glad you agree, may you hold hands and wank eachother off in respect of your achievements, I'm sure Belomar would appreciate the gratification of having this done to him.

I warned you at 9:54 and you post this at 10:00 ?

VERY close to a ban... reform your language and behaviour :twak:
 

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If your actually 38, I truly feel sorry for you - Don't take that as a personal insult, but if your going to give people lectures on behaviour, then atleast have the decency to PM me and tell me you've warned me rather than just spamming warn on me when you find something offensive on your boards, if I don't have manners (which I can assure you I do, I place my fork and knife together after finishing a meal, I also open doors for girls so I can look at their asses as they go through) then this might be seen as the wrong way of going about so called 'reforming' somebody and I should expect a 38 year old to cope with this especially on a forum very easily. I expect a ban ofcourse as I knowingly have come to the assumption thar crititism isn't widely accepted on FH just by reading this post alone.
 

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Thanks for your sympathy, but I'll cope :)

I mentioned it publicly as you didn't seem to have heeded the warning that came before, so rather than ban you I decided to draw your attention to the fact that you were at risk.. I apologise if my drawing your attention to your nasty posting behaviour caused you any discomfort. Behave and there'll be no problem.
 

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Varna said:
All of a sudden people start realising charge+slam bots are the way to-go, fuck me, welcome to 1 1/2 years ago.

Also, Eregion, you whine like a fucking cock, 750 range is still huge, and if your so shit that you can't lock down a caster with bl inteupts with 750 range maybe you should just accept the fact your incapable of playing a ml path that even a fucking blind monkey could play, seriously - try playing with 350 range interupts then whine like a bitch, spoilt ****.

One last thing, don't go saying what I say is stupid, I honestly don't care but atleast open your fucking head up and accept that if you post a dumb fuck whine thread like this, you get crititism and views.

So go choke on a cock, or learn how to adapt and cope w/o whining.

think ill just agree with eregion and say ur a clueless cartoon who doesnt know what banelords are used for.

who the hell would base their play on using them on the caster they are killing... except u


ill also agree on the point somebody made earlier, that it is indeed a bit silly how much light tanks need now before they can actually go pick dmg RAs (common thought is a light tank needs det4, charge3, purge2, lw1 = 7L6 .. whether that holds true for all or not can be argued, but it is what a new light tank will be told in most cases). id imagine the majority of non set grp light tanks rerolling/quitting before they ever reach this point, which is a bit sad.
 

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gwal said:
think ill just agree with eregion and say ur a clueless cartoon who doesnt know what banelords are used for.

who the hell would base their play on using them on the caster they are killing... except u.

Interupting not killing mate, maybe the clueless person is yourself for not reading the post correctly.
 

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Varna said:
Interupting not killing mate, maybe the clueless person is yourself for not reading the post correctly.

Why would you wanna interrupt people with spells if you are hitting them. That interrupts regardless :O

350 radius is quite useless for interrupts in open-field RvR. You can interrupt the enemy with it if you are very close, but if you that close, you might aswell take a swing at them.

750 radius is a nerf, but Im hoping Mythic realises casters are getting stronger each patch compared to tanks, and should nerf casters abit more. I just can't understand why they dont nerf casters. Why do I perf a caster for 600~ only to get hit for the exact same amount by his pet, but the pet is doing it *EVERY* swing. Why do casters do comparable damage to my PA with an ordinary nuke ?

IMO its time to overhaul casters. Change resist-piercing in to only remove resists from resist-buffs, not items. And nerf casting-times abit. Dying to 1 caster in 1vs1 before even reaching him is stupid.
 

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bl's are nerfed to death, now maby balance this by giving back old leftaxe dmg plx.

OT: Now here ppl like me, hard working well behaving citizens have 70% warning while people like that eruptwannabe varna still walk around blatantly forumtrolling and no moderation is in sight ;(
 

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Varna said:
Interupting not killing mate, maybe the clueless person is yourself for not reading the post correctly.

so u base ur banelords on being able to lock down 1 caster by interrupting him with BLs instead of meleeing him

najs...
 

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If 2 enemies are standing within 350 radius of each other, you wont need to use banelords to keep them both locked down anyway ;) Especially if you have any kind of insta-taunts and such.

As for how it is now, I thought I'd absolutely hate it. Not only because of the fact that I'm a banelord but because it'd once again be another step forward for casters and back for tanks. Having played last night, I'm actually happy with the differences. No longer can one tank run vaguely in the direction of an enemy group, fire a banelord without thinking about it and get away with interupting everybody.

Tank heavy groups seem to be coming back into the fold also which is a very good thing.

Personally I think the melee lag fix was a bigger change then banelord radius being lowered but that's just me :p

duact said:
OT: Now here ppl like me, hard working well behaving citizens have 70% warning while people like that eruptwannabe varna still walk around blatantly forumtrolling and no moderation is in sight ;(

They don't post most of the time that they warn someone because it'd trigger a flamewar. It dodesn't mean it's not going on though ;)
 

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