Time Travel

[Morchaoron]

yes but i am a mad scientist as you can see :\

 

[Sharma]

2 ways round the paradox issue anyway. The first is the infinate dimensions theories which states that all eventuallities happen somewhere.

I for one believe in the idea of infinite dimensions or (Sliders rip) A multiverse per sé.

Ever thought that say if you had to make a decision 5 years ago that changed the course of your life, ever thought what would happen if you can tackled it differently?

I think it would be pretty intresting to see how it would change things, I mean for all I know I may not even exist in another -verse due to my taking a decision when I was say 5 which killed me or something similar.

Anyhow, back on for the first post, I'm not quite sure about this although it is an intresting read, if anything i'd prefer for some visual evidence rather than say a documentation, whats stopping the person in question being a complete crack-pot who tempered with the equipment?

 

[Ezteq]

yes but i am a mad scientist as you can see :\

ah yes now this i can see, our morch hunched over a work bench brandishing probes and stuff while theres a lightning storm out side, dude its like sooo you!

 

[Ezteq]

Ever thought that say if you had to make a decision 5 years ago that changed the course of your life, ever thought what would happen if you can tackled it differently?

this is actually something that cheers me up grately cos no matter how crap my day is here, in some other dimention im having a great time theres a book by dean koontz called from the corner of his (or my) eye which is about alternate dimentions and another one called lightning about time travel being utilised by the nazi's in ww2 both really good.

 

[Conchabar]

lol u noobs actualy belive in other dimensions and time travel!!

 

[old.Tohtori]

lol u noobs actualy belive in other dimensions and time travel!!

And you still have that kitten fitting your thane as an avatar



*cough* Pussy.

 

[Cyfr]

Extreamly interesting, and one of the many reasons I want to carry on with physics to collage and then Uni. It's quite hard to get your head around it sometimes, I know I get confused even about my own thoughts on the subject...

The more I think of it, the more I think time travel isn't possible, only seeing images of the past, but not being able to interact with it.. (The travel at the speed of light sort of thing).
For sure there isn't just one continuous timeline, as we have no future until it actualy happens.
Eg. FutureCyfr maybe walking down a street but when PresentCyfr get's to that same street and time he may wish to turn the other direction...

Oh, and /clap /cheer at anyone who understands me as I suck at getting my points of view accross.

 

[Cyfr]

lol u noobs actualy belive in other dimensions and time travel!!

The amount of times that sort of thing has been said in the past.... Charles Darwin was laughed at when he said we evolved from monkeys, try proving it wrong now.

 

[Stina Handfast]

I, for one, believe that the "random" behaviour of quantum mechanics is merely a convenient way to explain observations, i.e. a property of the model itself but not of the "reality" to which it claims to correspond. This leads to a deterministic cause-and-effect view of the world, with only one possible future for each past. So no infinite possibilities multiverse needed for me =).

My 5 cents on the subject...

 

[old.Tohtori]

The amount of times that sort of thing has been said in the past.... Charles Darwin was laughed at when he said we evolved from monkeys, try proving it wrong now.

Ahem. *puts on specs*

Actually what C. Darwin said was that we evolved into a different branch then the monkeys but do share the same ancestors.

*specs off*

Seelilized

 

[Cyfr]

Same thing! Damn seals, they evolved from dumb fish, thats why the swim 'n all!

Oh and I knew someone was going to post that I got something wrong as I know very little about Charles Darwin, it was an example and you know what I ment

 

[Brannor McThife]

For the love of all that is good, don't go off and become a scientist that accepts the Theories of the past as fact. I'm not saying the Theory of Evolution is wrong, just that it has never been trully proved.

Macro-evolution = Theory.
Micro-evolution (a.k.a. Adaptation) = Fact.

The absence of an alternative theory, does not make the only proposed one fact.

And I agree with Cyfr on the "observing and not interacting with" time travel theory.

-G

 

[Wij]

For the love of all that is good, don't go off and become a scientist that accepts the Theories of the past as fact. I'm not saying the Theory of Evolution is wrong, just that it has never been trully proved.

Macro-evolution = Theory.
Micro-evolution (a.k.a. Adaptation) = Fact.

The absence of an alternative theory, does not make the only proposed one fact.

And I agree with Cyfr on the "observing and not interacting with" time travel theory.

-G

Macro-evolution = As proved as the theory that the Earth goes round the Sun.

 

[Morchaoron]

Macro-evolution = As proved as the theory that the Earth goes round the Sun.

thats not true m8 cuz the earth is flat!!1

 

[Brannor McThife]

Macro-evolution = As proved as the theory that the Earth goes round the Sun.

One of the wilder statements I've heard.

Nice though. Got any more amusing ones for me?

-G

 

[Job]

Time is a human illusion produced by memory and foresight.

The only reason we see a clock hand move is because we can remember where it was and can anticipate where it is going.

Without those abilities it would always stand still.

In fact just take memory away and it would stand still, cos we wouldn't remember it had been anywhere different.

The only difference between today and a million years ago is that the atoms are in different places.
The only way to go back would be to reaarange all the atoms to what they were an hour ago, except yourself so you could watch it happen (of course this would involve making a copy of yourself, which would require more atoms than the Universe had before, where would you get them from?) then make a change.. things would pan out differently, you would lose the old 'last hour' and get a new one

but it still happened, it would be a slightly different copy.

 

[tris-]

the way i see it, anything is possible. we only say it isnt because we are not capable of interpreting (SP?) anything else than what we have and what our brain is capabale of discovering. who says life cannot exist in a CO2 environment with no water? we only think its impossible because we cannot imagine a non carbon based life form. there is little succes in finding life on other planets because we do not have the tools to detect other forms of life that are no based like ours. that does not mean its impossible for them to exist.

humans invented time, why can humans not invent a machine that would travel backwards through it?

 

[Stina Handfast]

Time is a human illusion produced by memory and foresight.

That´s an attractive statement, and probably true to some extent, but it does not really comply with the phenomenon of time dilatation (relativity of time as predicted by Einstein and later confirmed in experiments).

The notion of difference in time being nothing else than difference in "atom configuration" is an interesting point though.

 

[tris-]

good forum, lots of interesting stuff and very strange people

http://www.anomalies.net/cgi-bin/bbs/ultimatebb.cgi

 

[Job]

Nice site, these strange people are my kin.

 

[tris-]

yeh, 2 peeps called sparkieone and chola or something are total freaks. a lot of the info is good and eye opening. you wonder how the fuck they even though some of it up.

 

[Dillinja]

you wonder how the fuck they even though some of it up.

Lots of free time and lots of dope probably.

 

[Dillinja]

Rofl. This stuff is hilarious. They actually think they know for a fact that Bush is on a mission for world domination and a one world government. They're paranoid maniacs lol. I'm so tempted to create an account on there and wreak some havoc.

 

[Job]

who says life cannot exist in a CO2 environment with no water?

So true Tris.

Even apparently open minded scientists fall for this, we laugh at the closed minds of 16th century science, and are still doing it to this day.

Though I have noticed they have eventually realised this, the no water-no life still persists though.

It's like listening for radio signals, the chances of picking them up are sooo small it's a joke, the civilisation would have to be close..be pointing a very high powered signal in our direction, at just the time we were listening, still be using radio as a communication tool, have the biological need to communicate to bother in the first place, and modulate the signal in a way we would understand.
They only listen in a certain quiet frequency anyway, guessing this is the one they would use

 

[tRoG]

Ignorance is bliss

 

[Culanan]

the way i see it, anything is possible. we only say it isnt because we are not capable of interpreting (SP?) anything else than what we have and what our brain is capabale of discovering. who says life cannot exist in a CO2 environment with no water? we only think its impossible because we cannot imagine a non carbon based life form. there is little succes in finding life on other planets because we do not have the tools to detect other forms of life that are no based like ours. that does not mean its impossible for them to exist.

humans invented time, why can humans not invent a machine that would travel backwards through it?

Ofc, Duck billed platypus ^^ Mammal, lays eggs, suckles young.

Even as we define life we find new variations of it previously deemed impossible or at least a statistical unlikelihood based on current theories and data.

It's also a possibility that in certain parts of our universe time flows backwards, all current theories are subject to revision simply because we can't observe everything, everywhere, all the time.

The danger in popular science is the method of scientific observation, it's highly subjective even in repeated observation and measurement.

It's fine for observing things on a macrocosmic scale but things get a little odd the smaller it gets.

Maybe the best we could do is to teleport instantly to a planet many light years away and from there observe events taking place on planet earth by viewing light that's thousands of years old

 

[tris-]

for all we know, our conditions for living are not perfect. there could be some life out there, with conditions that are the ultimate perfect and are infinatley better than humans, animals and everything on earth.

scientists got the idea that humans are perfect, where from?
they got the idea that the environment for living in MUST be perfect, how?

we could be utter shit compared to some other form of life, and our environment is about as perfect as a pile of dog shit.

 

[Culanan]

Rofl. This stuff is hilarious. They actually think they know for a fact that Bush is on a mission for world domination and a one world government. They're paranoid maniacs lol. I'm so tempted to create an account on there and wreak some havoc.

I would argue that Bush and other contemporary American politicians are using a variation model of the late British Empire to acheive similar ends, just cos there aren't jack booted GI's marching through every city on the planet doesn't mean every shop with a can of Coca Cola isn't acheiving a similar thing

 

[Dillinja]

for all we know, our conditions for living are not perfect. there could be some life out there, with conditions that are the ultimate perfect and are infinatley better than humans, animals and everything on earth.

scientists got the idea that humans are perfect, where from?
they got the idea that the environment for living in MUST be perfect, how?

we could be utter shit compared to some other form of life, and our environment is about as perfect as a pile of dog shit.

The possibilities are infinite. For instance, a lifeform living on a planet with a high gravitational pull, such as Jupiter or maybe something even bigger, would have to have massive strength and huge muscles. I for one think that it is very naive to think that we are alone in space. There are so many possibilities. Earth could not be the only one.

 

[harebear]

Religion was started by some alien race who dropped us (geneticaly modified aliens - humans) on Earth for some reason and created the Bible for us.




We are not alone.