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BloodOmen

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It's serious but hard to contract. Need close proximity.

This is simply how you nip wider serious outbreaks in the bud. We'd have done it for covid but that spreads far too easily for us to get to isolated patients.

No conspiracy needed. If they were covering it up then stories of parachute drops to remote islands wouldn't be on Auntie.

We'll see I guess, I get anxious and I'm sure I'm not alone when we hear of shit like this now after covid, it's a short sigh and a "not again" everytime.
 

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Well Rome's shit:

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Raging (and laughing (and crying)) at Rome's need for social control over it's incresingly ungovernable expanding empire and choice to historise christianity as the method, and it's eventual supplanting by said religion as a much wider (and actually more violent and insidious) system of government.
 

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Is that drawing just the buildings with no sky for you guys?!
 

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Heat pump install started today. Someone at the factory dropped the cylinder so they're bringing another one to replace it. The heat pump itself is in the box, the back yard is full of shit right now while it's being done.
 

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Tom

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Life with a heat pump is interesting. No more boiler noise when I run the tap, no noise on heating. Just a bit of a whirr from some little motor that's going to end up boxed into a cupboard anyway. But the main difference is that the central heating boiler would just come on, fire up all the rads, and then turn off. Whereas the heat pump just comes on gently, warms up the rads, monitors the temperature, thinks about where things will be a bit later, and modulates its output accordingly. The result is that whereas before, the house would be cold-warm-hot-warm-cold-warm-hot, it's now just....warm. I have it set to 19 degrees right now, in winter I'll probably add a degree to that. You can change all kinds of settings in the app but I'm keeping it on the cheap ones for now.

Heat delivered so far is 109.3kWh, using 28.3kWh, so that's a COP of 3.86 so far.
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I'm still waiting for a replacement cylinder (the top is damaged). I can probably improve efficiency because there are a couple of radiators still on 10mm pipe, but the installer said that with the buffer tank (just visible at the top of that video, the dark cylinder), that isn't necessary.
 

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You should copy this into the solar thread too @Tom - be good to have renewable energy experience there?
 

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Life with a heat pump is interesting. No more boiler noise when I run the tap, no noise on heating. Just a bit of a whirr from some little motor that's going to end up boxed into a cupboard anyway. But the main difference is that the central heating boiler would just come on, fire up all the rads, and then turn off. Whereas the heat pump just comes on gently, warms up the rads, monitors the temperature, thinks about where things will be a bit later, and modulates its output accordingly. The result is that whereas before, the house would be cold-warm-hot-warm-cold-warm-hot, it's now just....warm. I have it set to 19 degrees right now, in winter I'll probably add a degree to that. You can change all kinds of settings in the app but I'm keeping it on the cheap ones for now.

Heat delivered so far is 109.3kWh, using 28.3kWh, so that's a COP of 3.86 so far.
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I'm still waiting for a replacement cylinder (the top is damaged). I can probably improve efficiency because there are a couple of radiators still on 10mm pipe, but the installer said that with the buffer tank (just visible at the top of that video, the dark cylinder), that isn't necessary.
In the freeze frame of the video are those 4 things that make up your system? That is a lot of space to find for a heat pump system.
 

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In the freeze frame of the video are those 4 things that make up your system? That is a lot of space to find for a heat pump system.

Yeah it's one of the things that's put me off. Our boiler is pretty small and sits in one corner of the utility room; I think we'd have to put a heat pump outside and box it in, which is doable but a PITA, especially as we've externally insulated the house.
 

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Yeah it's one of the things that's put me off. Our boiler is pretty small and sits in one corner of the utility room; I think we'd have to put a heat pump outside and box it in, which is doable but a PITA, especially as we've externally insulated the house.
Likewise, I have no space inside so would have to build an enclosure outside but I've already got my solar system using space, inverter and 2 battery packs. The garage could be used but I have used most of the space for storing some furniture for my daughter.
 

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In the freeze frame of the video are those 4 things that make up your system? That is a lot of space to find for a heat pump system.

Top right is the brains of the system, does all the controlling, connections, etc, it has some pipes going into it, I think it's moving hot water around various places to balances things out. I think it sees the house is too warm and moves water from the radiators into the water cylinder. Or the other way around. Or using the buffer tank. Top left is the buffer tank, it's designed to reduce the amount of times the heat pump turns on and off and improves efficiency. The two cylinders are expansion vessels, one for the heat pump, the other for the hot water cylinder.

I've seen other systems where all that stuff is integrated into a couple of vessels. I imagine as the technology gets more popular here, solutions will be found for people who want smaller, less intrusive systems. I'm just going to box all this in and create storage in the hollow parts. You could put it all in the loft if you wanted.
 

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I've seen other systems where all that stuff is integrated into a couple of vessels. I imagine as the technology gets more popular here, solutions will be found for people who want smaller, less intrusive systems. I'm just going to box all this in and create storage in the hollow parts. You could put it all in the loft if you wanted.
Ours has the lot, including the hot water cylinder, in one (admittedly chonky) unit. The only external connections are to the heatpump outside and send/return pipes to the 2 underfloor heating zones (and power ofc). It's about the size of a stacked fridge/freezer (maybe not as tall).

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The level of blatant corruption on display in America right now is just mental, not even hiding it anymore, just completely out in the open. I hope (but I doubt) that the next government that comes to power in the USA holds them all to account.


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