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[Scouse]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmeOXYE_axE

 

[Raven]

I was thinking about going for 128gb of ram, PC is a couple of years old and don't really want to do a full upgrade (just upgraded graphics card and PSU)

Oh, RAM is pretty cheap right now, I thought.

Black Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO DDR4 Memory Addressable Light Enhancement Kit

Buy from Scan - Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black Light Enhancement Kit inc. 2x DDR4 Dummy Modules with 10 Addressable RGB LEDs per Stick

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What is this, I don't even...

Edit, and no, RAM is not particularly cheap at the moment, I'll stick to 64gb

 

[Scouse]

I think I've got 16gb of RAM. Maybe 32. I can alt tab between a few games and open browser and excel and powerpoint.

Just don't see the need for a lot of RAM.

Or am I missing something?

 

[Deebs]

This boils down to the age old view of developers back in the day, RAM is cheap fuck optimising our bloatware code. Now RAM is so expensive.

RAM can sometimes be not required especially when running from flash disk as the swapping to disk becomes hardly noticeable if over committed.

 

[Raven]

No, I mean they aren't even RAM, they're blanks. I don't understand what purpose they serve.

 

[Scouse]

Ah. I get it @Raven

Just pretty lights for fanbois.

 

[Gwadien]

Ah. I get it @Raven

Just pretty lights for fanbois.

You take the piss, but I heard that's how @Overdriven got his mrs pregnant.

 

[Scouse]

Did she give birth to an LED?

 

[Gwadien]

Leicestershire council warns of SEND costs 'mission impossible'

The number of Education, Health and Care Plans has risen by 25% in 12 months, the council says.

www.bbc.co.uk

Anyone else find it a bit odd that we're spending up to £30k a week on 'specialist SEN cases' when we're spending £7,460 per academic year on average for non SEN students?

 

[Scouse]

Leicestershire council warns of SEND costs 'mission impossible'

The number of Education, Health and Care Plans has risen by 25% in 12 months, the council says.

www.bbc.co.uk

At the heart of this are parents, carers and children who quite rightly expect councils to provide specialist support

This specoalist support should be funded by parents, above a certain level.

I read an article on the beeb recently where a wpman with a rare inheritable disease was disgusted that her doctor advised her not to have children. She said it was her right to have kids and should be able to expect society picks up the (rather exhorbitant) costs of care for her children.

Her ovaries shpuld be pulped tbh. Plenty of kids to adopt.

 

[Overdriven]

You take the piss, but I heard that's how @Overdriven got his mrs pregnant.

Did she give birth to an LED?

Excuse me. Don't you dare question what we do on weekends or what we gave birth to.

 

[DaGaffer]

This specoalist support should be funded by parents, above a certain level.

I read an article on the beeb recently where a wpman with a rare inheritable disease was disgusted that her doctor advised her not to have children. She said it was her right to have kids and should be able to expect society picks up the (rather exhorbitant) costs of care for her children.

Her ovaries shpuld be pulped tbh. Plenty of kids to adopt.

Edge case. Most people would have no idea their kids are going to need help before they have them. And then you've got the middle ground where they find out while pregnant. You going to open that particular can of worms?

 

[Scouse]

Edge case. Most people would have no idea their kids are going to need help before they have them. And then you've got the middle ground where they find out while pregnant. You going to open that particular can of worms?

I think, given recent political history, that can is already open.

Unless we want to fundamentally change our economic model (which I've been told repeatedly is not on the table) then we can't afford it. So, for me, it's down to parents funding the gap, if they can. If not, their spakker should go wanting - because whilst we should absolutely be doing what we can to help those with disabilities - their misfortune shouldn't hold every able bodied/minded kid back. Or, indeed, the rest of the country.



And apparently SEN cases are up 180,000 since 2018. If we call it 15k extra, that's 2.7 billion per year.

In other news, more than 50% of kids being born in blighty are not born completely naturally - some form of intervention is needed. A lot of that could well be due to the fact that we're so morbidly unhealthy - there is documentary evidence that parental health can harm children. That and our disgusting environment.

Just had a look, we've spent an additional 4 billion - not 2.7 billion. SEN are 5% of pupils, taking up 20% of the education budget.

Why not spend some of that on trying to fix our environment so we don't produce a rapidly increasing number of unhealthy kids?


Edit: I'm just speculating / thinking here. If I had to come up with actual policy, I may be more considered

 

[Jupitus]

I think, given recent political history, that can is already open.

Unless we want to fundamentally change our economic model (which I've been told repeatedly is not on the table) then we can't afford it. So, for me, it's down to parents funding the gap, if they can. If not, their spakker should go wanting - because whilst we should absolutely be doing what we can to help those with disabilities - their misfortune shouldn't hold every able bodied/minded kid back. Or, indeed, the rest of the country.

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And apparently SEN cases are up 180,000 since 2018. If we call it 15k extra, that's 2.7 billion per year.

In other news, more than 50% of kids being born in blighty are not born completely naturally - some form of intervention is needed. A lot of that could well be due to the fact that we're so morbidly unhealthy - there is documentary evidence that parental health can harm children. That and our disgusting environment.

Just had a look, we've spent an additional 4 billion - not 2.7 billion. SEN are 5% of pupils, taking up 20% of the education budget.

Why not spend some of that on trying to fix our environment so we don't produce a rapidly increasing number of unhealthy kids?


Edit: I'm just speculating / thinking here. If I had to come up with actual policy, I may be more considered

Call my grandson a 'spakker' again and I'll be using my mod tools, twat.

 

[Scouse]

Call my grandson a 'spakker' again and I'll be using my mod tools, twat.

Sorry Jup. I don't mean anything by it other than a desire to not sugar-coat anything or hide meaning behind 'kind' language.

I have severely disabled people in my family, and with my close friends. I know they wouldn't like to hear the words and I don't use it around them.

 

[Jupitus]

Sorry Jup. I don't mean anything by it other than a desire to not sugar-coat anything or hide meaning behind 'kind' language.

I have severely disabled people in my family, and with my close friends. I know they wouldn't like to hear the words and I don't use it around them.

Accepted.

 

[Raven]

Quick +1 for Ankar, and their customer support.

Bought an absurdly expensive power bank from them in June, it now refuses to charge. They are sending a replacement.

 

[DaGaffer]

I think, given recent political history, that can is already open.

What does that mean? Do you really envisage a situation in the UK where, say, a woman gets an amniocenteses and finds her foetus is Downs, that the next words out of the doctor's mouth are "oh yeah just so you know, if you keep it you're paying for it's healthcare and education"? Really?

Unless we want to fundamentally change our economic model (which I've been told repeatedly is not on the table) then we can't afford it. So, for me, it's down to parents funding the gap, if they can. If not, their spakker should go wanting - because whilst we should absolutely be doing what we can to help those with disabilities - their misfortune shouldn't hold every able bodied/minded kid back. Or, indeed, the rest of the country.

Thank you Mr. Gradgrind. What is happening is the net for diagnosable conditions is widening, and hence the help needed for them. Most of the SEN spend is going on Autism supports and areas like dyslexia, dyspraxia etc. But here's the thing, support "high functioning" autistic kids early (for example) and they will more often than not end up as independent adults capable of real jobs and contribution to the economy. Let them rot, as you're advocating, takes them out of the work pool and will probably end up costing more in welfare in the long run,

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And apparently SEN cases are up 180,000 since 2018. If we call it 15k extra, that's 2.7 billion per year.

This is the problem, it's not what needs to be done, it's how it's being done that's wasteful, and where it's sourced, but the problem doesn't just magically go away because it costs money, but thinking it can just be left to the parents would have much worse outcomes overall, up to and including infanticide.

In other news, more than 50% of kids being born in blighty are not born completely naturally - some form of intervention is needed. A lot of that could well be due to the fact that we're so morbidly unhealthy - there is documentary evidence that parental health can harm children. That and our disgusting environment.

Yeah that's not what's going on. If you have better technology, then you'll use "medical interventions" more frequently. Most of this is just drugs and epidurals. And it's because women having babies are older and that's because they can't afford to have kids younger or put it off because of careers. Welcome to unintended consequences. Note what's missing from the study though; the overall number of births continues to decline; only one year in the last decade has seen the birthrate go up in the UK. So 50% plus is a giant "so what". Are more actual women getting medical interventions?

Just had a look, we've spent an additional 4 billion - not 2.7 billion. SEN are 5% of pupils, taking up 20% of the education budget.

Of course they are. This is basic pareto stuff, and unless you've gone full Nazi and want to kill everyone not perfect, this is an inevitable outcome of modern societial norms. Maybe we should go full Spartan and leave newborns on a hill to see if they're tough enough? That work for you?

Why not spend some of that on trying to fix our environment so we don't produce a rapidly increasing number of unhealthy kids?


Edit: I'm just speculating / thinking here. If I had to come up with actual policy, I may be more considered

Yeah, maybe actually think it through for five minutes.

 

[Gwadien]

A good chunk of those non ehcpers will be on the waiting list too.

 

[DaGaffer]

A good chunk of those non ehcpers will be on the waiting list too.

Some, but not most. You surely know this from your own classrooms?

 

[Gwadien]

Some, but not most. You surely know this from your own classrooms?

My council is Leicestershire, so yeah - it's probably not representative for the rest of the country.

What I can tell you is that it's baffling to see kids who have serious issues not have EHCPs yet, but some kids that come from more... knowledgeable backgrounds do, when their kids needs seem much less.

Not implying that money is a factor here, but knowing your rights/being educated certainly is.

 

[DaGaffer]

My council is Leicestershire, so yeah - it's probably not representative for the rest of the country.

What I can tell you is that it's baffling to see kids who have serious issues not have EHCPs yet, but some kids that come from more... knowledgeable backgrounds do, when their kids needs seem much less.

Not implying that money is a factor here, but knowing your rights/being educated certainly is.

Are you saying what I think you're saying about Leicestershire? Maybe also applies to the West Midlands and West Yorkshire?

Oh and I'm sure you're correct about people who know how to navigate the system and those who don't.

 

[Gwadien]

Are you saying what I think you're saying about Leicestershire? Maybe also applies to the West Midlands and West Yorkshire?

Oh and I'm sure you're correct about people who know how to navigate the system and those who don't.

*glare intensifies*

Leicestershire is very white (if this is what you mean?) Lots of white-city people do some white-flight from the pesky non-white people, hence why it's a reform council.

 

[Raven]

We've got Deform, too. They have already scrapped anything that sounds like net-zero.

 

[DaGaffer]

*glare intensifies*

Leicestershire is very white (if this is what you mean?) Lots of white-city people do some white-flight from the pesky non-white people, hence why it's a reform council.

I don't seem to have a "raised eyebrow" emoji

 

[Gwadien]

I don't seem to have a "raised eyebrow" emoji

Yeah, I think our telepathy is failing us.

 

[Overdriven]

I don't seem to have a "raised eyebrow" emoji

🤨

 

[Scouse]

Yeah, maybe actually think it through for five minutes.

Jeezuz Gaff. It's a discussion forum, not a policy advertising board. Chill the fuck out!

I'm throwing ideas, not saying kill kids. I'd have come back to you but you seem to have gotten really angry recently. Everything OK bro?

 

[Scouse]

Leicestershire is very white

No. No it isn't.

It's about 30% ethnic minorities against a UK average of about 18%.

Not that I really care either way - just want to be factual

 

[Gwadien]

No. No it isn't.

It's about 30% ethnic minorities against a UK average of about 18%.

Not that I really care either way - just want to be factual

Sure if you include suburban areas that really should be a part of the city.

I'm talking more about surrounding towns and villages.