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[Gwadien]

I'd be pulling him up on that's not what he said @Gwadien. Disliking Islam isn't the same as calling all muslims, including babies born in the UK, invading racist homophobes.

It's his logic that I do not understand.

Liberals are restricting and controlling so we need to stop that, by getting a type of Government in that is going to tell you what religion you can follow?

I genuinely believe that he wants a Nazi type Government - where life is fucking amazing if you're white and a native but it's going to be awful if you're not, it's the only approach I can think of.

 

[Wij]

It's his logic that I do not understand.

Liberals are restricting and controlling so we need to stop that, by getting a type of Government in that is going to tell you what religion you can follow?

I genuinely believe that he wants a Nazi type Government - where life is fucking amazing if you're white and a native but it's going to be awful if you're not, it's the only approach I can think of.

It's only bad when they are restricting freedoms that you personally like. If you wouldn't exercise those choices yourself then crack the fuck down. Don't care. It's all about what I like, personally.

Simples.

 

[Gwadien]

It's only bad when they are restricting freedoms that you personally like. If you wouldn't exercise those choices yourself then crack the fuck down. Don't care. It's all about what I like, personally.

Simples.

You mean anything you don't understand?

 

[Wij]

You mean anything you don't understand?

Oh yes. Anything I don’t understand can fuck off back to bongo bongo land.

 

[Scouse]

Oh yes. Anything I don’t understand can fuck off back to bongo bongo land.

Yes indeed.

Even if they come from Oxford.

 

[Wij]

Yes indeed.

Even if they come from Oxford.

Liberal lies. They may have been born and brought up in the UK but if they have dark skin or a strange name then they are REALLY from somewhere else.

 

[Scouse]

Fucking liberals.

 

[Job]

Dont understand?
What the fuck is there to understand, I'm not interested in the long history of bullshit for cretins.
Its invented to control..thats all there is to it, whatever rich idiocy they have built around it , is just part of the problem.

 

[Gwadien]

Dont understand?
What the fuck is there to understand, I'm not interested in the long history of bullshit for cretins.
Its invented to control..thats all there is to it, whatever rich idiocy they have built around it , is just part of the problem.

What's invented to control? History?

 

[Scouse]

What the fuck is there to understand

The difference between opposing an ideology (which you'd get my wholehearted support for) and being a racist cunt.

 

[Embattle]

I may not believe in any particular religion but I don't object to someone else believing in it, nor do I belittle it or them.

 

[Job]

Well I do and would like to belittle them..but depending on how big their gang is, there are consequences.

I could rip the shit out of the Moonies with few problems..but if I did the same about Islam it would be a hate crime.
Or the classic causing offence and alarm.

 

[Scouse]

I may not believe in any particular religion but I don't object to someone else believing in it, nor do I belittle it or them.

Nothing wrong with belittling an ideology if it's fucking nonsense. But not actively belittling the person themselves. They may be so wrapped up in the ideology that they take offence, but that can't be helped.

 

[Gwadien]

Well I do and would like to belittle them..but depending on how big their gang is, there are consequences.

I could rip the shit out of the Moonies with few problems..but if I did the same about Islam it would be a hate crime.
Or the classic causing offence and alarm.

I don't think you realise how much you have in common with Bin Laden.

 

[Embattle]

Nothing wrong with belittling an ideology if it's fucking nonsense. But not actively belittling the person themselves. They may be so wrapped up in the ideology that they take offence, but that can't be helped.

Personally I still wouldn't belittle it, although that wouldn't stop me from criticising it if I feel it is warranted.

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[Embattle]

Personal well-being in the UK - Office for National Statistics

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[Lamp]

 

[Job]

Thanks for ruining Christmas.

 

[Job]

Hmmm..I wonder what the motivation is here.
One-third of 18-year-old university applicants get unconditional offer

 

[Ormorof]

for what?

unconditional offers for students that in vast majority of cases would attain those grades anyway (and continue to do so) means if they are 1st choice for the student and they are accepted the student must accept or drop out of ucas process (if i remember the wording correct), that means the uni knows roughly how many people it will have on each course well in advance so they can plan ahead. Also means they dont end up in a farcical situation of requiring a certain grade level but allowing people in who dont meet it to put bums on seats (if they planning has been poor)

but hey whole ucas system is a bloated mess anyway, much prefer system here, when you apply you can choose to use either 100% of score from an entrance exam, or have it split between entrance exam and high school grades. The uni must publish their entrance requirements and are audited to make sure they dont let anyone in who does not meet them (education is free, and its expensive to have drop outs), the uni then gets majority of the cost of the education reimbursed by government when students graduate. Gives unis an incentive to get people out the door and into labour market (vs milking student loan company for every drop)

its by no means a perfect system but it does seem to produce one of best educated workforces in the world, and allows finland to compete internationally despite being tiny (education, quality, and research are some of the few things a small economy can compete on vs large global players like US, China, or India)

 

[Job]

Its kind if strange..when youre paying for it that you have to pass a suitability test...tbh, you would think the lender would be doing that.
Thats like turning up to buy a house and the seller saying they wont sell it to you because you dont meet the criteria.
The entire passing your a levels is bolaks anyway.
A far more relevent gauge would be a personality test to see if its likely you would ever make use of the education.

 

[Scouse]

FS @Job. Why do you insist on commenting on stuff that's *so* far outside your realm of experience that you clearly don't even grasp the basics.

The reason you have to pass your A-Levels, and well, and if not - pass an entrance exam - is because if your level of education isn't high enough then you'll not only struggle to grasp the concepts on the course, you'll also drag the other students down because the additional demands you make on tutors will take away that resource from people who've done better.

Universities have for the best part of two decades now been offering foundation years for many courses because the level of education of students coming out of school was so woefully mismatched that they spend the first year getting them up to speed, so there's a level playing field.

 

[Job]

As I said..the lender should be making that decision.
It makes far more sense, the present system is the same as the house seller saying.
Hes a nice guy..lend him the money.

If the people handing out the loans were part of the process, then all those useless degrees would dissapear overnight and people guaranteed to end up in McDonalds would be filtered out.

 

[Gwadien]

So Tommy Robinson has released a video about that Jamal kid in Huddersfield who gets bullied and 'waterboarded' by another kid, also turns out that his sister regularly get bullied too..

Robinson did nothing to condemn the stuff that was on the video, he instead went on the attack and said that Jamal had been in videos bullying other kids, but he provides no evidence and I can't find any evidence anywhere.

It's amazing - he's now attacking school children and failing to condemn the bullying behaviour of the white kids.

£30,000 raised so far for Syrian refugee boy attacked at school in Huddersfield

Oh sorry, he did provide evidence, this constitutes as evidence these days;

Does anyone double dare me to message him claiming that I've been nuclear attacked by the local mosque?

 

[Scouse]

As I said..the lender should be making that decision.
It makes far more sense, the present system is the same as the house seller saying.
Hes a nice guy..lend him the money.

If the people handing out the loans were part of the process, then all those useless degrees would dissapear overnight and people guaranteed to end up in McDonalds would be filtered out.

So, lenders should make kids take exams? How are lenders going to set those exams? Do they have the expertise?

Hey, I know, why don't we just IQ test kids at 5 then cull the ones that don't show the aptitude? You know, the sort that end up as plumbers?

 

[Gwadien]

Hmmm..I wonder what the motivation is here.
One-third of 18-year-old university applicants get unconditional offer

Money is the only motivation.

Thanks Tories for giving Unis ridiculous amounts of tax payers money.

 

[Scouse]

Money is the only motivation.

Thanks Tories for giving Unis ridiculous amounts of tax payers money.

The minute that education was turned into a market real outcomes became less important and wholistic education became a secondary consideration.

Education is necessarily expensive. Everybody learns differently. The minute we had a one-size-fits-all market and competition for funding then the niche areas that are so important (culturally and intellectually) became even more devalued too.

Now record numbers of people are graduating with first class honours degrees - because, like with GCSEs, standards are slipping because measurable quantity of "result" is what matters, not quality of education and thought.

 

[Bodhi]

Money is the only motivation.

Thanks Tories for giving Unis ridiculous amounts of tax payers money.

Which, to be fair, has resulted in much better funding for Universities and better standard of courses. And all the student has to pay in return in a 9% Graduate Tax until they are either 55 or paid it off, and only if they're earning above a certain amount. So it's a great investment for proper courses like STEM, Medicine, History etc. It's also helped the increase in nonsense degrees like Gender or Media Studies, that give the graduate an expensive fast track to the dole queue, but that's more down to the late 90's early 00's push to get everyone to go to uni.