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IKEA is the shop I hate going to more than any other, but you have to be pretty determined not to use the place. We have IKEA furniture and storage in the kids’ playroom and my son’s bedroom because it will only be needed for a few years before it gets replaced, and IKEA is perfect for that.

Anything that you need to last more than 3 years, go somewhere else.

I find that in IKEA you get what you pay for, whereas from other places it can be unclear if it costs more because it's higher quality or just because its not IKEA

Have some IKEA stuff thats lasted way longer than i expected but those cheap €5 tables made of old newspapers are perfect for kids
 

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Got to be honest, I find it irritating. Its really easy to slip into the view "oh its only mythology, so it doesn't really matter" (and there are millions of counter-examples of whitewashing, Gods of Egypt being an obvious recent example), but with the BBC they actually have a duty to "Educate, Entertain and Inform", and by implying Greek legendary characters are sub-Saharan Africans, they're failing in that duty. Apart from anything else, if they don't want to cast Anglo actors, how about picking people who actually look Greek or Turkish?

If you want to do mythology with black actors, do black mythology. American Gods does it incredibly well and appropriately to the story, rather than scoring cheap diversity points.
Agree, just that some artistic license usually went unchallenged. Black Othello etc. Now we live in age when everything seems to upset someone.
 

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Agree, just that some artistic license usually went unchallenged. Black Othello etc. Now we live in age when everything seems to upset someone.

Unfortunately it’s very difficult to avoid the conclusion that there is an “inclusion agenda” in the BBC and elsewhere, but it’s being applied in a really lazy and tone-deaf way.

There was an article in the Graun a few weeks ago about research done by the BFI about the lack of black actors getting roles in U.K. film and TV. It was interesting because the BFI showed all their source data, down to types of roles, genres etc. but there were two problems; the narrative, which complained about the type of roles (“black actors are particularly under-represented in historical dramas”, “black actors get a disproportionate number of roles playing criminals” etc. Well, duh.), and second, when you actually bothered to compare the number of black actors to the population (which the stats failed to do), you suddenly realise that black actors are comfortably over-represented compared to population at large, making the whole analysis highly suspect.

It’s also a phenomenon that’s quite selective in its racial agenda. It’s concentrated on black actors rather than say, Asians (like the whole “Black James Bond” thing - surely an Asian James Bond is more likely if James Bond is just a code name?), which seems to be bleed over from American racial concerns rather than British ones. You can also see this in the monolithic way Americans treat racial groups in the first place, “African” is one group “Asian” is another etc. which leads to stupid crap like idiots getting upset about Tilda Swinton in Doctor Strange and suggesting a bunch of Koreans, Japanese, and worse, Chinese actors to play a comic book character who was originally Tibetan.

I’m more than happy to have minority actors playing roles where skin colour doesn’t matter or is appropriate to the plot, but shoehorning minority actors into roles for the sake of it to look “woke” is bullshit, especially in historical works. Yes, there’s been whitewashing in the other direction, but that’s not an excuse.
 

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Its funny how Ikea started off really top end with very high prices, then it went cheap with the same stuff.
 

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Its funny how Ikea started off really top end with very high prices, then it went cheap with the same stuff.

How old are you @Job? I don’t remember Ikea ever being expensive; I bought stuff from there in my 20s because it was so cheap. And I’m fucking ancient.
 

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I think he's confusing it with some items from the early Ikea days that has become iconic, and therefore, expensive (on the second hand market)
 

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How old are you @Job? I don’t remember Ikea ever being expensive; I bought stuff from there in my 20s because it was so cheap. And I’m fucking ancient.
I am sure the guy who just died ethos was for good furniture affordable to people or smething
 

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No..when they first opened all the stuff was pretty expensive, that didnt work, so they dropped the prices and went for volume...which is why Ikea is like a football stadium at the weekends.


When the first UK store opened in 1987 (the company is celebrating its 30th British birthday) the classic "Lack" coffee table retailed at £18. Today, three decades on, that same table costs £14.
 

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When the first UK store opened in 1987 (the company is celebrating its 30th British birthday) the classic "Lack" coffee table retailed at £18. Today, three decades on, that same table costs £14.
That's just economies of scale and manufacturing. Even then £18 was cheap shit.
 

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A gallon of petrol was 1.50 in 1987.
18 quid was expensive for a small coffee table.
 

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Jesus christ
The misdus has booked a week in Marbella.
This is our third foreign holiday this year and Im bored shitless with planes, hire cars and shite overpriced food.
I fucking hate flying and tbh Id rather stay at home and watch the grass grow.
 

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On the plus side, I've hired a car for the five days for a grand sum, including full insurance, of 34 quid.
 

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Hedge fund manager on Tesla.

“As a reality check, Tesla is worth twice as much as Ford [estimate of the enterprise value of both companies], yet Ford F, +0.00% made 6 million cars last year at a $7.6 billion profit while Tesla made 100,000 cars at a $2 billion loss,” Thompson said. “Further, Ford has $12 billion in cash held for ‘a rainy day’ while Tesla will likely run out of money in the next 3 months. I’ve never seen anything so absurd in my career.”
 

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Hedge fund manager on Tesla.

“As a reality check, Tesla is worth twice as much as Ford [estimate of the enterprise value of both companies], yet Ford F, +0.00% made 6 million cars last year at a $7.6 billion profit while Tesla made 100,000 cars at a $2 billion loss,” Thompson said. “Further, Ford has $12 billion in cash held for ‘a rainy day’ while Tesla will likely run out of money in the next 3 months. I’ve never seen anything so absurd in my career.”

That's just how modern businesses operate, and it'll sting us in the arse again.

Amazon has never made a profit as a business; they routinely sell popular things for a loss in order to eliminate competition. As a result investors want to invest in Amazon, not the competition they're wiping out.
 

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That's just how modern businesses operate, and it'll sting us in the arse again.

Amazon has never made a profit as a business; they routinely sell popular things for a loss in order to eliminate competition. As a result investors want to invest in Amazon, not the competition they're wiping out.

The difference between Amazon and Tesla (ignoring the fact that Amazon is actually profitable) is that Amazon reinvests from its absolutely massive turnover, Tesla is burning investor cash. Ultimately the car business will be divested (it’s the battery business that Musk ultimately cares about) and Musk will concentrate on Space X
 

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Ikea was and has always been cheap end of the market. But they do make exceedingly good meatballs!
 

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The difference between Amazon and Tesla (ignoring the fact that Amazon is actually profitable) is that Amazon reinvests from its absolutely massive turnover, Tesla is burning investor cash. Ultimately the car business will be divested (it’s the battery business that Musk ultimately cares about) and Musk will concentrate on Space X
And the death tube sometimes referred to as Hyperloop! :)
 

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