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georgie

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I don't know how big the S7 is but I've got a 5.5 inch screen on mine and it goes in my pocket.
 

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I don't know how big the S7 is but I've got a 5.5 inch screen on mine and it goes in my pocket.
It's 5.7". I've got the Note 3 which is practically identical in dimensions and weight to the 7 (the 7 is a teeny bit narrower and taller) and even with a case on it goes in my pocket easily.
 

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Oh, the way I read it was they were some sort of cross between a phone and a tablet.
 

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Explain this to me.

Samsungs new phone has obvious spontaneous fire problems, so they stopped both selling and producing it. And in response Samsungs stocks took a dive?

Why are shareholders punishing companies simply for being serious about their product?
 

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Explain this to me.

Samsungs new phone has obvious spontaneous fire problems, so they stopped both selling and producing it. And in response Samsungs stocks took a dive?

Why are shareholders punishing companies simply for being serious about their product?

Wow, I think this is more or less a perfect example of why stocks and shares are clearly inherently broken.

If business loses money over making a faulty product then it's right for their stocks to dive, more than anything out there tbh - more than theories over brexit for instance.
 

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Explain this to me.

Samsungs new phone has obvious spontaneous fire problems, so they stopped both selling and producing it. And in response Samsungs stocks took a dive?

Why are shareholders punishing companies simply for being serious about their product?

Because it may put people off buying other Samsung devices for fear they will blow up as well*. After the first recall I was firmly of the opinion that it was a niche phone and the story wouldn't get much beyond the tech press; but by fucking up the second recall, Samsung have made it into a mainstream story; hence the share price hit.

(*It doesn't matter that other Samsung phones are probably perfectly safe, the reputational damage bleeds out anyway)
 

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Because it may put people off buying other Samsung devices for fear they will blow up as well*. After the first recall I was firmly of the opinion that it was a niche phone and the story wouldn't get much beyond the tech press; but by fucking up the second recall, Samsung have made it into a mainstream story; hence the share price hit.

(*It doesn't matter that other Samsung phones are probably perfectly safe, the reputational damage bleeds out anyway)
They doubly shot themselves in the foot after the second recall. Firstly by not reacting as swiftly as they had done for the first one and secondly by accidentally sending out an internal message to one of the affected users asking if they should bother trying to "slow him down".
 

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Yup and it has been for about 5 years since the original Note came out. This "wahhh what are they even for" conversation was done to death at about the same time...
 

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I think people need to stop blaming the phone, when its the battery at fault...li.ion.batteries of every type of quality and there doesn't seem to be the correct amount of safety concern to their use.
One nearly set fire to a Dreamliner last year...we all have a phone in our pocket that could burn a hole in your leg at any moment.
The strive for mah has pushed aside safety concerns.
This will probably be the turning point.
 

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I think people need to stop blaming the phone, when its the battery at fault...li.ion.batteries of every type of quality and there doesn't seem to be the correct amount of safety concern to their use.
One nearly set fire to a Dreamliner last year...we all have a phone in our pocket that could burn a hole in your leg at any moment.
The strive for mah has pushed aside safety concerns.
This will probably be the turning point.

Wow, you should go and work for Samsung. I'm sure they'll appreciate your highly detailed analysis of exactly what's wrong with their phones, when it appears that even they're not sure what the issue is.

Good work!
 

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I have never had a phone catch fire in my pocket and neither has my wife.
 

Job

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Er I think you need to look up safety concerns for lithium batteries.
 

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Why? Neurotic weirdos on the internet is not where I get my safety advice.
 

caLLous

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I went to see this guy last night. Incredible. He really knows how to piano.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVBuj5sRtLA

Jelly. I'd love to see him live. I remember posting one of his early "rock up at a public piano" videos...
I've watched a load of these recently but this has to be the best...


...and also an amazing Italian pianist as well...
This guy too... Holy shit.



Never mind all your classical nonsense, jazz and blues (specifically boogie-woogie) are the best things you can do with a piano.
 

Scouse

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Never mind all your classical nonsense, jazz and blues (specifically boogie-woogie) are the best things you can do with a piano.
Disagree. Whilst I do properly love it - notice that effectively the same video has been posted three times.

Left hand is the same, right hand hits a few patterns. Makes you feel one way - bouncy and happy (and there's nowt wrong with that). It's also relatively easy to play, eh @Lamp?

On the other hand, for different emotional range:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS5LRRsNYZk


or mad skillz


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zucBfXpCA6s


or for orchestra as a sideshow:


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEGOihjqO9w


The second I imagine is how @Lamp plays :)
 

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Nah. Shareholders are punishing samsung because they recalled their phones, said they were OK, released more, they went wrong and then up until the Monday night before the Tuesday recall Samsung was still in denial.

Shareholders are punishing Samsung for a number of reasons but primarily because Samsung doesn't know what it's bloody doing.
 

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I don't think it's anyone punishing anyone. It is simply that Samsung shares are being sold more than they are being bought. Most of the shares are probably owned by investment trusts who wil want to unload shares in the short term that will effect their overall value. It is unlikely that Samsung will go bust because of this and so at some point the value will hit a level where investors will start to buy again, and the price will come back up, there is no emotional aspect to share buying or selling for these investors.
 

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