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[old.user4556]

A bike and an Apple Mac?

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[Gwadien]

I can't get my head around this, whatever your thoughts and no doubt culling is necessary, and the money helps, but standing over the dead carcasses with your instakill from a safe distance rifle in hand and considering the worldwide revulsion and stain on your character...why?

Football star hits back at outrage as photos emerge showing him posing with DEAD animals

Are you saying why would you take the photo or why would you care if they killed the animals?

 

[Moriath]

Somepeople like that. More why put it on twitter i guess

 

[Job]

Why you would take the photo, the animals are being culled legitimately, but gloating over it is so crass...yeah right mate, you've got a rifle and you get a kick out of killing things...keep it to yourself dickwad.

 

[Gwadien]

Why you would take the photo, the animals are being culled legitimately, but gloating over it is so crass...yeah right mate, you've got a rifle and you get a kick out of killing things...keep it to yourself dickwad.

Because we're undergoing a change in views on animal welfare and such as we speak.

It explains why people kick off when an American Dentist is seen with a dead lion, but we let our little lions get killed by our aristocracy

 

[DaGaffer]

Why you would take the photo, the animals are being culled legitimately, but gloating over it is so crass...yeah right mate, you've got a rifle and you get a kick out of killing things...keep it to yourself dickwad.

Different cultural values. Eastern Europeans have different views about killing animals. When my folks lived in Cyprus the locals were out every weekend annihilating the local wildlife. Treated their dogs like crap as well.

 

[Moriath]

Different cultural values. Eastern Europeans have different views about killing animals. When my folks lived in Cyprus the locals were out every weekend annihilating the local wildlife. Treated their dogs like crap as well.

The french go out shoot wild boar. The americans go hunting a lot. Not much to go hunting in the majority of the uk. Just deer.

 

[Gwadien]

and why do they need culling anyway?

Lion Decline Map - Big Cats Initiative -- National Geographic

His only defence was the economic benefit to the industry.

 

[DaGaffer]

The french go out shoot wild boar. The americans go hunting a lot. Not much to go hunting in the majority of the uk. Just deer.

There's plenty to hunt in the UK, (rabbits, birds, foxes, vermin) its just no longer regarded as acceptable to do it. Which is a bit stupid, and has more to do with class than ethics in the UK. Which is why farmers just quietly get on with it without drawing attention to it.

 

[Raven]

It is perfectly acceptable to hunt in the UK, many land owners and farmers encourage it to help remove pests.

Hunting with dogs is a different matter entirely and should and is banned. Not a lot wrong with rifle hunting when done by someone who knows what they are doing. I intend to hunt rabbit and pigeon when I am good enough with my rifle, I am not a good enough shot atm though.

The only people who have a problem with it are townies who think their artisan ham grows on trees.

 

[Tom]

I'm not sure it's regarded as unacceptable. There's loads of hunting around here, you're forever hearing the crack of a shotgun as another rabbit is dispatched. I think most people are oblivious to it.

For me, the uproar over foxhunting seems to be more about class than animal welfare. A lot of fuss is kicked up over an orange dog, but not so much over regulations that state you can keep nine chickens per square metre. And don't even get me started on caged hens...

 

[Job]

Looks like the milks gone bad.

 

[Bodhi]

I'm not sure it's regarded as unacceptable. There's loads of hunting around here, you're forever hearing the crack of a shotgun as another rabbit is dispatched. I think most people are oblivious to it.

For me, the uproar over foxhunting seems to be more about class than animal welfare. A lot of fuss is kicked up over an orange dog, but not so much over regulations that state you can keep nine chickens per square metre. And don't even get me started on caged hens...

Bang on, the uproar is less about foxy woxy getting killed, more about what those "toffs" in the country get up to.

Ime it's mostly farmers getting pissed off with their free range chickens getting ripped to shreds by a fox to feel like they're doing something to help. Most hunts (which don't occur in any way shape or form) round us are that blind drunk by the time they actually get on the horse they've forgotten what a fox looks like, never mind catch one. Don't think I've seen so much furore over something that happens so little.

 

[Gwadien]

So to be the devils advocate... (Just to point out, I don't really give much of a fuck about fox hunting - it was more of a point of hypocrisy)

By saying that it's fine for Farmers to go out shoot animals to protect their farms - IE economic benefit. Surely it's fine for people to go out and shoot large animals else where, because again - it contributes to their respective economies?

I mean, if we're going to abuse our power of being at the top of the food chain, why should we condemn people who hunt lions and such? Because they're endangered?

I appreciate that animals like foxes are increasing in population, but when we've already wiped out the animals that we directly hampered in the past and consequently have wiped out completely because we deemed them unfavourable. (whereas foxes have benefited from our existence.)

I think it's a very Western thing - 'Yeah, we did this a few years ago, it was a really bad idea, we're still reaping the benefits of doing these really bad things, but you guys shouldn't do it!'

 

[Tom]

I believe big game hunting is allowed in those countries because it pays a lot of money, money which is used to pay for other conservation efforts. So long as they're only shooting unendangered species then I don't have a problem with it, although it isn't something I'd ever do myself. I don't think I'd even shoot a rabbit or squirrel, not unless I was going to cook it later on.

The British countryside is largely bereft of interesting wildlife, we've killed it all off. I'm all for reintroducing wolves in Scotland (imagine the shots @Big G could get) and Northumberland, eliminating grey squirrels completely, bringing beavers back, all kinds of stuff. Here's a list of animals that should be in this country, which aren't (or are extremely rare):

* Dalmatian pelican
* Bluefin tuna
* Lynx
* Boar
* Common crane
* Eagle owl
* Pine marten
* Goshawk
* Night heron
* Sturgeon
* White stork

Oh and the other day I stopped (on the bike) to let two ducks cross a road to get to the canal. A woman in an oncoming car saw my hand signal, saw the ducks, and just blasted through anyway. Fuck people like that.

 

[Gwadien]

Relevant

 

[Shagrat]

Good, fucking grey squirrel immigrants, coming here, stealing our nuts

 

[Raven]

My cat, doing its job.

 

[Edmond]

View attachment 32288 View attachment 32285 My cat, doing its job.

Ahh, protecting that squirrel whilst it takes a nap, bless

 

[Raven]

Yeah

 

[Cadelin]

It's funny, the whole gender identity "movement" is the point where I find my tolerance levels reaching their limits; I don't give a fuck about your race, or sexuality, but I find Trans people quite annoying. I think it's because the bar to accommodate Trans people takes more effort...I dunno, it's a bunch of stuff that just makes me irritated in ways I never have been about any other identity issue.

I don't have any issue with trans people, if you are born one gender but see yourself the other. These people normally make a significant effort to look like the gender they see themselves as, so I agree it makes it easy to accommodate them.

What I really don't get are the people who see themselves as some third gender. As far as I am concerned gender should only affect which toilet you use. Can you use a urinal comfortably? Yes, you're a man, no, queue with the ladies. Why is any other label needed?

 

[Moriath]

Had squirrels in my loft once pain in the arse beat one with a metal pipe.

Rabbits, squirrels , rats , vermin etc not the same as proper hunting . Which only toffs partake much in the uk, fowl. With the culling of deer and badgers now.

Not like the common folk going deer hunting or boar hunting in other countries.

Hunting prey animals seems to be more acceptable than apex predators.

And @DaGaffer the rest of what you pointed put are classed as vermin. I was talking those above that level.

 

[Scouse]

Why is any other label needed?

Because some people need it. It's massively cultural anyway, and honestly, I give zero fucks about how anyone wants to see themselves. Live and let live


As for grey squirrels, I like 'em, they've been here for so long now that they're part of these isles. But I agree completely with the rest of @Tom's post.

@Raven's cat's cool (looks almost identical to how mine was) but I always felt a tinge of regret when mine killed other animals. Domestic cat ownership in the UK is a serious ecological problem.

 

[CorNokZ]

Wife and I are both ill. She is currently using the TV to watch Grey's Anatomy, but has opened up to binge watching Game of Thrones afterwards in order for me to recap before the new season lands. I know she might be playing me, but I am willing to take the chance.

Wish me luck

 

[Scouse]

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Viwwetf0gU

 

[TdC]

that high-pitched giggle that just shouts "this is perfectly safe"

 

[CorNokZ]

This was me the entire day in front of the tv after I realised my gf had tricked me

Photos of Miserable Men Trapped In Shopping Hell

 

[Raven]

Because some people need it. It's massively cultural anyway, and honestly, I give zero fucks about how anyone wants to see themselves. Live and let live


As for grey squirrels, I like 'em, they've been here for so long now that they're part of these isles. But I agree completely with the rest of @Tom's post.

@Raven's cat's cool (looks almost identical to how mine was) but I always felt a tinge of regret when mine killed other animals. Domestic cat ownership in the UK is a serious ecological problem.

Would you believe he has cost £15,000 over the last 2 years? Stomach cancer followed by pneumonia, hit by a car, fights with foxes. 7kilos of killing machine. We got him as a feral born at work, got him just as he turned at 7-8 weeks. He won't go anywhere near humans, except me. He is OK with the wife but won't let her pick him up.

He kills rabbits mostly, in the summer we pretty much have no need to feed him. He doesn't kill for sport, he kills to eat. That was the first and only time I have seen him with a squirrel, he may well have taken more when I was at work etc but no way to know. I wasn't keen on the live mouse dropped on me at 3am today but yeah, he take mice too, never hurts them just delivers. Never seen him play with an animal.

Domestic cats do not have an adverse effect on natural wildlife, they are however an easy target for people who would like to hide human impact, aggressive house building, aggressive farming techniques and whatnot that do damage British wildlife and the delicate ecosystems that we have.

If anything domestic cats make up for the natural predators that have been removed by man, mostly birds of prey. All wildlife needs a predator, from sparrow to deer, man has taken on the job of the wolf, domestic cats have taken on the job of the hawk.

As for squirrels I kind of agree, I think its got to the point that there are so few reds left that there is nothing we can do about it, I would rather see greys than no squirrels at all.

 

[Ormorof]

Still reds in isle of Wight isnt there? Lots of reds in Finland but greys creeping in here too

 

[Scouse]

Anglesey is grey squirrel free and full of the reds.