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[rynnor]

I am still not convinced it is safe overall, regardless of contamination. Aren't they putting some fairly hefty holes into fault lines and whatnot?

Nothing is completely safe - oil production causes a lot of issues but we still need the oil - the same will apply in this case.

 

[Scouse]

that local geology could be the source of the arsenic

It's not just arsenic - it's also strontium and selenium - I simply don't buy that interpretation:

wells that were near fracking sites had levels of arsenic around 18 times higher than areas that did not have gas extraction via this technique

and

drinking wells that exceeded the safety levels were within 3km of a natural gas well, and that these levels got lower and lower the further they sampled from the extraction site

...

Even UK politicians have acknowledged that fracking is not without significant danger of contamination. If anyone thinks otherwise they're simply fooling themselves.

And even if they acknowledge the contamination I think it's a damn shame that the environmental lessons of the past haven't informed their ideas of the future and the kind of future we want.

 

[rynnor]

Even UK politicians have acknowledged that fracking is not without significant danger of contamination. If anyone thinks otherwise they're simply fooling themselves.

I already stated it as an almost certainty at some point if we get thousands of wells - of course the groundwater gets contaminated a lot by landfills and chemical escapes/releases so it may not be significant.

I cant see them using Arsenic and the other heavy metals in the fracking fluid (no point) so even if its associated with fracking the source is going to be the local geology.

 

[Scouse]

even if its associated with fracking the source is going to be the local geology.

To be honest, who cares what the source is, if the contamination happens?

Regardless of source, IF "fracking" = "groundwater contamination" THEN "get fucked"

 

[Chilly]

Gas prices already tanked in the US a few years ago (because of fracking) - not seeing any fall in oil though?

Takes a while for it to filter into the electric car market. That whole market is in it's infancy. As electricity becomes cheaper (maybe) then those cars become more attractive as their battery performance also improves. Alternatives such as hydrogen fuel cells also take advantage of cheap electricity to charge the cells. That tech is being commercialised right now. It might be 10 years before it happens but when you have such a fundamental difference in energy prices, the market will move to take advantage - in all aspects.

Imagine if there was a lorry that cost 25% more to buy but 75% less to run and was operationally as useful as a diesel - every shipping company everywhere would immediately buy as many as they could.

 

[Gwadien]

Hmm, the UK is too small for fracking I suppose, the distance to the next town/village is too small... Can't we frack into Spain from Gibraltar?

 

[rynnor]

To be honest, who cares what the source is, if the contamination happens?

Regardless of source, IF "fracking" = "groundwater contamination" THEN "get fucked"

Job was correct that a lot of stuff already contaminates the groundwater and is filtered out tbh - if the heavy metals were from the geology at that locale then its not logical to think the same problem will occur at a very distant locale.

 

[rynnor]

As electricity becomes cheaper (maybe) then those cars become more attractive

Electricity is only set to head in one direction and that's up

Failure to upgrade nuclear power stations in time + the cost of subsidies for renewables will all push up prices. If the electricity is largely from fossil fuels how is that progress anyway?

 

[Scouse]

the cost of subsidies for renewables

As opposed to the endlessly spiralling subsidies and cleanup costs of nuclear which, for existing plant, already exceeds all of the subsidies for renewables put together?

But I agree with you here:

If the electricity is largely from fossil fuels how is that progress anyway?

 

[soze]

The thing is there is no alternative for nuclear energy. Renewables do not generate nearly enough yet. So building modern cleaner Nuclear Reactors has to be the current plan. Without them energy prices would need to skyrocket and you would go back to needing blackouts. Your benefit spongers would be fine obviously but the working class would be utterly screwed.

 

[rynnor]

The thing is there is no alternative for nuclear energy. Renewables do not generate nearly enough yet. So building modern cleaner Nuclear Reactors has to be the current plan. Without them energy prices would need to skyrocket and you would go back to needing blackouts. Your benefit spongers would be fine obviously but the working class would be utterly screwed.

Renewables are a fine thing but they will never be a huge part of the mix due to unreliability.

Sadly we should have been building new Nuclear power stations about a decade ago and even now there are no really firm plans - the reality is that our electricity will be overwhelmingly generated from gas power plants for the next few decades.

 

[rynnor]

Stephen King re-does The Simpsons Movie

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-23617040

 

[Gwadien]

BREAKING NEWS;

PRINCE GEORGE IS A RASCAL


He's gonna invade bitches.

 

[Raven]

I hope he takes after his great granddad I really do.

 

[Aoami]

#slanegirl

stay classy ireland

 

[BloodOmen]

Mabs creepy sex games finally exposed?!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...inside-PENIS-sexual-adventure-goes-wrong.html

 

[Chilly]

#slanegirl

stay classy ireland

Actually I'm not going to say anything about this since she's 16.

 

[Raven]

Right up Job's street.

 

[rynnor]

Mabs creepy sex games finally exposed?!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/a...inside-PENIS-sexual-adventure-goes-wrong.html

Exhibitionist - he could have just pulled it out himself at home - maybe he couldnt get it up and thought a bit of steel reinforcement was in order

 

[Aoami]

Actually I'm not going to say anything about this since she's 16.

I've heard 22.

 

[Job]

Those videos of burning tapwater have been debunked ages ago, they were the result of methane leaking into water supplies from slurry pits in the householders own farm.
Every time you throw emotion into science the truth goes out the window..all water supplies are contaminated with something and 100x this..1000x times that..they are simply cherry picking ordinary results from water testing.

 

[TdC]

perhaps, but between you and me I'd rather have a windmill in my back yard than a gas well.

 

[TdC]

#slanegirl

stay classy ireland

tbh I'm kind of bummed out I never meet girls like that at festivals....and I go to a lot of festivals :-(

 

[rynnor]

perhaps, but between you and me I'd rather have a windmill in my back yard than a gas well.

I'd love a fracking site if they would give me some of the borehole drillings - as I understand it the geology of North Herts should be suitable for fracking so I may get my wish one day.

 

[Edmond]

tbh I'm kind of bummed out I never meet girls like that at festivals....and I go to a lot of festivals :-(

I think i'm going to start going to festivals more...

 

[TdC]

I'd love a fracking site if they would give me some of the borehole drillings

 

[rynnor]

How did you get my picture

 

[BloodOmen]

 

[Job]

 

[Raven]

I've heard 22.

At secondary school apparently

http://www.independent.ie/irish-new...e-castle-involving-teenage-girl-29510840.html