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[rynnor]

I saw an attractive girl with a big garish multicoloured tattoo on her lower leg the other day and shuddered. She was only in her early twenties and she's going to spend the rest of her life with that thing as the colours break down and washout on an area thats often shown.

Pre-judging her as stupid/a bit of an idiot seems fair to me tbh.

 

[Edmond]

Calling someone a mongoloid, or braindead, for having a particular tattoo makes you lot infinitely worse.

I don't feel i would be called worse if i said that 'Mr Cool Ice' must be some kind of retard to do that to himself, who in thier right mind would think that looks good, what a twat

Also i think the tattoo artists themselves should be more honest with people 'seriously mate, what your asking me to do will look shit, have you really thought it through?'

 

[Raven]

My sister had a Winnie the Pooh tattoo on her belly. Since she has had kids I always complement her on her Picasso tattoo.

 

[DaGaffer]

so whatever you feel is a good tattoo IS a good tattoo.

It really, really isn't. That's just delusional. If its on display, you're making a statement about yourself, whether you like it or not, and more often than not, the statement is I have no imagination/I have no sense of quality control/I'm cheap/I have poor impulse control/I'm easily led (choose one, some or all). There are some amazing tattoos out there, but Sturgeon's Law applies - "90% of everything is crap". This is especially true of tattoos.

Same as with women putting on makeup etc.

Which shows exactly why you're wrong. Badly applied makeup is badly applied. There's not really a "so bad its good" exception for makeup.

Calling someone a mongoloid, or braindead, for having a particular tattoo makes you lot infinitely worse.

Nope, if you insist on advertising your ineptitude, you have to expect a reaction. Not everything is good.

 

[Billargh]

I really don't see the problem with people getting tattoo's based on their interests, be it TV related or otherwise. If it's a big part of your life, go for it.

 

[DaGaffer]

I really don't see the problem with people getting tattoo's based on their interests, be it TV related or otherwise. If it's a big part of your life, go for it.

Or you could just buy a "Han Shot First" T-shirt and spare yourself a great deal of unnecessary pain.

 

[rynnor]

Nope, if you insist on advertising your ineptitude, you have to expect a reaction. Not everything is good.

It's the human version of stonecladding your house...

 

[old.Tohtori]

Which shows exactly why you're wrong. Badly applied makeup is badly applied. There's not really a "so bad its good" exception for makeup.

Meant that it's not done for others, but to make yourself feel good.

If you're being an asshole, or acting dangerous to others then that's a place to judge, but judging someone for what they make themselves feel good, especially over something menial like a tattoo, is a bit much.

Especially since it's judging a book by the cover which is never a good stance. Same exact thing as people agreed on when i said that it's bullcrap saying baldy tattoo blokes are up to no good.

Note that i'm not saying that judging in itself is something wrong, i simply judge your judgement.

 

[Billargh]

 

[DaGaffer]

Meant that it's not done for others, but to make yourself feel good.

If you're being an asshole, or acting dangerous to others then that's a place to judge, but judging someone for what they make themselves feel good, especially over something menial like a tattoo, is a bit much.

Especially since it's judging a book by the cover which is never a good stance. Same exact thing as people agreed on when i said that it's bullcrap saying baldy tattoo blokes are up to no good.

Note that i'm not saying that judging in itself is something wrong, i simply judge your judgement.

Toht; if someone tattoo's "All Coppers Are Bastards" on their forehead, or has those little swallows on their hands, or anything remotely Nazi, they're not just showing you the book cover, they're reading you a pretty large plot synopsis. Tattoos are all about making statements, even if unintentionally. Most of the time, as I said, the statement is usually "I have absolutely zero imagination" (that would cover tramp stamps, little butterflies/hearts/teddy bears what have you on the shoulder or ankle, any "ethnic" armbands, and Chinese or Japanese writing when you don't speak Chinese or Japanese); sorry, you may be a lovely person, but your body art is banal, and you're almost certainly the kind of person who'll probably regret getting a tattoo in the first place.

I don't think its valid to say tattoo's are just about making me feel good; they're too loaded with symbolism, class identifiers and whole bunch of other baggage for anyone but the most desperately naive to believe otherwise.

 

[Raven]

My dad has swallows on his hands from his army boxing days (he boxed for and then trained the paras boxing team). Some of his tattoos are pretty good though and he has a story for each one, he had a gunshot scar on his arm turned into an eye tattoo. He isn't a nazi though...just an utter bellend.

Sailors also have them sometimes to show they are experienced.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Well yes if you tattoo a swastika on your forehead then that's a case where the book cover is clearly an indicator, but if i were to tattoo a seal on my arm then some here might think it's cool(for better lack of term), but it's no different from a butterlfy/teddybear from an outside view. It's hard to know without a story and usually people have one with a tattoo.

 

[DaGaffer]

My dad has swallows on his hands from his army boxing days (he boxed for and then trained the paras boxing team). Some of his tattoos are pretty good though and he has a story for each one, he had a gunshot scar on his arm turned into an eye tattoo. He isn't a nazi though...just an utter bellend.

Sailors also have them sometimes to show they are experienced.

It stopped being a sailor thing a loooong time ago; its pretty exclusively "done bird" these days, especially if its on the webbing between thumb and forefinger.

 

[DaGaffer]

Well yes if you tattoo a swastika on your forehead then that's a case where the book cover is clearly an indicator, but if i were to tattoo a seal on my arm then some here might think it's cool(for better lack of term), but it's no different from a butterlfy/teddybear from an outside view. It's hard to know without a story and usually people have one with a tattoo.

Well it kind of is, you're a bloke for a start. Most of the butterflies and teddy bears are usually found on women, and are usually done with a stencil, which means there might well be a story, but probably not a very interesting one.

A bloke with a seal on their arm would be initially more unusual, so then it comes down to quality. I would imagine its quite hard to do a seal tattoo well; representational art would suck I reckon, so probably something more stylised.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Yeah, guess it all comes down to style in the end. Artform and all, games, movies, not everyone will like it. I know there's people who shouldn't get a tattoo, that much is granted, i just don't think it's so black&white as it was made to sound.

But then again i've never been a fan of insta-judgement, even if that is a bit hypocritical to say as there's probably a few things i shouldn't judge that quickly either.

 

[Scouse]

Actually, I'm split on this. Yes, people can do what the fuck they like to make themselves happy and it's as "valid" an action as you can have. However, they are poking their head over the parapet, so people can criticize as much as they like and that's just as "valid" an action.


And having a swastika on your forehead may not advertise "Nazi". A mate wears a gold chain with a gold swastika. He's indian and it's a peace symbol that he refuses to hide just because we lack the education to learn what it means.

 

[Shagrat]

It stopped being a sailor thing a loooong time ago; its pretty exclusively "done bird" these days, especially if its on the webbing between thumb and forefinger.

Indeed I read a john Irving book a while ago that was set back when tattooing was a "sailor" thing and it's a really interesting read. It's about the son of a tattooist who's travelling across Europe and working with the best tattooists of the time. Amazing how mainstream it's become in such a short space of time.

http://www.amazon.com/Until-Find-You-John-Irving/dp/0345479726

 

[Aoami]

http://i.imgur.com/8HiZ9sr.jpg

 

[Scouse]

Glad the Sunday Sport ended

 

[Aoami]

ive never found out where to get my poisoned minge news from since

 

[megadave]

should be some visible meteor showers tonight in england

 

[Raven]

Death by meteor?

 

[Edmond]

should be some visible meteor showers tonight in england

What time?

 

[rynnor]

Best viewed in the hours before dawn - bloody tiny though and extremely short lived - unless your lucky enough to witness a larger chunk which creates a proper fireball.

 

[Scouse]

should be some visible meteor showers tonight in england

Man, forgot all about that. It's the perseids isn't it. Smeg. The missus is gonna be well miffed 'cause she's in bed and has to be up at 6, but I'm off to the back garden

What time?

Midnight>Dawn.

From the direction of the constellation Perseus, btw

 

[Shagrat]

Me and the kids have been out seen quite a few flashing across the sky, some incredibly bright ones. Saw a load last night as,well.

 

[TdC]

was cloudy here saw one during a clear patch though

 

[Fweddy]

Sure glad I don't live in Sweden right now.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/08/13/ballbiting_fish_chomps_on_swedish_mens_bits/

*crosses legs*

 

[fettoken]

Np if it would have been sharks or anything else. But this; time to avoid the coastal regions.

 

[TdC]

Great White eat 27 delicious Swedes off Swedish beaches - FINE
Ball Chompers infest Swedish lakes - NOT FINE