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[Wij]

View: https://twitter.com/AchillesLastWar/status/1590465206626680832

 

[DaGaffer]

As someone with grandchildren, I thought you'd give more of a shit - boats in the channel? They will see hordes coming through the tunnel crossing...

Internal pressure from a country -> change in politics -> spreading those politics abroad using economic sanctions, it's pretty much the only way.

Telling people to go and protest in China is a bit silly isn't it?

Well, the Channel will be much wider and the tunnel completely flooded by then, so, y'know...silver linings.

 

[Raven]

Mintolas?

Yeah, those are the ones, defunct now.

 

[DaGaffer]

You do realise that if the UK turned off fossil fuel usage tomorrow it would do fuckall to the climate. Absolutely fuckall. The protesters need to get over to China, India and the US if they really want Governments that can impact climate change to listen.

But again COPxx just shows that Governments cannot effectively work together as each will prioritise their own economies over anyone elses.

That argument is done. You show leadership, not point fingers. But "global Britain" is just going to be an asset stripped irrelevance in a few years anyway, so yeah let the Tories frack the place into the sea, it's where you're going to end up anyway, may as well get it over and done with.

 

[Deebs]

As someone with grandchildren, I thought you'd give more of a shit - boats in the channel? They will see hordes coming through the tunnel crossing...

Internal pressure from a country -> change in politics -> spreading those politics abroad using economic sanctions, it's pretty much the only way.

Telling people to go and protest in China is a bit silly isn't it?

Not at all, I am just pointing out reality. If the UK stopped using fossil fuels it would make no impact, well 1%. Also our net usage of fossil fuels has gone down by over 6% this year according to the following:

CO2 Emissions by Country - Worldometer

Carbon Dioxide (CO2) Emissions by Country in the world with Global share of CO2 greenhouse emissions by country

www.worldometers.info

 

[Deebs]

That argument is done. You show leadership, not point fingers. But "global Britain" is just going to be an asset stripped irrelevance in a few years anyway, so yeah let the Tories frack the place into the sea, it's where you're going to end up anyway, may as well get it over and done with.

Until the top 3 CO2 countries start doing something about it the world is being held to ransom by them. According to that website I posted they account for 50% of the emissions between them. Single countries doing their bit will not make a difference and it has been shown that we won't work together, every COPxx has been full of bullshit.

 

[Scouse]

The early naughties wants it's argument back so it can re-bury it @Deebs

 

[DaGaffer]

Until the top 3 CO2 countries start doing something about it the world is being held to ransom by them. According to that website I posted they account for 50% of the emissions between them. Single countries doing their bit will not make a difference and it has been shown that we won't work together, every COPxx has been full of bullshit.

If countries that consume say...Chinese products, mandate that goods can only be imported if they come from net zero factories and can show it; China will accelerate it's decarbonization, but Britain wants to do the opposite of that.

This finger pointing bullshit has to stop.

 

[Gwadien]

If countries that consume say...Chinese products, mandate that goods can only be imported if they come from net zero factories and can show it; China will accelerate it's decarbonization, but Britain wants to do the opposite of that.

Absolutely.

To suggest that your carbon footprint is limited to the imaginary boundaries of your made up country is the biggest pile of bullshit ever.

 

[Embattle]

If countries that consume say...Chinese products, mandate that goods can only be imported if they come from net zero factories and can show it; China will accelerate it's decarbonization, but Britain wants to do the opposite of that.

This finger pointing bullshit has to stop.

I believe the problem with that notion is it goes against WTO rules, hence the EU which I believe has been working on something like that is going no where.

 

[Scouse]

I believe the problem with that notion is it goes against WTO rules, hence the EU which I believe has been working on something like that is going no where.

Who gives a fuck if it goes against WTO rules? If "rules" are a reason that are stopping you from doing the right thing then you change the rules.

Again, it doesn't need agreement - it needs countries to do the right thing. Exactly like @DaGaffer's point above - if some countries aren't doing the right thing then that's no barrier - we can still do it.

 

[Scouse]

I get the "optimistic" @Embattle - but if Brexit was a sovreignity argument - "Great Britain Can Act How It Likes" - then it's a bullshit argument to say we can't.

Like "Raising Environmental Standards" or "Improving stuff the EU rules are holding us back from doing" - we could. But we we're actually not some great power, but a whiny little shit country, so we'll do what we're doing - the wrong things, more of the wrong things and at an accelerated pace because the EU isn't holding us back from being wankers any more.

 

[Scouse]

This is exactly why I hate the anti-free-speech lefties:

David Walliams recorded making derogatory remarks about BGT contestants

Exclusive: Britain’s Got Talent judge made sexually explicit comments about participant, leak shows

www.theguardian.com

Front page - top news story at the Grauniad. His comments are "offensive" apparently (and they'd love to see him kicked off the show).

Now, I find the show offensive myself. Almost as much as I find the desire to regulate language offensive, especially language used in private. But this sort of shit by the leftie press undermines them.

 

[Embattle]

I get the "optimistic" @Embattle - but if Brexit was a sovreignity argument - "Great Britain Can Act How It Likes" - then it's a bullshit argument to say we can't.

Like "Raising Environmental Standards" or "Improving stuff the EU rules are holding us back from doing" - we could. But we we're actually not some great power, but a whiny little shit country, so we'll do what we're doing - the wrong things, more of the wrong things and at an accelerated pace because the EU isn't holding us back from being wankers any more.

I'm in favour of a pollution based import tax, doesn't change the reality it won't work when it looks horns with WTO rules unless those you intend to punish agree to the changes.

 

[Scouse]

Fuck all to do with anyone but us @Embattle - the point in case:

If countries that consume say...Chinese products, mandate that goods can only be imported if they come from net zero factories and can show it; China will accelerate it's decarbonization, but Britain wants to do the opposite of that.

So, we could ban imports of Chinese products unless they can show they come from net zero factories. We could do that. Unilaterally. We have "control of our borders".

Frankly, it'd stop a lot of Chinese tat being imported and consumed by British wankers. I think it's a great idea. And if these businesses wanted access to the valuable British market they could do it, or fuck off.

On top of that, if it's stuff we really need and they refused to sell it to us / we refuse to allow it in, then that creates a local business opportunity in THIS country - of course, meeting our own rules.

Win > Win.

 

[Scouse]

Smoking is back in candy-coloured disguise - and a whole new generation is addicted | Sarah Boseley

Tobacco companies are pouring money into e-cigarettes and making them attractive to teens, says Sarah Boseley, the Guardian’s former health editor

www.theguardian.com

 

[BloodOmen]

So aye, Elon's paid Twitter backfired LOL

 

[Raven]

Uff

KFC apologises after German Kristallnacht promotion

The fast-food chain urged German customers to commemorate the Nazi pogrom with cheesy chicken.

www.bbc.co.uk

The message, heavily criticised for its insensitivity, was later blamed on "an error in our system".

Yeah, they will have to do a bit better than that. "Kristallnacht" doesn't get accidentally put anywhere.

 

[Raven]

It's coming to the time when we have no more WW2 vets left. I remember the last ww1 vet dying.

Capturing war-time memories, before it is too late

Three of the last generation of World War Two veterans share recollections of the deadliest war in history.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[DaGaffer]

I'm in favour of a pollution based import tax, doesn't change the reality it won't work when it looks horns with WTO rules unless those you intend to punish agree to the changes.

Trade Agreements routinely add regulatory standards over and above WTO rules, and there's actually nothing in WTO itself anyway that stops you from restricting imports based on your own criteria, all it says is you can't discriminate by country (so apply stricter standards on one country over another for the same goods).

These issues are all fixable given the will to do so, and ironically post-Brexit Britain has, in theory, more of an opportunity to take a leadership role, but it won't because...Tory cunts.

 

[Scouse]

Expect a "disagree" from @Embattle there @DaGaffer. Just "because".

 

[Scouse]

KFC apologises after German Kristallnacht promotion

The fast-food chain urged German customers to commemorate the Nazi pogrom with cheesy chicken.

www.bbc.co.uk

That's ace

 

[Embattle]

CBAM Precedents: Experts Weigh In

The Scholl Chair solicited feedback from trade law experts on how to think about the CBAM and whether there are precedents to the proposal.

www.csis.org

 

[Raven]

Just a load of men, enjoying the sunshine and rides. Sounds fucking fruity to me.

Afghanistan: Taliban ban women from Kabul parks

A spokesman claims Islamic laws were being flouted as women are further excluded from public life.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Wij]

Just a load of men, enjoying the sunshine and rides. Sounds fucking fruity to me.

Afghanistan: Taliban ban women from Kabul parks

A spokesman claims Islamic laws were being flouted as women are further excluded from public life.

www.bbc.co.uk

Taliban are ultra gay.

 

[BloodOmen]

Just a load of men, enjoying the sunshine and rides. Sounds fucking fruity to me.

Afghanistan: Taliban ban women from Kabul parks

A spokesman claims Islamic laws were being flouted as women are further excluded from public life.

www.bbc.co.uk

Just an excuse for them to be alone with kids. Nonces.

 

[Aoami]

So aye, Elon's paid Twitter backfired LOL

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It's not backfired at all, the bloke doesn't give a fuck. He wants Twitter to make money, all of this free speech stuff is just noise.

Mind Biden is talking about investigating his links to foreign powers as apparently Saudi part funded the takeover.

 

[Raven]

It's not backfired at all, the bloke doesn't give a fuck. He wants Twitter to make money, all of this free speech stuff is just noise.

Mind Biden is talking about investigating his links to foreign powers as apparently Saudi part funded the takeover.

Twitter will never make money. It is basically a minority of people screaming at each other. It has no use. It used to pretend it was something different, which brought in advertising. Gloves are off now though, their only revenue stream is long dead.

 

[Aoami]

Twitter has a lot of uses, and Musk will add more revenue makers to it - he has started it already. Not quite sure where it will go.

 

[Raven]

Not sure how, he was banging on about $8 a week for getting a tick or whatever, then gave the tick to a load of fake accounts, then binned it. Now he is back to screaming into the void.

$44 billion. Jesus.