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[Scouse]

So - RED DEAD REDEMPTION OR ELDEN RING?!

 

[Raven]

You can play dominoes and poker in RDR

 

[Scouse]

You can play dominoes and poker in RDR

That actually puts me off a bit.

I have a long-developed mistrust of "open world" games as they seem like excuses for not putting a proper storyline together and just making you walk from marker to marker to "do thing" and grind. But I hear Elden Ring doesn't do that. Having said that - I like a story - and I hear RDRs is very good.

Maybe neither? I don't know if I want to sink 100 hours into something when I should be learning the guitar/building a chicken tractor/riding a bike/masturbating.

 

[Ormorof]

Wonder if the police will arrest Liz Truss for her anti-monarchy speeches in the 90s
Republican protesters arrested at King Charles proclamations

 

[BloodOmen]

Wonder if the police will arrest Liz Truss for her anti-monarchy speeches in the 90s
Republican protesters arrested at King Charles proclamations

I mean.. its not really the same is it? I get what you're saying but the greater good dictates they keep the peace after the queen has just died, rather than having hardcore royalists fighting with anti-monarchists in the streets.

 

[Ormorof]

I mean.. its not really the same is it? I get what you're saying but the greater good dictates they keep the peace after the queen has just died, rather than having hardcore royalists fighting with anti-monarchists in the streets.

Then arrest the people committing violence not the guy holding the sign?

 

[BloodOmen]

Then arrest the people committing violence not the guy holding the sign?

One could argue holding a sign would incite violence?

It's a lot more tense after the Queen has just died, ordinarily they wouldn't be as strict.

 

[Scouse]

One could argue holding a sign would incite violence?

Oh sod off. You're responsible for holding your fists down.

I was kinda hoping the Scousers would boo the minutes silence before the game tomorrow night as hardly any of them will give a fuck about the monarchy. But they've sorta been instructed by Klopp not to do so, so I suspect it'll be well observed.

But if it isn't - it's a protest against monarchy, not insulting poor helpless grannies.

 

[BloodOmen]

Oh sod off. You're responsible for holding your fists down.

I was kinda hoping the Scousers would boo the minutes silence before the game tomorrow night as hardly any of them will give a fuck about the monarchy. But they've sorta been instructed by Klopp not to do so, so I suspect it'll be well observed.

But if it isn't - it's a protest against monarchy, not insulting poor helpless grannies.

Missing the point entirely. You're looking at as attacking the royal family, I'm looking at it as not starting a 2 sided street brawl (which given how zealous some royal supporters are, isn't out of the question when pushed)

Be it holding up a sign or shouting abuse, same shit. The police are absolutely right to shut it down before it gets out of hand. Were it to get out of hand, they'd be scrutinized for doing nowt to prevent it.

 

[Scouse]

Missing the point entirely. You're looking at as attacking the royal family, I'm looking at it as not starting a 2 sided street brawl (which given how zealous some royal supporters are, isn't out of the question when pushed)

Be it holding up a sign or shouting abuse, same shit. The police are absolutely right to shut it down before it gets out of hand. Were it to get out of hand, they'd be scrutinized for doing nowt to prevent it.

What your advocating for is a world where police can stop people expressing their opinions just in case arseholes start fights. It's a world where unpopular opinions could never be expressed. You're anti freedom of speech.

We're supposed to live in a world where people are free to say what they like - and people can say what they like back. But if you step over the line into violence - then you get arrested. End of.

 

[Scouse]

Jeff Bezos rocket malfunctions on trip to space

The rocket and capsule system developed by Amazon.com founder Jeff Bezos aborts a mission mid-flight.

www.bbc.co.uk

This looks like a dick. Always has. But I didn't realise quite how much the escape capsule looks like Dark Helmet's helmet.

 

[BloodOmen]

We're supposed to live in a world where people are free to say what they like - and people can say what they like back.

Hate to break it to you but we haven't lived in a world like that for over a decade now.

 

[Scouse]

Hate to break it to you but we haven't lived in a world like that for over a decade now.

Because people like you would rather the state "protected" fighty people from themselves like the children we all are, than allow people to hold signs up. Right?

 

[BloodOmen]

Because people like you would rather the state "protected" fighty people from themselves like the children we all are, than allow people to hold signs up. Right?

Whoa whoa whoa, let me you stop you right there. People like "Me" ? I was simply hazarding a guess as to why they took such action, don't lump me with any crowd. I'm very much neutral in all of this. I'm neither for nor against the Monarchy.

 

[Scouse]

But you are for the police stepping in during peaceful protest.

Pro or anti royal - you've made an anti-freedom of speech argument. An anti-peaceful protest argument.

 

[Scouse]

Why are people getting arrested in Britain for being republicans? | Zoe Williams

Over the years, the conversation has been steadily closed down so that you can no longer voice anything but adoration, writes Zoe Williams

www.theguardian.com

 

[Embattle]

Shocker I know but I can't say I'm that bothered, to me it is little more than a protest to try and antagonise the majority right in their face.

 

[Embattle]

Blood test spots multiple cancers without clear symptoms, study finds

Doctors hail new era for cancer screening as major research shows effectiveness of Galleri test

www.theguardian.com

 

[old.Osy]

View: https://youtu.be/AyN34sFko9w

 

[BloodOmen]

Blood test spots multiple cancers without clear symptoms, study finds

Doctors hail new era for cancer screening as major research shows effectiveness of Galleri test

www.theguardian.com

That's actually scary as fuck to think about tbh. Not that I'd wish it on any of our fellow freddies but chances are at least 2/10 of us have it on this forum now.

 

[Ormorof]

A guy says "well i didn't vote for him" and gets arrested, what happens when someone says something actually controversial?

 

[Raven]

I guess it's fine when those nutters hang out at funerals for gays and soldiers with placards going on about burning in hell is fine too then.

There is a time and a place, just because some "Look at me, my opinion matters, yours doesn't" idiot wants their time in the sun, doesn't mean they should get it. It's either taking them away or watching the whole thing turn into a shit show where the public decide to act and the idiot gets mobbed. Simples.

Someone has died, that is/was important to millions and millions of people, why not hold an opinion and still allow others to show their grief in peace?

I know it's very important what opinion people have these days, everyone has to fit into a tidy little box with a label, it's easier than thinking.

 

[Gwadien]

I guess it's fine when those nutters hang out at funerals for gays and soldiers with placards going on about burning in hell is fine too then.

There is a time and a place, just because some "Look at me, my opinion matters, yours doesn't" idiot wants their time in the sun, doesn't mean they should get it. It's either taking them away or watching the whole thing turn into a shit show where the public decide to act and the idiot gets mobbed. Simples.

Someone has dies, that is important to millions and millions of people, why not hold and opinion and still allow others to show their grief in peace?

Isn't the point that they're *arrested* not just 'moved on?'

 

[Raven]

Isn't the point that they're *arrested* not just 'moved on?'

They probably thought that was the easiest thing to do at the time, arrest them, move them away and then de-arrest them. Being shown to do something and de-escalate the situation. Nobody was hurt, nobody was mobbed. Everyone moved on.

Edit, as usual, the media are turning it into an us vs them thing, regardless of the original "thing" more labelling, division and screaming on twitter, sells papers.

 

[Ormorof]

If saying distasteful things were a crime half the forum would be in jail

The example given of the guy making a flippant comment was nowhere near the funeral procession or any of the royal family, so some snowflake gets offended on behalf of someone else and an arrest is made, thats what bothers me the most.

Im not quite at Scouses anything goes anywhere level but its mind boggling that people cant see how dangerous it is to accept that the police are arresting people for saying things out loud in public

 

[Scouse]

Shocker I know but I can't say I'm that bothered, to me it is little more than a protest to try and antagonise the majority right in their face.

First they came for the 22% of people in the UK who are republicans, but I did not speak out, because I was a royalist, eh?

 

[Raven]

If saying distasteful things were a crime half the forum would be in jail

The example given of the guy making a flippant comment was nowhere near the funeral procession or any of the royal family, so some snowflake gets offended on behalf of someone else and an arrest is made, thats what bothers me the most.

Im not quite at Scouses anything goes anywhere level but its mind boggling that people cant see how dangerous it is to accept that the police are arresting people for saying things out loud in public

Quite, but when you are a couple of coppers vs a potential mob, then sometimes the easiest way of resolving it is to instantly deescalate it rather than have it turn into a shit show. A decision was made, the problem went away, nobody was hurt. The person is still able to hold and provide their opinion, just at a different place/event.

 

[Scouse]

its mind boggling that people cant see how dangerous it is to accept that the police are arresting people for saying things out loud in public

They can see it - but humans don't put their neck out for opinions they don't agree with - so they'll let any principles they say they hold slide, because deep down they don't really abide by them.

The enlightment principle should read: "I detest what you say, so when the po-po lock you up, I'll keep silent and call you a whiner".

Ultimately, our nature has become a little bit facist. It might be our base nature. If what it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing then we're all over that in blighty.

 

[Scouse]

Quite, but when you are a couple of coppers vs a potential mob, then sometimes the easiest way of resolving it is to instantly deescalate it rather than have it turn into a shit show. A decision was made, the problem went away, nobody was hurt. The person is still able to hold and provide their opinion, just at a different place/event.

If you know the pigs lock you up for holding a sign up saying "not my king" - then perhaps you'll be less likely to express that opinion in the future.

It's a fucking disgrace is what it is.

Edit: Edinburgh, London and Oxford. They arrested people in three different places. Not one guy at a "flashpoint". It's absolutely stamping down on dissent. 100%.

 

[Scouse]

In London, a barrister and climate activist who had held up a blank piece of paper in Parliament Square said he had been threatened with arrest by a police officer under the Public Order Act.

“He confirmed that if I wrote, ‘Not My King’ on it, he would arrest me under the Public Order Act because someone might be offended,” the lawyer, Paul Powlesland, said on Twitter.

Come on. Defend that.