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Watch moment rover lands on Mars
The American space agency has released unprecedented footage of its robot landing in Mars' Jezero Craterwww.bbc.com
Absolutely outstanding achievement.![]()
Watch moment rover lands on Mars
The American space agency has released unprecedented footage of its robot landing in Mars' Jezero Craterwww.bbc.com
It's all that was needed when replying to that word salad about cancer of the face and tobacco executives enjoying killing their customers (they don't), or that they're marketing to kids on an Instagram account that has an 18+ rating (they aren't).Good argument.
I got shit post and facepalmed to hell suggesting nic was the same as alcohol or caffine.It's all that was needed when replying to that word salad about cancer of the face and tobacco executives enjoying killing their customers (they don't), or that they're marketing to kids on an Instagram account that has an 18+ rating (they aren't).
Nicotine is not the problematic part of a cigarette - it's the delivery mechanism which has issues. What the tobacco companies would like to do, is to provide ways of still taking in nicotine in a less harmful way - hence the focus on vaping, heat not burn, Lyft etc. After all, nicotine is no worse for you than caffeine, and I'm guessing most people on this board have had a coffee or two this morning.
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Nicotine “no more harmful to health than caffeine”
RSPH calls for public confusion over nicotine to be addressed as a way of encouraging smokers to use safer forms of the substancewww.rsph.org.uk
So if we can still have nicotine without the harms of smoking - what's the problem? The tobacco companies are on board - Philip Morris want to reach a point where they can stop selling Marlboro in favour of IQOS, and the other tobacco companies are looking to do similar.
Given the numbers quoted - vaping being 95% safer than smoking, Heat Not Burn being 90% safer - it would be an enormous public health win if everyone switched to reduced harm products tomorrow. This is why I cannot understand the anti-vaping hysteria - and hysteria is the right word, as it has no basis in fact. If you double down on the evils of vaping, people won't quit all nicotine, they'll just go back to smoking. GG Public Health numpties.
I'm guessing you missed the comment at the end of the article I posted from the CEO of the Royal Society for Public Health:I am not sure if you are aware, but nicotine is also highly addictive and offers no real benefit once you are hooked, the hit goes, and it becomes dependency...much the same as alcohol, and a few years ago I was borderline alcoholic, so I am well aware of how enjoyment becomes dependence with zero enjoyment...and I am ex-smoker.
They are literally aiming to get people addicted, and therefore financially hooked, onto putting a bit of plastic into the mouth for no reason.
And using grubby 'influencers' to do it, to try and make it look 'cool and necessary' when it plainly isn't, which is just fucked. As an alternative to wean people off tobacco products, fine, no problem but getting people addicted to something? Yeah, no.
So presumably, going by your rant above you'll now be suggesting limitations on the ability of Kenco and Douwe Egberts to advertise their addictive wares? After all, anyone who has been in an office when the coffee machine breaks, and sees the wailing and carnage until it's fixed has had a clear view of the dangers of caffeine addiction, and how crabbit people get when you cut off their supply. I mean Big Coffee are clearly trying to keep their customers addicted so that they continue to buy more, which is how it works no?"Getting people onto nicotine rather than using tobacco would make a big difference to the public’s health – clearly there are issues in terms of having smokers addicted to nicotine, but this would move us on from having a serious and costly public health issue from smoking related disease to instead address the issue of addiction to a substance which in and of itself is not too dissimilar to caffeine addiction.”
Caffeine is the same. The hit you take or think you get when waking up is just bringing you to the normal level of a non drinker as otherwise you are under par and with drawing. Hence you get headaches etc of you dont drink it.I am not sure if you are aware, but nicotine is also highly addictive and offers no real benefit once you are hooked, the hit goes, and it becomes dependency...much the same as alcohol, and a few years ago I was borderline alcoholic, so I am well aware of how enjoyment becomes dependence with zero enjoyment...and I am ex-smoker.
They are literally aiming to get people addicted, and therefore financially hooked, onto putting a bit of plastic into the mouth for no reason.
And using grubby 'influencers' to do it, to try and make it look 'cool and necessary' when it plainly isn't, which is just fucked. As an alternative to wean people off tobacco products, fine, no problem but getting people addicted to something? Yeah, no.
I've decided you can't actually read so I'm going to stop responding to you completely.cancer of the face and tobacco executives enjoying killing their customers (they don't)
could do with some cable management
Bit late for that now, might as well nuke it from orbit, only way to be surecould do with some cable management![]()
You've tidied up at last I see
I do see some cable ties in place.could do with some cable management![]()
Loads can be done really quickly. Covid has proven that we can cope with rapid societal change.I don't actually think there is much we can do now
I agree 100% there are too many people. Environmentalists have been banging on about that for many decades now. Mr Attenborough finally came out a few years ago and admitted the same.Too many people. It's as simple as that.
He isn't in a good way is he. Entire leg has been crushed. Lucky to be alive.Shit
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Woods in surgery after car crash
Fifteen-time golf major champion Tiger Woods is in surgery after being taken to hospital following a car crash.www.bbc.co.uk
Not good. To be fair Ben Hogan came back from far worse, but Tiger was already pushing being the bionic man with amount of surgery he's had, so might be a bit touch and go. Fingers crossed considering how much he's done for the game over the years.He isn't in a good way is he. Entire leg has been crushed. Lucky to be alive.
Very unlikely he will play golf again really.
But not being vaccinated is bad for society. It increases the chance of a mutation as there are more people who can be affected.Vaccine Passports being pushed by leftie wankers again.
The narrative is all about who hasn't been vaccinated and how do we prevent them going to the pub.
The real argument is - by June the vast majority of us will be immune from Covid with only tin-foil-hatters and conspiracy wankers left unvaccinated. So why should all of us who've been vaccinated have to prove it to get into pubs and restaurants? "Papers Please" at every door.
What a horrible infringement of our civil liberties.
Frankly, if covid is still a threat post-vaccination then it'll be killing idiots at that point (yes, there are bound to be exceptions). And whilst I fully support all the life protecting actions we've taken so far there does come a point that it has to end - and that point is when all the willing have been vaccinated.
So between April and July we can keep our social distance, drink outside pubs, not show our identity card papers to the social stazi and then carry on with life, rather than succumb to fear.