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Just thought with the new Aladdin

So Genies or Jinn as they are known in Islam.

Quran, the Muslim holy book — not as metaphors but instead as real entities whose existence is taken for granted. The Quran states that Allah created three types of beings from three substances: humans (made of earth); angels (made of light); and jinn (made of smokeless fire). There are said to be five categories of jinn; two of the best known are shaitan and ifrit, both of which are said to be evil.

"Jinn are taken seriously and regarded as real, tangible beings by a large segment of the world's population.... They often appear humanoid or even human but possess amazing powers we lack. They can change their shapes, can fly through the air, and even can render themselves invisible."

Considered wind and fire spirits by Muslims, jinn are invisible to humans in their pure form but can take any form they please to suit their needs. Jinn, just like people, can be good or evil; they are born, grow up, marry, have jobs, raise families, live in their own communities and die, just like us.

Jinn mischief
In contrast to Western versions of jinn, in the Arab world they are not known for their "Aladdin"-like wish-granting — though they can be commanded to perform tasks by wizards, for example, or someone who wears the magical Ring of Solomon.

Jinn are sometimes blamed for unexplained minor health scares, accidents and misfortune. For example, in 2000, teachers at an all-girls school in the Saudi Arabian city of Jeddah began having mysterious fits and seizures. Though doctors attributed that incident to mass hysteria (a mild and harmless form of social contagion and psychological suggestion), many believed that jinn haunted the school and were to blame for the attack.

I presume in modern times most muslims treat them the same as we treat angels..as in nice story.
 

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I was watching a documentary last night about the bible belt in America where parents were getting their kids to marry their rapists, because you know, religion.

Religion is fucked, period.
 

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Just thought with the new Aladdin

So Genies or Jinn as they are known in Islam.

Quran, the Muslim holy book — not as metaphors but instead as real entities whose existence is taken for granted. The Quran states that Allah created three types of beings from three substances: humans (made of earth); angels (made of light); and jinn (made of smokeless fire). There are said to be five categories of jinn; two of the best known are shaitan and ifrit, both of which are said to be evil.

"Jinn are taken seriously and regarded as real, tangible beings by a large segment of the world's population.... They often appear humanoid or even human but possess amazing powers we lack. They can change their shapes, can fly through the air, and even can render themselves invisible."

Considered wind and fire spirits by Muslims, jinn are invisible to humans in their pure form but can take any form they please to suit their needs. Jinn, just like people, can be good or evil; they are born, grow up, marry, have jobs, raise families, live in their own communities and die, just like us.

Jinn mischief
In contrast to Western versions of jinn, in the Arab world they are not known for their "Aladdin"-like wish-granting — though they can be commanded to perform tasks by wizards, for example, or someone who wears the magical Ring of Solomon.

Jinn are sometimes blamed for unexplained minor health scares, accidents and misfortune. For example, in 2000, teachers at an all-girls school in the Saudi Arabian city of Jeddah began having mysterious fits and seizures. Though doctors attributed that incident to mass hysteria (a mild and harmless form of social contagion and psychological suggestion), many believed that jinn haunted the school and were to blame for the attack.

I presume in modern times most muslims treat them the same as we treat angels..as in nice story.
And the bible says that the earth is flat and pi is 3 etc...

Religions are all dumb. We get it.
 

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No..I.just thought most people probably didnt know what a genie actuallly is to Islam.
 

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Metal Mickey :)
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Job

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Omg end of era.
Our local nightclub gone for good, some multimillionaire has bought it for his beachfront shaggin pad I presume.
Been open since the 80s, they even held the hitman and her there.

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They'll teach fiction (religion) in schools but not choice, makes sense I guess /facepalm
 

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More, the science is settled, stop asking questions.

BBC under fire for debating 'morality' of LGBT lessons in schools

So you criticise Muslims for hating on it, then you also question them, probs because they're liberal elite BBC journalists.

Evidence for homophobia above.

It's a bit like saying should we start debating whether black people are equal in society?

These are primary school lessons, they'll consist of 'Some people are different, but we should accept them all the same, regardless of their gender, race, religion, but not their sexual orientation.'

But obviously the concept of equality is a liberal elite agenda, so it needs to be stomped out.

But please tell me, should the Muslims be forced to have their kids put through the LGBT lessons or should we stop teaching kids about it?
 

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Is it just me, or is this clip is beyond creepy?


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpuKrZ9_-XM

For the LGBT community I actually think these sort of things does more harm than good.

Why is it important for me to know your sexual orientation when we are doing shop? If you do a good job, then why would I care that you were born a man and identify as a woman, or that you're a dude who likes kissing other dudes? I obviously have to respect it, and I do(honestly couldn't care less, my new boss is a lesbian), but I fail to see why the company needs to get involved with the sexual orientation of the staff. What it should worry about, is to not hire ignorant unprofessional people who cannot function in a team because someone is into same sex sex.

At the same time, if someone dyed their hair blue and walked around like that, they'd be notified by HR that they were breaking the dress code. Just because you're transgender, gay or something else) doesn't give you carte blanche on a professional level
 

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So you criticise Muslims for hating on it, then you also question them, probs because they're liberal elite BBC journalists.

Evidence for homophobia above.

It's a bit like saying should we start debating whether black people are equal in society?

These are primary school lessons, they'll consist of 'Some people are different, but we should accept them all the same, regardless of their gender, race, religion, but not their sexual orientation.'

But obviously the concept of equality is a liberal elite agenda, so it needs to be stomped out.

But please tell me, should the Muslims be forced to have their kids put through the LGBT lessons or should we stop teaching kids about it?
If you stop for a moment.
The complaint was that it is deemed above debate.
Everything can be debated, from genocide, to burying children under new buildings...to say that its beyond debate, why bother having one side on if its an absolute.
Heres Dave to discuss why 2+2=4
 

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'It's a bit like saying should we start debating whether black people are equal in society'

Why not, we are only talking about it.
You are confusing debate with intent and so are the bbc..well the officialy offended bbc dept.
 

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At the same time, if someone dyed their hair blue and walked around like that, they'd be notified by HR that they were breaking the dress code. Just because you're transgender, gay or something else) doesn't give you carte blanche on a professional level
Was with you on everything until you got to this, where you can get tae fuck.

That's even more repressive than anti-gay stuff because it affects the whole population and forces everyone to pander to an arbitrarily defined social norm.

What makes me angriest is that this special repression (for repression it is, regardless if *everyone* feels it or not) is that it's for *corporate*, not social, ends.

Fuck that old outdated shite. Fuck it to hell.

Edit: :eek:
 

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Was with you on everything until you got to this, where you can get tae fuck.

That's even more repressive than anti-gay stuff because it affects the whole population and forces everyone to pander to an arbitrarily defined social norm.

What makes me angriest is that this special repression (for repression it is, regardless if *everyone* feels it or not) is that it's for *corporate*, not social, ends.

Fuck that old outdated shite. Fuck it to hell.

Edit: :eek:

I agree with the sentiment. That video is still creepy as fuck though.
 

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'It's a bit like saying should we start debating whether black people are equal in society'

Why not, we are only talking about it.
You are confusing debate with intent and so are the bbc..well the officialy offended bbc dept.

Because words are mightier than the sword.

How did Hitler manage to convince the German people to wipe out the Jews? Words.

You don't accept the power of language so it's hard for you to concept.
 

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Because words are mightier than the sword.

How did Hitler manage to convince the German people to wipe out the Jews? Words.

You don't accept the power of language so it's hard for you to concept.
You don't get that those words still get said - in secret. And the only way to combat those words is with other words in the cold hard light of day.

Banning words is counterproductive.
 

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You don't get that those words still get said - in secret. And the only way to combat those words is with other words in the cold hard light of day.

Banning words is counterproductive.

It's not about banning words, it's about making sure we're having the correct conversations. Whether you like it or not society has determined what conversations are acceptable and what are not.

For example let's go kill some Jews wouldn't and shouldn't be an acceptable talking point.

Much like 'should we accept lgbt people in our society' shouldn't be a conversation.

Or shall we enslave all the blacks again?

Or shall we murder Job and gang rape his wife?
 

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I don't disagree with what you're saying to a degree.

I'd happily talk about why it was an (unfortunately) appropriate discussion theme on Question Time in this case but you're already reaching for the silly stuff which makes me feel like I'd be wasting my time because:hysteria.

It's your use of the word "acceptable" that boils my piss. It doesn't matter if some of society has deemed things unacceptable/acceptable - the real-life fact is that humans that live in Blighty sometimes feel differently and the only way to change their minds is to openly discuss unpaletable ideas, reapeatedly.

There's are reasons that antisemitism is on the rise again that aren't just Israel=dick country. Some of it is that people can't openly discuss how they feel without automatically being branded an antisemite and therefore suffering all the issues that go with that. So rather than having their ideas challenged in the crucible of open argument they clam up, feel resentful and start to hate, whereas previously they may have only disliked.

The people that would ban argument, those that define what is 'acceptable' have never grasped that incontrovertible fact, or they grasp it and ignore it, because banning speech makes their day-to-day 'nicer' and when the shootings and murders happen - because there's no pressure-release-valve of free speech - they double down on what can and can't be said, and hit things with their 'unacceptable' stick even more.
 

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