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I have yet to find a car sat nav that actually works. By work I mean, enter the post code and move on.
Well mine does. Ofc a post code covers more than one house but i do that quite often.
 

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Spoken like a true soulless man more like.

Half jokingly I suppose. As was your post, I suppose.

You think someone else's design, someone else's labour, something made out metal and plastic, something that is mass produced at the lowest cost possible to make money for people that already have lots of money. Something that is essentially useless except for getting a person from somewhere to somewhere else means anything?

Unless you have access to a track, a car is basically a tool that has exactly one use, A to B with the occasional C. Soul doesn't come into it :)

*note, I don't give a shit about petrol heads, everyone needs a hobby. The roar of an Aston still makes me smile like a 2 year old with a lolly pop but it is still essentially a way to spend more money and produce more shit (Teh icecaps omg) getting from A to B.
 

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I was just about to upgrade my Samsung S2 to a Note 5. Honest. Stunning specs and display. But no expandable memory card slot, and the screen is useless outside on bright days.

Don't actually fancy the new S8. No camera upgrade from the S7 and Bixby the new "assistant" can't actually do anything.

Oh well. The thought was there.
 

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I'm still on my Note 3 - I put a Marshmallow ROM on it and it's just lovely. I'm waiting to see what the Note 8 brings before making any changes.
 

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I was just about to upgrade my Samsung S2 to a Note 5. Honest. Stunning specs and display. But no expandable memory card slot, and the screen is useless outside on bright days.

Don't actually fancy the new S8. No camera upgrade from the S7 and Bixby the new "assistant" can't actually do anything.

Oh well. The thought was there.

Get a Pixel XL. Bluetooth issues aside, it's a stunning phone.
 

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I was just about to upgrade my Samsung S2 to a Note 5. Honest. Stunning specs and display. But no expandable memory card slot, and the screen is useless outside on bright days.

Don't actually fancy the new S8. No camera upgrade from the S7 and Bixby the new "assistant" can't actually do anything.

Oh well. The thought was there.
I find the oled screens the best outside...what phone do you think is brighter?
 

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Yet another story about drones on the BBC news. They seem to be obsessed with having them controlled (read massively restricted, punishing responsible users)

Not that they have an agenda or anything, oh no.
 

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Yet another story about drones on the BBC news. They seem to be obsessed with having them controlled (read massively restricted, punishing responsible users)

Not that they have an agenda or anything, oh no.
I presume you're talking about this?

I don't know why you've got it in for auntie here. The BBC itself hasn't actually said anything - they're just reporting what a report has said - in fact regurgitating what the PA have put out. Here's the torygraph's take on the same story.

But oh no. It's a conspiracy by auntie to control our minds. Or something!
 

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Actually, no, it was the one about a drone travelling at 10k feet (2 miles) and being spotted by a Airbus A32, 30 metres away.

Edit 2, cruising speed of 829 km/h, object the size of a drone at the 30 metres away. No way could they reliably identify it.

Passenger jet approaching Heathrow in drone 'near-miss' - BBC News

But thanks for bringing another one up.

Edit, I am all for existing laws being actually enforced (laws enforced, in this day and age, lol) but they seem all out to ban public use and restrict them to government/military use.
 
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Still don't see why the beeb wouldn't report that.
 

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It's because they've come out of nowhere over the past few years and no government or aviation authority is prepared for the fact that there are suddenly thousands of them in the skies. Yes most of them are flown by responsible people but the barriers to become licensed are still high (you basically have to do the theoretical side of a pilot's exam in France).

Also, when they can be used for things like this:

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which is to say, drop grenades, they obviously have to be taken seriously.
 

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Rig drone with explosives, engage enemies in firefight to pin then down, fly said drone high up in the air over enemy troops and lower it to 10m then drop the grenades or whatever.

Can't believe this isn't being done on a daily basis in Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan
 

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Most of a quadcopter's weight is the battery it needs to fly. Flight time with that battery is typically 20 minutes on a calm day. And they can't carry shit. That's why it isn't being done on a daily basis.
 

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A Phantom can carry a good kilo if you remove the gimbal and camera. That one above is an IS-modified Phantom 4, which was captured by the Iraqis, armed with 2 of those grenades with shuttlecocks on them. Going over what it's supposed to be able to carry affects handling but it can still lift and be controllable enough to do its job (presumably, otherwise why would they be using them?). To say they can't carry shit isn't really true. They can carry *enough*.
 

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The one in the picture would be as effective as a chocolate fireguard.
 

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Well, you seem to be more informed on what explosives a drone can and can't carry. All I've got to go on is a picture of a drone that was being used to carry explosives. :(
 

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It's a modified mortar shell that has mixed results.

There are easier ways to blow things up in a non combat environment.
 

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Think about it. You have a quadcopter with a gopro-type camera and grenade. The camera has an almost 180 degree lens, so is only effective for looking at targets from a low altitude. A drone at 200 feet (for example) can be shot down in seconds by even the stupidest soldier with a rifle. So you fly above 500 feet, at which point the drone is invisible to your target, but the camera is so wide that you can't see any detail. You certainly can't drop anything with any degree of accuracy (unless your target is a large field), so you're basically just wasting what you have. And if your target catches sight of the quadcopter, they can just use binoculars to see where it lands. At which point they fire a very expensive and very accurate high powered explosive in the direction of whoever goes to collect it.

Load of rubbish tbh.
 

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