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I bet you cut it with a bowl and a pair of crimping shears.
 

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So...no one interested in 1500 acid attacks in London?
Just a sign of the times I guess, the Americans are lapping it up on reddit.
Took a information disclosure request from the Mail for that to be released.
 

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So...no one interested in 1500 acid attacks in London?
Read it. It's over a number of years in a city of 8.6 million (so small numbers proportionally) and mainly amongst criminal gangs.
 

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30 percent are women, thats 300 women maimed by acid in London, ..wonder what the acid attack figures are for London in the 50s.
In fact the article, which I did read, states it as seen as the norm in the gangs and often goes unreported.
 

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thats 300 women maimed by acid in London
Apart from the "think of the women!!1" angle that's over 5 years in a city of 8.6 million.

That means the acid attack rate on women in London is 0.69 per hundred thousand people. So, "niche".

I'm more interested in the murder & attempted murder rate in the Amber Valley, which is 5.6 per hundred thousand people, Manchester where it's 6.3 and London at 12.4.

Your focus on stories involving your particular hated minorities blinkers you to real actual problems.
 

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Britain virtually invented the acid attack. It may be on the rise here but it's nothing new and it's propagated mostly by white men against.....white men.
 

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So...no one interested in 1500 acid attacks in London?
Just a sign of the times I guess, the Americans are lapping it up on reddit.
Took a information disclosure request from the Mail for that to be released.

The most pertinent stat is that globally 80% of attacks are against women, but 30% in the UK, which would indicate a very different thing is going on, and its not just "oh its all the brown people" as the mouth-breathers in the comments sections are so desperate to claim. Now, it might well still be something primarily happening via ethnic gangs, (and the fact that Newham is highest would certainly indicate that) but its not definitive.
 

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According to the acid attack survivors group, London is now approaching the most attacks per person of any city in the world.
 

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According to the acid attack survivors group, London is now approaching the most attacks per person of any city in the world.
Care to comment on:
Acid: 0.69 per hundred thousand people
Murder & attempted murder: 12.4 per hundred thousand people.

and explain why we should be focussing on a very rare crime, mostly perpetrated between criminals, and, where victim ethnicity was actually recorded, victims were predominantly white?



Edit: Just to clarify: Those are direct questions there @Job. Try to remain on-topic and answer the questions put to you, rather than expand the scope.
 

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@Scouse - here's what I think; 'acid in face throwing' (overhyped by sensationalist media) is associated with Muslims (wrongly), and that appears to Job's mental capacity, hence the post.
 

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@Scouse - here's what I think; 'acid in face throwing' (overhyped by sensationalist media) is associated with Muslims (wrongly), and that appears to Job's mental capacity, hence the post.
Hence all his posts tbh. It's amazing how a single emotional prejudice can make you spectacularly factually wrong on just about everything.
 

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Had a nice chat with an Iranian Maths (what else eh?) teacher at the Catholic school I'm working at.

Lovely bloke very down to earth and very... Human... Was going on about how no religious text tells you to hurt or kill people yet people do it.

He said he didn't agree with the religious perspective of the school, cos yano, he's Muslim, but he agreed in the values and morals that it taught.

He went on to explain about his national service in Iran, that he went to a Kurdish area as a part of it to know the people of Iran, turned out they were Satan worshippers (it's a bit more complex than this - dual gods etc but this is how he phrased it) but they were still Iranians... To me it kinda explains why the Iranian Kurds don't seem to be so bothered about having their own country where as the Iraqis/Turks/Syrians do.

It was a genuine eye opener for me, it appears that post revolution the Iranian people have been living in relative harmony compared to other middle eastern countries. So why are they still the worst country on the planet in the POV of the West?
 

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Perhaps you should read some religious texts...because they all tell people to kill, mostly for stupid reasons like coveting thy neighbours goat or whatever.

Edit, I am sure it is wonderful in Iran since they took away women's rights, introduced a religious police etc.
 
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Had a nice chat with an Iranian Maths (what else eh?) teacher at the Catholic school I'm working at.

Lovely bloke very down to earth and very... Human... Was going on about how no religious text tells you to hurt or kill people yet people do it.

He said he didn't agree with the religious perspective of the school, cos yano, he's Muslim, but he agreed in the values and morals that it taught.

He went on to explain about his national service in Iran, that he went to a Kurdish area as a part of it to know the people of Iran, turned out they were Satan worshippers (it's a bit more complex than this - dual gods etc but this is how he phrased it) but they were still Iranians... To me it kinda explains why the Iranian Kurds don't seem to be so bothered about having their own country where as the Iraqis/Turks/Syrians do.

It was a genuine eye opener for me, it appears that post revolution the Iranian people have been living in relative harmony compared to other middle eastern countries. So why are they still the worst country on the planet in the POV of the West?

They were probably Zoroastrians, which was the original religion of Persia. And he may be being a bit disingenuous about how tolerant Iran is. Islam has a particular hard-on for persecution non-Judaic peoples. They actually like Christians and Jews by comparison.
 

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They were probably Zoroastrians, which was the original religion of Persia. And he may be being a bit disingenuous about how tolerant Iran is. Islam has a particular hard-on for persecution non-Judaic peoples. They actually like Christians and Jews by comparison.

I don't think it was Zoroastrians, because I mentioned that and he said no.

I'm not trying to claim that Iran is some kind of utopia, I'm suggesting that perhaps the western view of Iran is somewhat skewered.
 

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@Scouse - here's what I think; 'acid in face throwing' (overhyped by sensationalist media) is associated with Muslims (wrongly), and that appears to Job's mental capacity, hence the post.
Disfiguring someone with acid is a quite obviously a hideous crime that destroys a victims life, used in India often by the actual Police..yes..to inflict 'death every day'.
It has a far worse effect on peoples lives than being beaten, raped or shot.
In fact many victims would have preferred death..
The entire..it must be immigrants..angle you are pushing on me just clouds your reaction to utter barbarity.
The fact that ethnicity is only recorded in a few cases who then turn out to be white is suspicious to say the least...imagine if only 10% of ethnicity was recorded and they were mostly black...you would shout foul play..and you would be right.
I find it VERY hard ti believe most of the attacks are british whites.
 

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Disfiguring someone with acid is a quite obviously a hideous crime that destroys a victims life, used in India often by the actual Police..yes..to inflict 'death every day'.
It has a far worse effect on peoples lives than being beaten, raped or shot.
In fact many victims would have preferred death..
The entire..it must be immigrants..angle you are pushing on me just clouds your reaction to utter barbarity.
The fact that ethnicity is only recorded in a few cases who then turn out to be white is suspicious to say the least...imagine if only 10% of ethnicity was recorded and they were mostly black...you would shout foul play..and you would be right.
I find it VERY hard ti believe most of the attacks are british whites.
Rage rage waffle. You're a giant thundercunt.
 

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Yes okay.
Scouse reply No1 to not having one.
 

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India, as in London's West India Quay? Because I thought we were talking about London....
No G. He stayed on-topic and didn't "widen it out" and definitely answered the murder question, and definitely didn't tell us "what he believed" instead of relying on factual evidence.

A couple of years back I was symathetic to the amount of hate job received...

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Yes okay.
Answer the question before you then. Without widening it out, and with evidence to justify your beliefs.

Or shut. the. fuck. up.
 

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Yes okay.
Scouse reply No1 to not having one.

To be fair Job, you raised the subject on "London's acid-thrown-in-face problem" which Scouse challenged; you absolutely ignored it by going off on a totally different ethnicity rant tangent.
 

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