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old.Tohtori

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And as always, you're wrong :)

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Bodhi

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Pretty sure soccer was the original name for it, definitely an English invention anyway (the game and the word itself).

However that would involve agreeing with the Sceptics and Toht. So fuck that.
 

Edmond

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C'mon kids, play nice, it's Christmas after all
 

TdC

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I has this. Let me just finish a thing and I'll post it :)
Okiedinks,@Moriath and @caLLous, ribbed, for your pleasure! Goal of this exercise was to get rid of the redundant gfx card, the main intel 120GB ssd that the server booted off of, and generally to get more, or rather less Watts out the wall, since this thing is on 24x7. Tbh I think stuff worked out quite nicely indeed. With this mobo I now have an extra PCIE 3.0 16x slot, for the intent of adding another raid card and 4 more disks in the future. Until then, this thing works just perfect. Old server was my trusty i7@2.7GHz, 12GB ram, 120GB Intel SSD, with a passively cooled Nvidia 210 gfx card. All of that now goes to a mate for the princely sum of 150 euros 0_o


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Job

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Got the father in law a cheap tablet and put Kiwix offline wiki on it because he doesn't have the net....52gb download..it's basically the entire knowledge of the human race except Tohts fin size.
 

Lakih

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Okiedinks,@Moriath and @caLLous, ribbed, for your pleasure! Goal of this exercise was to get rid of the redundant gfx card, the main intel 120GB ssd that the server booted off of, and generally to get more, or rather less Watts out the wall, since this thing is on 24x7. Tbh I think stuff worked out quite nicely indeed. With this mobo I now have an extra PCIE 3.0 16x slot, for the intent of adding another raid card and 4 more disks in the future. Until then, this thing works just perfect. Old server was my trusty i7@2.7GHz, 12GB ram, 120GB Intel SSD, with a passively cooled Nvidia 210 gfx card. All of that now goes to a mate for the princely sum of 150 euros 0_o
The R4 is an awesome case to build with. I have the R2 for my server.
I'm surprised that you use the stock cooler for the Xeon processor, i always find the stock Intel coolers to become very loud after about a year. Even in a sound proofed case like the Define series.
I also strongly disapprove of your cable management. Case is designed to have cables running behind, but if you swap drives a lot that will be a pain.
I assume you will run OS on the Samsung SSD? Did you ever consider placing it on the "OS bay" behind the motherboard?
 

TdC

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Yeah I know, and yeah, I know :) I basically wasn't looking forward to mucking about with hardware gubbins and slapped the thing together as fast as I could, so there is certainly room for improvement here and there as you mention. Also, re the cooler, yeah, that was actually something that irked me because I had simply forgotten to research an aftermarket cooler, and when I was unpacking the CPU I was like....oh, meh! What I did do, was scrape off the gunk they pretend is cooler paste and apply some artic silver 4 that I had left over from the workstation build of the summer. That said, I am certainly considering some kind of cooler for the Xeon, possibly even a completely passive one to take advantage of the R4's frankly outstanding air-flow.

Re disks, no, the OS is on the M2, as well as my home drive, and the Sammy is my ZFS cache drive, e.g. the RAID card is configured to provide JBOD, and ZFS is used to combine the four disks in to a raidz group. The SSD is then added to the group as a dedicated cache drive for the ARC. I used to also have a dedicated ZIL, or "intent log", but as I currently have nothing that does synchronous operations I stopped doing that. The bulk of the zpool is given to Windows via iSCSI, and my tests show that my workstation doesn't touch the ZIL. Basically I cba, unless I had like 10's of VM's running I wouldn't do it. As it stands I have a couple, but that's not enough to make me want a dedicated ZIL so ZFS can use some ram, I care not. Ram's faster than disks anyway :)
 

TdC

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So what do you keep on all that sexy hardware then @TdC ?
Games, films and backups mostly chumlar. The largest device is a 2TB one that I share over iSCSI to my Windows workstation across a 10GBe optical link.
 

Lakih

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Yeah I know, and yeah, I know :) I basically wasn't looking forward to mucking about with hardware gubbins and slapped the thing together as fast as I could, so there is certainly room for improvement here and there as you mention. Also, re the cooler, yeah, that was actually something that irked me because I had simply forgotten to research an aftermarket cooler, and when I was unpacking the CPU I was like....oh, meh! What I did do, was scrape off the gunk they pretend is cooler paste and apply some artic silver 4 that I had left over from the workstation build of the summer. That said, I am certainly considering some kind of cooler for the Xeon, possibly even a completely passive one to take advantage of the R4's frankly outstanding air-flow.

Re disks, no, the OS is on the M2, as well as my home drive, and the Sammy is my ZFS cache drive, e.g. the RAID card is configured to provide JBOD, and ZFS is used to combine the four disks in to a raidz group. The SSD is then added to the group as a dedicated cache drive for the ARC. I used to also have a dedicated ZIL, or "intent log", but as I currently have nothing that does synchronous operations I stopped doing that. The bulk of the zpool is given to Windows via iSCSI, and my tests show that my workstation doesn't touch the ZIL. Basically I cba, unless I had like 10's of VM's running I wouldn't do it. As it stands I have a couple, but that's not enough to make me want a dedicated ZIL so ZFS can use some ram, I care not. Ram's faster than disks anyway :)

Cool. I wish all this was available when i build my server back in 2009. The JBOD/ZFS setup seems to be exactly what i wanted back then. I took the easy way out and just slapped all the discs in and set them up as individual volumes.

I built my desktop in an R4 case
Asus Maximus VII Hero (z97) motherboard, Intel i5 4690K (Haswell) processor, Cooler Master Hyper 212 evo CPU cooler, Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB RAM, 2x Intel 530 240 GB SSD, ASUS GTX760 graphics card, Corsair RM 650 Watt 80+ gold PSU
Sorry for the horrible picture.
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I can recommend the Cooler Master EVO series CPU coolers, they are huge, but because of their size you can have the fan on low and still get very good cooling out of them. They are also surprisingly easy to assemble.
 

Moriath

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Games, films and backups mostly chumlar. The largest device is a 2TB one that I share over iSCSI to my Windows workstation across a 10GBe optical link.
I just have a nas for that they use less power I think. Or am I wrong?
 

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Cool. I wish all this was available when i build my server back in 2009. The JBOD/ZFS setup seems to be exactly what i wanted back then. I took the easy way out and just slapped all the discs in and set them up as individual volumes.

I built my desktop in an R4 case
Asus Maximus VII Hero (z97) motherboard, Intel i5 4690K (Haswell) processor, Cooler Master Hyper 212 evo CPU cooler, Corsair Vengeance 2x8GB RAM, 2x Intel 530 240 GB SSD, ASUS GTX760 graphics card, Corsair RM 650 Watt 80+ gold PSU
Sorry for the horrible picture.

I can recommend the Cooler Master EVO series CPU coolers, they are huge, but because of their size you can have the fan on low and still get very good cooling out of them. They are also surprisingly easy to assemble.

Your pic looks good to me chumlar :) also, there's nothing in your server kit that I wouldn't do given similar requirements. tbh I am going down this particular Xeon route because of the decent TDP and the fact it has a built-in gfx chip. also, Xeons are amazing once your stuff is in-memory. the OS on the server rates it quite nicely for something that is "only" 3.2 GHz at peak performance. Mostly it's throttled back to 800MHz lol. Also, we have similar choices re PSU as well; mine is a 650W gold rated part too (Seasonic X-Series 650W).

Cheers for the recommendation too, I shall look in to this, and hopefully they have one that fits the 1150 socket. What do you use your server for?

I just have a nas for that they use less power I think. Or am I wrong?
Nah, you're not wrong. This entire machine is basically a big disk for my workstation, as well as a providor of fairly high performing VM's. This is why it's directly connected to the workstation with a 10GBe fiber link. Also, the server itself is coupled in to my network on a 2GBe bonded interface (2x1Gb), which has all the VM's behind it. I basically have it this way, because I get *really* annoyed when I experience any kind of lag, networking or otherwise. Also, it's fun to mess about with kit like this :)
 

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Cheers for the recommendation too, I shall look in to this, and hopefully they have one that fits the 1150 socket. What do you use your server for?
That was my desktop setup. And the cooler will fit on an 1150 socket just fine.
Server is running on an i3 using the built in gfx card and just a bunch of WD green 2TB disks.
I use the server as a file server, running Linux Ubuntu 10.4LTE, got an FTP server, Teamspeak server and torrent slave running on it. And while studying for a cert i used Virtualbox to run a Windows 2008 server and a Win7 desktop on it as well.
 

Moriath

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Your pic looks good to me chumlar :) also, there's nothing in your server kit that I wouldn't do given similar requirements. tbh I am going down this particular Xeon route because of the decent TDP and the fact it has a built-in gfx chip. also, Xeons are amazing once your stuff is in-memory. the OS on the server rates it quite nicely for something that is "only" 3.2 GHz at peak performance. Mostly it's throttled back to 800MHz lol. Also, we have similar choices re PSU as well; mine is a 650W gold rated part too (Seasonic X-Series 650W).

Cheers for the recommendation too, I shall look in to this, and hopefully they have one that fits the 1150 socket. What do you use your server for?


Nah, you're not wrong. This entire machine is basically a big disk for my workstation, as well as a providor of fairly high performing VM's. This is why it's directly connected to the workstation with a 10GBe fiber link. Also, the server itself is coupled in to my network on a 2GBe bonded interface (2x1Gb), which has all the VM's behind it. I basically have it this way, because I get *really* annoyed when I experience any kind of lag, networking or otherwise. Also, it's fun to mess about with kit like this :)
I am stuck with cat5 not gonna rip everything up to put fiber in now hehe. Yes it takes five mins to transfer a 10gb movie think I get about 24mbps transfer rate on mine. I guess the disk write speed is slowing it down as the network is 1gb but less than that with the overheads and all.
 

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