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[Madmaxx]

This is great

 

[Madmaxx]

If I could travel one day, I'd like to go to somewhere remote like this.

 

[Edmond]

Why can't you travel?

(I sense I'm opening a huge can of worms, but hey)

 

[Zarjazz]

This is great

Where are numbers 16-30? Whatever, it's okay, it doesn't matter really.

 

[Job]

Tracking the wifes flight..holy fuck you can get a flightstats app that tracks it over sat maps..you can see what theyre seeing out the window...how did they lose that Malaysian flight

 

[DaGaffer]

If I could travel one day, I'd like to go to somewhere remote like this.

Problem is the Whitsundays aren't really that remote anymore; just off shot, a boat full of drunk backpackers.

 

[Moriath]

Tracking the wifes flight..holy fuck you can get a flightstats app that tracks it over sat maps..you can see what theyre seeing out the window...how did they lose that Malaysian flight

Tracking my wife's flights too. She coming back from the USA today

 

[Lamp]

Did anyone else enjoy The Abyss?

(old scifi movie with Ed Harris: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096754/)

Pity its not been released on BluRay

 

[Edmond]

Did anyone else enjoy The Abyss?

(old scifi movie with Ed Harris: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096754/)

Pity its not been released on BluRay

One of my favourite films, the full directors cut

 

[Lamp]

Great minds
Going to rewatch it tonight when the Mrs turns in.

 

[CorNokZ]

Great minds
Going to rewatch it tonight when the Mrs turns in.

To avoid her from the get go?

 

[Edmond]

I've got it dvd. Just looked and I can't believe it's not on blu ray

 

[old.Tohtori]

Predictable and not at all brain-function requiring,but a very good comedy if you can ignore text and lower resolution;


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx3h4V92y5c

 

[old.user4556]

That place looks like Scotland.

 

[Job]

My thoughts exactly as you msy have gathered
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/if...s-will-bring-on-a-permanent-underclass-report

 

[Ch3tan]

Been training all week at st katherines docks. London in the summer is lovely...need to get a job in the city!

 

[old.user4556]

My word, that article (and others on that site) read like a technological, futuristic Daily Mail.

 

[Scouse]

My word, that article (and others on that site) read like a technological, futuristic Daily Mail.

Meh. If the increased efficiency in production brought on by automation of all kinds went to those at the bottom rather than those at the top then 3 day weeks and full employment, or at the very least a minimum income above poverty for all - regardless of work - would be the norm.

Why work 5 days a week?

 

[Moriath]

Just watched the new robocop. What a piece of shit that is. The fx were ok but it just jumps from scene to scene with no real continuity. The ending that was a big piece of the first is pants. And the story is just so weak.

I should learn not to watch these remakes.

 

[Job]

Yes it is a bit doom..bit the underlying truth is undeniable...huge swathes of workers work in jobs using a computer and that means it can do it better than you..the speed of transition has every chance of causing social unrest on top of everything else...I know I sound like a tinfoil hatter but all the graphs are heading in very ominous directions..robots and code doing our jobs AND watching over every aspect of those who do work while passing on the increased profits to the rich...how far can that go before someone takes a hammer to the machine...I sound like Animatrix.

 

[DaGaffer]

Yes it is a bit doom..bit the underlying truth is undeniable...huge swathes of workers work in jobs using a computer and that means it can do it better than you..the speed of transition has every chance of causing social unrest on top of everything else...I know I sound like a tinfoil hatter but all the graphs are heading in very ominous directions..robots and code doing our jobs AND watching over every aspect of those who do work while passing on the increased profits to the rich...how far can that go before someone takes a hammer to the machine...I sound like Animatrix.

On ongoing process that's been going on for 300 years (Where do you think the word Sabotage comes from? Workers throwing their shoes (sabots) into spinning machinery to break it because it was taking their jobs); the biggest difference now is that the process is moving up into the middle classes; lawyers, journalists, doctors, accountants, are all exposed to technological shifts that haven't been an issue before. The problem with the article is that implies that somehow we can alter the school system to churn out millions of creative, highly skilled people; but in reality, even if we could (and we absolutely couldn't, normal distribution curve always applies), there wouldn't be enough work for them. Without going all Scouse here, something's going to have to change with regards to wealth distribution, because the "1%" is going to become the "o.o1%" soon enough if it doesn't. The danger being that we'll soon be in the situation where those at the top won't even need unreliable humans to do their suppressing of the population for them.

 

[caLLous]

One hundred years ago today, this started appearing in London...

 

[Raven]

With the tagline, die for the rich you spackers!

 

[Job]

The reality is that they hugely ramped up the UK population in preparation for conflict so they could send cannon fodder in..britains 65 million population all stems from needing bodies to die on the battlefield..that why I firmly believe anyone who shows a desire to lead should be shot..it may be difficult in the short term but billions of people have died following conflicts started by less than a thousand egomaniacs.

 

[fettoken]

The reality is that they hugely ramped up the UK population in preparation for conflict so they could send cannon fodder in..britains 65 million population all stems from needing bodies to die on the battlefield..that why I firmly believe anyone who shows a desire to lead should be shot..it may be difficult in the short term but billions of people have died following conflicts started by less than a thousand egomaniacs.

That's quiet a belief even for something that'd be considered conspiracy-talk.

 

[Job]

On ongoing process that's been going on for 300 years (Where do you think the word Sabotage comes from? Workers throwing their shoes (sabots) into spinning machinery to break it because it was taking their jobs); the biggest difference now is that the process is moving up into the middle classes; lawyers, journalists, doctors, accountants, are all exposed to technological shifts that haven't been an issue before. The problem with the article is that implies that somehow we can alter the school system to churn out millions of creative, highly skilled people; but in reality, even if we could (and we absolutely couldn't, normal distribution curve always applies), there wouldn't be enough work for them. Without going all Scouse here, something's going to have to change with regards to wealth distribution, because the "1%" is going to become the "o.o1%" soon enough if it doesn't. The danger being that we'll soon be in the situation where those at the top won't even need unreliable humans to do their suppressing of the population for them.

I thought I was making that point..its going to hit the white collars hard...mainly cos most of them do pointless shit anyway..but thats another argument..In my time for BT I used to update 10 lines of hand written code..maybe 5 mins of time then I would spend an hour logging on to endless databases telling endless overlapping departments what I had just done...all those well paid jobs and managers..buildings ..pensions..all utterly pointless..even then it could have been done by 200 lines of code...thats your phone bill...titanic levels of waste..using typed in updates..its all over the country..90% of clerical semi skilled workers will be out on their ear followed by the gravy train of support staff..I guess it took about 200 people for me to enter that code and 150 of them were pointlrss

 

[DaGaffer]

The reality is that they hugely ramped up the UK population in preparation for conflict so they could send cannon fodder in..britains 65 million population all stems from needing bodies to die on the battlefield..that why I firmly believe anyone who shows a desire to lead should be shot..it may be difficult in the short term but billions of people have died following conflicts started by less than a thousand egomaniacs.

What? No they didn't. Apart from the 20 year lead time such thinking would take, Britain never countenanced huge volunteer armies running about Europe; that was the kind of thing foreign johnnies got up to. Britain spent all of its defence money on the navy (a legal requirement for the navy to be twice as large as the next two largest) and very little on the domestic army. Historically Britain distrusted the idea of having large armies sat about in the UK doing nothing, and the army itself hated the idea of conscripts.

Britain's land-based forces were 90% colonial and designed to fight colonial wars. Which is also why so many Indians ended up stuck in holes in Flanders.

Fact is, Britain never thought it would have to fight in Europe at all, and wasn't remotely geared up to do so when it happened.

 

[Gwadien]

What? No they didn't. Apart from the 20 year lead time such thinking would take, Britain never countenanced huge volunteer armies running about Europe; that was the kind of thing foreign johnnies got up to. Britain spent all of its defence money on the navy (a legal requirement for the navy to be twice as large as the next two largest) and very little on the domestic army. Historically Britain distrusted the idea of having large armies sat about in the UK doing nothing, and the army itself hated the idea of conscripts.

Britain's land-based forces were 90% colonial and designed to fight colonial wars. Which is also why so many Indians ended up stuck in holes in Flanders.

Fact is, Britain never thought it would have to fight in Europe at all, and wasn't remotely geared up to do so when it happened.

We did this as a part of our course at Uni - Empires, and it's easy to forget that Britain, as a Government did little in terms of Empire building (In comparison with other Empires.) they just used the money, a vast majority of Britains Empire building was through corporations - the first Capitalist Empire if you will, all comes down to money, not necessarily land, India, South Africa & Hong Kong consisted of OK, we found you, let's trade with you, oh, there's a threat? - OK, we'll take over the docks and call it the British Empire, Oh, the surrounding land is used to attack us from? we'll take that too, oh, that surrounding land is also used? We'll take that too.

It was the first Capitalist Empire but definitely not the last, America, where do McDonalds operate, Walmart, Microsoft, etc etc etc, land is a thing of the past, it's about taking countries money for your own.

 

[Job]

We encouraged huge population increases for many reasons...the main one which still stands today is that the more people the more power...immigration will never be curbed because of that...we went from 7 million in 1800 to 35 million in 1900...without that increase we wouldnt have stood a chance against growing populations in other warring countries....they were basically bred to work and fight.

 

[Gwadien]

We encouraged huge population increases for many reasons...the main one which still stands today is that the more people the more power...immigration will never be curbed because of that...we went from 7 million in 1800 to 35 million in 1900...without that increase we wouldnt have stood a chance against growing populations in other warring countries....they were basically bred to work and fight.

Aye, Why was the NHS started?

It wasn't because the Government fancied being nice to people.