This has got to stop..

[Kinag]

This is a note to all realms in general.

First of all, congratulations to a well done raid Mastade, second of all, nicely added mids

I've read and posted alot about the last night raid done by Mastade and I've read the retake by albs and I just want to state my opinion in a clean thread so it won't get spammed down right away.

The situation at the moment leads to unbalance in rvr for all realms and it will not stop.

I don't mind if you play late at night due to work-shifts and things like that, but do you really have to do something that will unbalance rvr for the upcoming days/weeks?

This isn't helping the realm in any way possible, it's actually ruining it for a larger amount of Albs as we're being targetted as kill on sight just because a few of you decide to retake the relics when they've gone to bed.

I've had endless discussions about this, and some hibs seem to want the relics to be equal so it'll be balanced, of course, some hibs enjoy the situation as they can whine and trash all albs in general.

I just wish I had more raiding experience and I'd try to lead an MRE to see if it's actually possible to do a raid at primetime instead of having to take them back at 4am, as atm, all it will accomplish is more grudge, more negativity and of course ruin it for more players.

This was perhaps aimed more at Albs than hibs/mids, but I will also mention this that if you think you're helping the current situation by taking advantage of a hibs raid event, you're mistaking, you're just encouraging more late time relic (retake) raids.

At the moment we're in an evil circle of some sort, some albs take relics at night, hibs tries to make a point and take theirs back and mids add in to take the second relic.

 

[Icebreaker]

I can understand People who are only playing at night/morning because they can't play during the early evening that they want to do something.But really if would play at morning/night (which i can do this week because of holiday) then i wouldn't go for the Relics. Why? Because i know it isn't:

a) healthy for the server population
b) for the community
c) it's unfair because noone is online to defend (especially retakes after a few hours)
d) not fun

So and since it won't stop Albion has to live with the constant Assaults on their Realm and being the shit realm with the strange people who only think about themselves and not about what is good for the server and what not.

 

[Gahn]

This is a note to all realms in general.

First of all, congratulations to a well done raid Mastade, second of all, nicely added mids

I've read and posted alot about the last night raid done by Mastade and I've read the retake by albs and I just want to state my opinion in a clean thread so it won't get spammed down right away.

The situation at the moment leads to unbalance in rvr for all realms and it will not stop.

I don't mind if you play late at night due to work-shifts and things like that, but do you really have to do something that will unbalance rvr for the upcoming days/weeks?

This isn't helping the realm in any way possible, it's actually ruining it for a larger amount of Albs as we're being targetted as kill on sight just because a few of you decide to retake the relics when they've gone to bed.

I've had endless discussions about this, and some hibs seem to want the relics to be equal so it'll be balanced, of course, some hibs enjoy the situation as they can whine and trash all albs in general.

I just wish I had more raiding experience and I'd try to lead an MRE to see if it's actually possible to do a raid at primetime instead of having to take them back at 4am, as atm, all it will accomplish is more grudge, more negativity and of course ruin it for more players.

This was perhaps aimed more at Albs than hibs/mids, but I will also mention this that if you think you're helping the current situation by taking advantage of a hibs raid event, you're mistaking, you're just encouraging more late time relic (retake) raids.

At the moment we're in an evil circle of some sort, some albs take relics at night, hibs tries to make a point and take theirs back and mids add in to take the second relic.

Well put

 

[Kaun_IA]

i agree...

i like relics neutral all, that means all have theyr own relics.
but if ppl take em we will attack. this crap would have never happened if those noobs wouldnt have done a 5 am relic raid. yes they are ingame NOOBS... becouse they cant accomplish enything prime time

 

[Alhanna]

I wasn't on last night but have been reading this morning. How I see it from what I have read.

Hibs decided to get a raid togther to kick albs. They chose lastnight.

Hibs BG size? I don't know

Alb BG size? Mostly around 95

Mids BG size? Did they have a BG? guess so

Started early evening UK time from what I hear

Any other factors? ML4/5 raid on with 120+ plus alb in it

Hibs took Surs early then Bold upto Beno while Eras being taken by mids then Berks falls to hibs. Both relics open which then are lost ten ish uk time.

Albs get more help around 11pm now ML4/5 raid is over and hold Hurb which still holds hib relic.

Most goto bed exept albs who retake relics

Hibs and Mids pissed at Albs


And so it continues?


From what I see Albion have a stigma of early pve raids which seems just from what I have seen of late. Albion have in the past done primetime raids I know it and have been on them with vary degree of succsess. But I get the general feeling that the primetime raid of last night argument is weakend when you take into the fact of a ML4/5 raid that was happening that didnt stop to help in the realm.

Also I read people say if Albion goto Hib to invade Mids goto Albion to invade and take advantage. I understand that and it makes sense but that did not happen last night, did it? Did Mids goto Hib last night to take advantage? I know the answer.

All I can say is boys will be boys. Sort the relics and leave them as they are unless people can just accept the way they are taken if two realms gang on one or another takes early.

Just getting this off of my chest over coffee. Time to email a few people now

 

[Kaun_IA]

I wasn't on last night but have been reading this morning. How I see it from what I have read.

Hibs decided to get a raid togther to kick albs. They chose lastnight.

Hibs BG size? I don't know

Alb BG size? Mostly around 95

Mids BG size? Did they have a BG? guess so

Started early evening UK time from what I hear

Any other factors? ML4/5 raid on with 120+ plus alb in it

Hibs took Surs early then Bold upto Beno while Eras being taken by mids then Berks falls to hibs. Both relics open which then are lost ten ish uk time.

Albs get more help around 11pm now ML4/5 raid is over and hold Hurb which still holds hib relic.

Most goto bed exept albs who retake relics

Hibs and Mids pissed at Albs

im guessing the relics where taken between 4-6 am so = ac.

ml raid ... its your own choise to defend or to do mls... i have dropped out few times from a ml raid when ppl have yelled they need help on keep defence over the last 2 years.

hib bg was 160 ppl when it was at the highest i think.
no idea on mids... when we fought theyr zerg they where big.. but not HUGE

the raid for hibs started about 18:30 gmt or so.. or was it close to 19:00.. took us time to sort the rams and trebs so it wast an early evening start

 

[Alexandrinus]

From what I see Albion have a stigma of early pve raids which seems just from what I have seen of late. Albion have in the past done primetime raids I know it and have been on them with vary degree of succsess. But I get the general feeling that the primetime raid of last night argument is weakend when you take into the fact of a ML4/5 raid that was happening that didnt stop to help in the realm.

btw since 3-4 days this Hib raid was announced ----> enough time to cancel any ML raid

Albs want it like that,its only a matter of time when you will fall totally...today, tomorrow....and loose all relics

 

[Alhanna]

btw since 3-4 days this Hib raid was announced ----> enough time to cancel any ML raid

Albs want it like that,its only a matter of time when you will fall totally...today, tomorrow....and loose all relics

Sure I agree time to cancel. So Albion cancel and you raid. You get relics or not? Albion do another raid and guess what you announce relic raid and we what? cancel? and so it carrys on.

From the times I see Albion rush to help is more when a relic raid is not announced. I have seen far more push towards stopping a ML raid to go help that what it appears happened last night. So if tomorrow comes and we lose all the relics what then? Well what happened this morning?

 

[Alexandrinus]

you will see you cannot defend a realm every night in primetime, peeps will get fed up with the situation.

btw bring emotion in a game is a good thing...so i dont really bother if they take a relic back in the morning or not,its part of the game and it brings peeps back to playing.

Server and Forums was in a Lethargy long enough. ^^

 

[Daphney]

you will see you cannot defend a realm every night in primetime, peeps will get fed up with the situation.

btw bring emotion in a game is a good thing...so i dont really bother if they take a relic back in the morning or not,its part of the game and it brings peeps back to playing.

Server and Forums was in a Lethargy long enough. ^^

What he said

Lots of large-scale rvr action now :worthy: :worthy: :worthy:

Thanks Mastard

 

[Luz]

As long as there is someone in Hib that leads theese raids primetime we can show over and over again that Hib > Alb, it keeps me happy.

I just hope the actions of a few albs that quite frankly do theese AC raids with no other agenda then to piss people of dont discourage hib leaders enought to stop taking relics/leading raids all together.

Because the day Hib people finally are fed up with this bullshit they will decrease in numbers, RvR will get less and less hibs untill one day Albs run around on a PvE server with their dicks in eachothers hands.

 

[Alexandrinus]

maybe we see a revival of the noon raiders,wich we had 1-2 month ago

 

[Alhanna]

As long as there is someone in Hib that leads theese raids primetime we can show over and over again that Hib > Alb, it keeps me happy.

I just hope the actions of a few albs that quite frankly do theese AC raids with no other agenda then to piss people of dont discourage hib leaders enought to stop taking relics/leading raids all together.

Because the day Hib people finally are fed up with this bullshit they will decrease in numbers, RvR will get less and less hibs untill one day Albs run around on a PvE server with their dicks in eachothers hands.

A new game will come along before people get fed up. But don't you think it could be looked at the other way round? Hibs/Mids keep kicking Albion taking relics that we get pissed off and then your have a Mids dick in your hand with no Albion around?

 

[Gahn]

A new game will come along before people get fed up. But don't you think it could be looked at the other way round? Hibs/Mids keep kicking Albion taking relics that we get pissed off and then your have a Mids dick in your hand with no Albion around?

It's a chance, then again i hope it won't become true, cause having to blame 20 ppl for a realm dieing well it's ... shit -.-

 

[Kinag]

As long as there is someone in Hib that leads theese raids primetime we can show over and over again that Hib > Alb, it keeps me happy.

I just hope the actions of a few albs that quite frankly do theese AC raids with no other agenda then to piss people of dont discourage hib leaders enought to stop taking relics/leading raids all together.

Because the day Hib people finally are fed up with this bullshit they will decrease in numbers, RvR will get less and less hibs untill one day Albs run around on a PvE server with their dicks in eachothers hands.

Hehe, You sound like a nice little prick to be honest.

That reply has to be far from the truth, and you're just generalising the whole realm for the actions of a few.

You're not achieving anything by pissing off other albs by mentioning the "dicks in eachother hands", and those you're pissing off happen to be those who's against the late raids and want to make a difference.

 

[Luz]

Hehe, You sound like a nice little prick to be honest.

That reply has to be far from the truth, and you're just generalising the whole realm for the actions of a few.

You're not achieving anything by pissing off other albs by mentioning the "dicks in eachother hands", and those you're pissing off happen to be those who's against the late raids and want to make a difference.

Its up to the albs to sort out the albs.
If the majority of the albs really think its crap to piss people of by doing PvE raids, toss thees few albs out of guilds, toss them out of alliances. /ignore them and ban them from ML/Arti raids.

Theres lots of actions to be taken if the majority as you say of albs really could be arsed.

Me? I cant do crap ass about it, can only watch as people get demoralized and hope they dont quit.

 

[Kinag]

Its up to the albs to sort out the albs.
If the majority of the albs really think its crap to piss people of by doing PvE raids, toss thees few albs out of guilds, toss them out of alliances. /ignore them and ban them from ML/Arti raids.

Theres lots of actions to be taken if the majority as you say of albs really could be arsed.

Me? I cant do crap ass about it, can only watch as people get demoralized and hope they dont quit.

Then why do you trash a whole realm?

 

[Luz]

Then why do you trash a whole realm?

Erh because if the "whole realm" dont act, so who do I blame? The whole realm. Why?

Because I happen to think that standing by watching someone doing something you think is wrong and then doing nothing makes you as crappy as the ones doing wrong

 

[Arethir]

rep'd Kinag!

 

[Arethir]

Erh because if the "whole realm" dont act, so who do I blame? The whole realm. Why?

Because I happen to think that standing by watching someone doing something you think is wrong and then doing nothing makes you as crappy as the ones doing wrong

And lol, what do you expect us to do fgs? We also sleep at night.

 

[Kinag]

Erh because if the "whole realm" dont act, so who do I blame? The whole realm. Why?

Because I happen to think that standing by watching someone doing something you think is wrong and then doing nothing makes you as crappy as the ones doing wrong

There's not much we can do about it, we can kick them out of the alliance they're in, but that's just a few people who can do that (the alliance leader), we can kick them out of the guilds, but only the guild leaders can do that.

We can ban them from ML raids, but who will really know who their alts are?

Thing is, we're stuck.

 

[Cromcruaich]

A new game will come along before people get fed up. But don't you think it could be looked at the other way round? Hibs/Mids keep kicking Albion taking relics that we get pissed off and then your have a Mids dick in your hand with no Albion around?

Same thing really, we all lose out in the end.

And you seem confused about cause and effect.

Firstly, in response to another post of yours in this thread, the hib raids are announced without any reference to what ml raids may or may nor be happening in albion. There is no deliberate scheduling happening here.

Secondly this albion kicking is in response to the actions of your realm mates, we will continue until the balance is restored.

 

[Arethir]

Secondly this albion kicking is in response to the actions of your realm mates, we will continue until the balance is restored.

This mean you won't take the albion relics, only the relics that belong to your realm?

 

[Luz]

There's not much we can do about it, we can kick them out of the alliance they're in, but that's just a few people who can do that (the alliance leader), we can kick them out of the guilds, but only the guild leaders can do that.

We can ban them from ML raids, but who will really know who their alts are?

Thing is, we're stuck.

Well unless the guildleaders are among theese AC raid people theres no problem. Same goes with alliance leaderguild.

If they are the leaders of alliance, disband guilds and remake a new alliance. Ban them from ML's, if you find out they have alt in there ban it else fine, cant win them all. Atleast this way you clearly state you think its wrong.

My guess is today, right now, nobody does anything other then posting crap on this forum.

Oh and before you say : So do you!
Its because I aint in your realm so I cant take actions against them in any way whatsoever.

 

[pip]

There's not much we can do about it, we can kick them out of the alliance they're in, but that's just a few people who can do that (the alliance leader), we can kick them out of the guilds, but only the guild leaders can do that.

We can ban them from ML raids, but who will really know who their alts are?

Thing is, we're stuck.

Bs you can do that, sod there alts hit em were it hurts kill there mains guild gm kick out of guild and alliance leaders if they do not kick em kick the guild out, and n1 let em into another alliance need to stomp out this turds from the game imo

 

[Icebreaker]

There's not much we can do about it, we can kick them out of the alliance they're in, but that's just a few people who can do that (the alliance leader), we can kick them out of the guilds, but only the guild leaders can do that.

We can ban them from ML raids, but who will really know who their alts are?

Thing is, we're stuck.

Well we do something about ppl who act weird in hibernia. Prime example are xioeen/barker who get kicked from every guild/alliance and groups they try to be in (even their new chars get discovered most of the time), get kicked from ml raids etc.I don't think those people have much fun with us.

 

[Cromcruaich]

This mean you won't take the albion relics, only the relics that belong to your realm?

I see it like a pendulum, at the moment, its swinging wildly, and a hib raid will probably take advantage and go for capturing an alb relic as well, however if the ac raiders can restrain themselves and the following evening stop at just taking back there own relic, then the pendulum is dampened, and we're all in a state of equilibrium again.

 

[Cromcruaich]

Well we do something about ppl who act weird in hibernia. Prime example are xioeen/barker who get kicked from every guild/alliance and groups they try to be in (even their new chars get discovered most of the time), get kicked from ml raids etc.I don't think those people have much fun with us.

Kinags right though, those two dicks were individuals, unfortunately the AC raiders are pretty much self sufficient.

Actually the funniest thing we did to barker was tell him we had a spot for him and we'd invite him when he got to us at Glenlock, hats off, he managed to get all the way after a death or two, finally when he arrived we told him we 'dont group with scammers'. Ahh its the small victories that are the sweetest.

 

[Luz]

Kinags right though, those two dicks were individuals, unfortunately the AC raiders are pretty much self sufficient.

Yeh but let them form their own guild then thats banned from all alliances and every RvR grp, it will be so much fun for them

 

[Slick50]

Kinags original post in this thread has some decent points he lost it after a while though with his ALB Hive mind attitude.

There was a poll that said alot also.

A vast majority of Mids and Hibs was against nighttime relicraids.
A majority of albs though it was groovy to do PvE raids.

I think it is the most damaging think imaginable if ppl are gonna be limited in their creativeness by stuff like.
Hib is attacking a keep in albion dont cap a keep there while they have one its unbalanced. QQ.

I was with very early to open the str relic gate at 1900 hours we started to bash the doors. of the tower.
And finally securing the keep.

1FG albs could have held erasleigh. but choosed not to. 2 albs came to defend, which 1 sb and 1 warr disposed of.

The spiral of death at the moment is the frontiers.
The mere design of the RvR zone makes people cry for IRvR.
Albion keeps crying out loud for IRvR and when they get it they make their megazergs, which mere aura is sucking the life energy out of ppl´s will to play.

People are leaving the friggin game left and right. I have heard "whats the use" as one of the expressed feelings.
Whats the use to work you arse off capping a keep fighting for hours to acomplish it. Spending hours on transporting/summoning wood and repairing doors/walls etc. When its going to be retaken during the night within an hour by some lame PvE freaks.

What is going to happen now is ALB is going GREEN and BLUE and it is going to keep happening til alb keep playing fair. I dont think MId and Hib are gonna help eachother out in anyway. but relics are going to change hands thats for shure.

I dont really understand it. Alb is 2/5 of the entire server if not slightly more.
Have the best keep sieging and defence classes ingame, hello Heretics and multiple Foolsbow able classes. and boltrangemezzers.
No realm can stop alb if they really tried raiding primetime. But relics keep getting capped nighttime?

Some other thoughts:
The RvR zone need to be compressed, near IRvR need to be aviable for all.
The old frontiers were IRvR.
Still remembers the old fights with Alpha, Sst and those ppl. i were having a blast.
Stuff started to change with the "famous" outlaw zergs.

Then ppl started to be caught at MG´s then TOA happened and speedwarps were everywhere and traps caught stealthers at MG´s. etc.