This has got to stop

[censi]

Ah you can just sense the frustration in this post. (My guess he just got owned by one.)

I get owned by them all the time...

but like maybe 8 months ago when I first started experiencing ML9 pets I was like frustrated (maybe shocked is better word I thought it was a bug or april fools joke when I first saw the damage)... Then after like a while, like someone touched on in the post, you really dont give a shit...

I get annoyed when like an assasin beats me to the punch or I get rear styled in stealth from a hunter... or when I dont play good fighting something I have a chance against. In other words a meaningfull fight (and you only really get meaningful fights if you play a stealther or you do proper FG rvr, thats where the fun is in daoc all else is for newbs or radarers)

As a stealther you dont have a chance versus ml9.... so ofc you dont attack convoker classes (generally, unless they newb looking)... so any time you experience ml9 is when u get either an adder or a newb (or both as in most cases)that pops it versus a stealther and runs off.... And like I say there aint nothing to get frustrated about in those circumstance, the result is like meaningless.... The newb is free RP on a similiar toon to you thats why he has opted for convoker mage.

imo anyway...

ofc if you are one of the peeps that play a convoker mage and cant get groups (aka beno bridge 1 solo'er mage type dude)... then ofc the convoker mage is just a great fun class to go RVR with. (just dont expect the peeps on the receiving end of your leetness to be to appreciative)

 

[brad]

eh, since when can sorc charm anything higher than lvl50pets..

soz im getting confused it's mincers that can charm oj pets, as i remember seeing them charming oj salamanders in volc.

 

[CuddleBunny!]

this thread r0x! i'm tempted to send in the CarePatrol again :< but mods would prolly ban me for spam again =|

 

[Void959]

Such defeatist attitudes! Just complain repeatedly about it for two to three (more?) years and it will get changed, thats the way things work

 

[Matriarch|Sneakers]

Well there is nothing balanced with a pet that does sometimes 700 dmg / hit on a stealther, nothing balanced at all.
Would be intersting to let hunters have ml9 pets aswell and send on casters from stealth, haha that would create some whine indeed

Or

Why not go one step further, hunters with ml9 pet and mos5, haha makes just as mutch sense as casters with ml9 pets that chase u for 3k range and is imp to kill/fight~

 

[Castus]

Well there is nothing balanced with a pet that does sometimes 700 dmg / hit on a stealther, nothing balanced at all.
Would be intersting to let hunters have ml9 pets aswell and send on casters from stealth, haha that would create some whine indeed

Or

Why not go one step further, hunters with ml9 pet and mos5, haha makes just as mutch sense as casters with ml9 pets that chase u for 3k range and is imp to kill/fight~

Where do i sign up?

 

[Minstrel]

Well there is nothing balanced with a pet that does sometimes 700 dmg / hit on a stealther, nothing balanced at all.
Would be intersting to let hunters have ml9 pets aswell and send on casters from stealth, haha that would create some whine indeed

Or

Why not go one step further, hunters with ml9 pet and mos5, haha makes just as mutch sense as casters with ml9 pets that chase u for 3k range and is imp to kill/fight~

Or let Minstrels go Convoker? orange/red pet ml9 mmm that will sure hurt

 

[Castus]

Or let Minstrels go Convoker? orange/red pet ml9 mmm that will sure hurt

Do Mins get RA Wild Minion for charmed pets?

 

[Minstrel]

Do Mins get RA Wild Minion for charmed pets?

I dont think so

 

[CuddleBunny!]

QQ'ing about ML9 pets as a assasin, wich can kill a caster in 3-4 attacks while the caster is stunned.
stlong m8er.
a SB that fails to kill a solo sorc or enchanter from stealth, really sucks

 

[Castus]

QQ'ing about ML9 pets as a assasin, wich can kill a caster in 3-4 attacks while the caster is stunned.
stlong m8er.
a SB that fails to kill a solo sorc or enchanter from stealth, really sucks

Thru brittles,ml9 pets and moc?

 

[trycorn]

Thru brittles,ml9 pets and moc?

if the caster is moveing, use poison spike and inst stealth, to remove brittle's and then PA / CD should do the trick, if moc u just walk thru, u got the tool's use em, try fighting a fully buffed SM pet, now that's a pain...

 

[Maeloch]

Or let Minstrels go Convoker? orange/red pet ml9 mmm that will sure hurt

Frost stallion double hitting for 700+ plus insta nuke.

Pet casters used to whine alot on vnboards about how their pets only good for interrupts, never killed anything despite how much they put in their pet line, etc. - my impression was ML9 was to shut them up. ofc now it's here it'll prolly never change but why they didn't fix it by putting a similar buff in the pet lines, scaling up to the full +20lvl to pet bonus at around 50 in enchant etc., or reduce reuse timer on jugger if someone really wanted to be a full on 'pet-caster'...instead of the usual sledgehammer fix.

 

[Gryni]

\o/ en spasser

 

[Minstrel]

if the caster is moveing, use poison spike and inst stealth, to remove brittle's and then PA / CD should do the trick, if moc u just walk thru, u got the tool's use em, try fighting a fully buffed SM pet, now that's a pain...

Just use mezz pot vs sm and vs all casters that have pet ez as that.

 

[trycorn]

Just use mezz pot vs sm and vs all casters that have pet ez as that.

givf ml9

 

[Nuxtobatns]

CuddleBunny! QQ'ing about ML9 pets as a assasin, wich can kill a caster in 3-4 attacks while the caster is stunned.
stlong m8er.
a SB that fails to kill a solo sorc or enchanter from stealth, really sucks

Most of the times i feel this thing should be changed is just aFter a fight i won and try to run away from the inc fg that saw me and decided I am the only thing they can rp on ... so 1 targeted me and sent his fuking pet. Generally that can get u killed...and death is 100%(if vanish is down) if pet is ML9...death in 1-2 secs (as u r never full health after a fight)

Wont even comment on the caster abilities to fight even after a succesfull PA-CD (even with no window dragging)

 

[pip]

lol sadlex strikes again

 

[Tallen]

like i say... it dont matter at the end of the day cuz... like think about what a convoker pet class mage is... The only type of dudes that gonna play these classes (outside of normal group RVR) are basically newbs that get all their RP's doorstepping and adding (its ok its an MMRPG m8!)

so in a way its good to give this OP shit to the irrelevent classes played by the irrelevent people. Its better they have it than have stupid OP shit on stealthers which make our fights meaningless etc....

Utter crap. I know a load of convokers who spend hours on end fixing keeps and doors, these players care about their realm, unlike idiots like you who only care about yourself.

These players are not irrelevant, in the grand scheme of things, it's your little stealther who is irrelevant.

and you only really get meaningful fights if you play a stealther or you do proper FG rvr, thats where the fun is in daoc all else is for newbs or radarers

Utter crap, i know loads of small groups, non-opted groups, non-stealther soloers who love their rvr. Who are you to say what people enjoy, what is fun for them?

Egotistical and self-opinionated.

 

[Solari]

lol

You must be a Hib, Remedy.

If you did not in advance know who and what censi is your either very new to the stealther community or pretty clueless

 

[MaCaBr3]

like i say... it dont matter at the end of the day cuz... like think about what a convoker pet class mage is... The only type of dudes that gonna play these classes (outside of normal group RVR) are basically newbs that get all their RP's doorstepping and adding (its ok its an MMRPG m8!)

so in a way its good to give this OP shit to the irrelevent classes played by the irrelevent people. Its better they have it than have stupid OP shit on stealthers which make our fights meaningless etc....

BAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

IF CENSI SAYS ALL PET SUMMONING CLASS PLAYERS ARE ADDING AND USELESS NEWBS THEN IT MUST BE TRUE!!!!11111oneone

Please mate, cut the brainless crap, you know better. Cuz no one in the game made a pet summoning char BEFORE Toa ofcourse.

And ofcourse the only way to gain rps for these noobs you call, is ONLY by using an ml9 pet. The spells they use are totally useless ofcourse.

But then again, why would u even reply to me since you told everyone in the game that i'm an adding bastard. :worthy: :worthy: :worthy: :worthy:


Beside falling into Censi trap of whining, I agree that convoker are too op in RVR. I don't mind a nerf in RVR but full use in pve tho. But then again, this day will never come, cuz the only people who whine abuot it are solo fighting players.

 

[Castus]

Censi has a ml9 pet though ....Thesa(no timer and follows commands alot better)

 

[Void959]

Do Mins get RA Wild Minion for charmed pets?

Yes we do, dunno anyone who specs it tho. As for convoker there's a hardcap on covokered pet level of 70 afaik so even with 10 times the effort to hold a pet effectively it'd still hit no harder than a sorcs

 

[Lomme]

This guy doesn't seem to need ml9.

http://matrix.senecac.on.ca/~anmaszko/nerfPets.jpg

 

[Vladamir]

This guy doesn't seem to need ml9.

http://matrix.senecac.on.ca/~anmaszko/nerfPets.jpg

That's nothing on a ml9 pet

 

[boppas]

hehe, this brings back memories when my pet followed Rambo across HW after he hit & run on our grp, we followed for a good 3-4 mins, even though he prob thought he got away we just followed my ally, my pet uncovered him sitting down by a tree \o/ ...never forget that tbh, was lol'age at the time ^^ ...i could just imagine him sitting there thinking "that was close" then he gets chinned by my pet

imo, working as intended. Its upto the stealther to use his/her head weather or not they shuld attack a pet class, if they do they need to be sure to take them down fast, if they dont.... then chances of you getting away to de-stealth are pretty slim, so live with it

Can also say the same about bolts tbh. A few times (was in BG mind!) a stealther would hit & run a member of my grp, id set off a bolt, just as bolt is fired the stealther does his disapearing act, 2-3 sec later... boom, uncovered...shit happens

Cut a long story short, choose you targets well, if u attack a pet class, or small group with a pet class or even spells that take time to travel (bolts/ani-bombs etc) expect to be de-stealthed, gone are the days when a stealther could run upto a FG take out a caster & run off like a nub to de-stealth... i love it tbh!, only time i see this happen now is in BG's (because groups in BG's are crap) or zergs, because theres alot going on & ppl run about like headless chickens.

g/l ^^

 

[Nuxtobatns]

boppas hehe, this brings back memories when my pet followed Rambo across HW after he hit & run on our grp, we followed for a good 3-4 mins, even though he prob thought he got away we just followed my ally, my pet uncovered him sitting down by a tree \o/ ...never forget that tbh, was lol'age at the time ^^ ...i could just imagine him sitting there thinking "that was close" then he gets chinned by my pet

imo, working as intended. Its upto the stealther to use his/her head weather or not they shuld attack a pet class, if they do they need to be sure to take them down fast, if they dont.... then chances of you getting away to de-stealth are pretty slim, so live with it

Can also say the same about bolts tbh. A few times (was in BG mind!) a stealther would hit & run a member of my grp, id set off a bolt, just as bolt is fired the stealther does his disapearing act, 2-3 sec later... boom, uncovered...shit happens

Cut a long story short, choose you targets well, if u attack a pet class, or small group with a pet class or even spells that take time to travel (bolts/ani-bombs etc) expect to be de-stealthed, gone are the days when a stealther could run upto a FG take out a caster & run off like a nub to de-stealth... i love it tbh!, only time i see this happen now is in BG's (because groups in BG's are crap) or zergs, because theres alot going on & ppl run about like headless chickens.

g/l ^^

u just cant read ?? or is it something else?????
.... the original post was reffering on the fact that a caster with speed(or not) roaming will add and kill u with his pet(most of the times ml9ed) during a fight or just after one. ( many times...just after stepping on a spike/trap .. one the many lying around). So we come to a situation..where u just walk...some1 sees u from far...targets u..sends his pet...and w8s for the rps...EVEN IF U GET THE CHANCE TO RESTEALTH NORMALLY...
so ... THAT NEEDS OT BE ADDRESSED IMO

 

[whinersmincer]

BAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

IF CENSI SAYS ALL PET SUMMONING CLASS PLAYERS ARE ADDING AND USELESS NEWBS THEN IT MUST BE TRUE!!!!11111oneone

Please mate, cut the brainless crap, you know better. Cuz no one in the game made a pet summoning char BEFORE Toa ofcourse.

And ofcourse the only way to gain rps for these noobs you call, is ONLY by using an ml9 pet. The spells they use are totally useless ofcourse.

But then again, why would u even reply to me since you told everyone in the game that i'm an adding bastard. :worthy: :worthy: :worthy: :worthy:


Beside falling into Censi trap of whining, I agree that convoker are too op in RVR. I don't mind a nerf in RVR but full use in pve tho. But then again, this day will never come, cuz the only people who whine abuot it are solo fighting players.

Well lets face it morgales u are a noob u always camp brigde and u always run and put pet on us, and we still kill u. i have no idear how u could get to RR6+ much have taken soo long with camp brigde and add on every fight u see..

 

[Saveus]

what i love is when i hit a stealther mine and my simi runs and finds them when they are in stealth 1000 units away. now dats OP

 

[Durgi]

time for my two pence.

Having assassins in all 3 realms on various servers by far the silliest of the pet classes is the SM, the intercepting buffed pet is simple a pain in the ass. That aside, the amount of pet classes is way too high, as a hardcore assassin player, all pet classes are killable if you have thr skill for it. Sorc, SM, BD, Chanter, Cabbie, Mincer+frost stallion is a nightmare and as a SB almost always = Death. Even with brittles, moc, soi etc up the Sorc is still killable if you use your tools properly, and ensure you fight on your terms not his. Use the right combinations of venoms, get the right RA's and pet farming is easy enough. TBH I find it refreshing that now that I have to work to kill these classes, where as in in the 'good old days' it was all over in 2-3 blows. Mages played well are difficult too kill and they should be, but they are kill able. Poison-spike, Tanglesnare, Essence Flare, Special Venoms, and the top end venoms all combined properly ensure you win. Stick a sorc full of lifebane (with viper 2+), and poisonspike running threw him, and a good dose of greater enervation, hit the vanish button. And watch him cough too death. Odds are before you've got all that in he's hit the purge and moc button. You've escaped and he's crawling away his pet floundering round with no target. They are killable just learn too how. Even ML doesn't make much difference, a dose of mezz venom offhand will ensure the pet and he stands still long enough for the cd too hit, and you deliver your venom load.

They aren't overpowered their a challenge now. Though pet classes running round with DI pots stuck too their arse are shite! You already have all the tools you need to kill stealthers should you find one, don't be gay and bring your bot with you.

As for Censimilla don't mind him, anything that kills him is OP, and needs to be nerfed.

D.