The Official "Unofficial" Euro 2012 Thread

[Raven]

There are exceptions. Lampard is very intelligent (Didn't he do a degree in economics?)

 

[DaGaffer]

The point being, they are exceptions. And no, he doesn't have a degree. He has 11 GCSEs.

 

[eksdee]

This. I've said it time and again, the problem with English football is cultural. It is no coincidence that the English don't just fail to pull their weight at the player level, its the same through management and governing levels as well, mediocre (at best) intellects because of a culture that's suspicious of intelligence. So you end up with meathead players (from school level onwards), meathead managers (the fact that people found it endearing that Harry Redknapp is functionally illiterate says it all really), and stick-in-the-mud, unimaginative dolts at the FA, who usually find themselves tied in knots by money men at every turn. In the rest of Europe, smart people play, manage and run football, in the UK (and Ireland), smart people avoid football because of the people who play it or they go to schools where its not played at all, smart people generally only come back to football later on, when its too late.

(And I know I'm making some sweeping generalisations here, but in general terms, English football is played and run by idiots).

Can someone print out this post, mount it and nail it to the front door of the FA HQ?

 

[cHodAX]

The point being, they are exceptions. And no, he doesn't have a degree. He has 11 GCSEs.

Brian McClair has two degrees iirc, never been offered a managers job despite 15+ years of coaching at one of the top clubs in the world. Owners generally do not want well educated managers, they are alot less easy to abuse and manipulate.

 

[cHodAX]

The point being, they are exceptions. And no, he doesn't have a degree. He has 11 GCSEs.

And we all know that GCSE's became worthless the day they introduced the A* star system and lowered the bar right across the board. He is of average intelligence and reasonably articulate for a footballer but when the media portray him as being something exceptional I can't help but laugh.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Cheer up everyone!

 

[Olgaline]

Ze master race is indeed zoh verri hot

 

[Wazzerphuk]

I do believe the last one is the same girl that had the Spanish hearts on her face, so she's a bit of a slut.

Which I guess is good news for us?

 

[DaGaffer]

In Europe pretty girls go to football matches to watch football, in England pretty girls go to clubs to shag footballers.

 

[megadave]

And we all know that GCSE's became worthless the day they introduced the A* star system and lowered the bar right across the board. He is of average intelligence and reasonably articulate for a footballer but when the media portray him as being something exceptional I can't help but laugh.

It was because he scored in the 0.1 percentile of the population on his IQ test that he's regarded as intelligent.

 

[Olgaline]

In Europe pretty girls go to football matches to watch football, in England pretty girls go to clubs to shag footballers.

which is why european footballers come to England

 

[Everz]

And we all know that GCSE's became worthless the day they introduced the A* star system and lowered the bar right across the board. He is of average intelligence and reasonably articulate for a footballer but when the media portray him as being something exceptional I can't help but laugh.

Agreed. I have 16 GCSE's, 2 A-levels and soon enough a degree, yet I'm still far away from being anything near smart, they aren't worth the paper they're printed on.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Lampard's IQ is reportedly 150. Which is high in terms of general public, but it's far from "exceptional."

 

[megadave]

Well most English footballers seem to fall into the chav category. Grassroots football seems a bit working class orientated and hostile towards intelligence, look at Le Saux getting labelled gay because he read a broadsheet instead of some shitrag.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Don't forget he committed the cardinal sin of admitting he read books... FOR PLEASURE!

 

[Ctuchik]

Don't forget he committed the cardinal sin of admitting he read books... FOR PLEASURE!

How ever did he survive that one?

 

[Raven]

Don't forget he committed the cardinal sin of admitting he read books... FOR PLEASURE!

As did Le Saux and look at the treatment he got.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

As did Le Saux and look at the treatment he got.

*ability to follow conversation facepalm*

 

[Raven]

pfft

 

[Job]

Please, please let this be the end of the Rooney myth, just watch his Nike adverts like this one and then think of the actual man, it's a fucking joke that people can be so determined to believe a lie,they actually send th pillock to do the job.

 

[DaGaffer]

Wayne Rooney is a very good football player. He's one of the best strikers in the Premier League, but he doesn't show up for his country (any more). However, even if he'd been on peak form yesterday, 4-4-2 wasn't going to deliver the ball to the strikers. Before getting worked about Rooney's failures in front of goal it has to be pointed out that he barely received a pass from open play all night. Same with Welbeck. Its all very well to praise Carroll for thundering around the field and showing commitment (if not talent) but he shouldn't have needed to do that in the first place if the ball was being held and played up the park properly.

Rooney and Welbeck play in a system that masks deficiencies in the middle through excellent wide play (although hopefully that will change this season), they were getting none of that yesterday; minimal support from the left (while Ashley Cole has to be praised for his defensive duties, he wasn't bringing the ball forward the way he does every week for Chelsea, and Young was just crap) and absolutely fuck all from the right, whereas they've had Valencia, Nani and yes, Young, giving them decentish support all season at United. Instead they got industry without skill, played narrow against an Italian midfield that's a shadow of its former self (Pirlo excepted) but still has more basic skill than the English can bring to bear, especially when the English are outnumbered. A lot of yesterday's problems have to land at Uncle Woy's door; I just don't buy the argument that 4-4-2 was the only solution to mask limited English talent; all of those players work in 5-man midfields all the time.

 

[megadave]

 

[soze]

Rooney might be a great player and the best England has. And he should of gone no question about that. But after his first 88 minutes he was clearly unfit and off the pace. At this point he should of been benched start with Carol and bring on Rooney as an impact sub at 60 minutes. He was a passenger against Italy both him and Young started that game because of name not form and that is a shame to see.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

 

[Wazzerphuk]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...ea-Pirlo-homophobic-for-staying-in-Italy.html

 

[Wazzerphuk]

@WhoScored:

Ashley Young: No player at Euro 2012 has misplaced more passes in his own half in a single game than Young did against Italy (6).

Ashley Young: Of players to have put in at least one accurate cross at Euro 2012, Young has the lowest cross success rate, with just 7.7%.

Antonio Cassano: Has created more chances for teammates in open play than any other player at Euro 2012, making 14 key passes in open play.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Most shots by players without a goal at Euro 2012: Benzema 19, Iniesta 15, Kerzhakov 14, Konoplyanka 13, Andrews 12, Robben 11.

Average team possession: http://t.co/kfBarFlN

 

[Job]

rooney works as part of a well oiled machine, carefully crafted to supply him with exactly what he needs against predictable opposition, that does not make him a great footballer, in fact every thing points to him being entirely average out of his comfort zone, with a list of excuses provided by him and the fans as long as my very long arm

 

[Cerb]

You are an idiot.

 

[Job]

Sorry, couldn't hear you, the players jet has just flown over our house.