The new Warhammer shots

[cHodAX]

Is it just me or is the game looking like crap graphically? For visuals it doesn't seem to have moved on at all from DAoC and some of the enviromental textures look shocking, low res and stretched to the max. I am becoming less and less impressed with the game by the day, it looks no better than Trials of Atlantis which is 3+ years old. I know it is still early days but the game needs to turn up the dial up several notches when it comes to graphics because right now it looks like a refugee from 2003. Anyway, judge for yourselves.

http://ve3dboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=25995018

 

[Himse]

Its probably EA pushing to get the game onto the market.

 

[Keitan]

Is it just me or is the game looking like crap graphically? For visuals it doesn't seem to have moved on at all from DAoC and some of the enviromental textures look shocking, low res and stretched to the max. I am becoming less and less impressed with the game by the day, it looks no better than Trials of Atlantis which is 3+ years old. I know it is still early days but the game needs to turn up the dial up several notches when it comes to graphics because right now it looks like a refugee from 2003. Anyway, judge for yourselves.

http://ve3dboards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=25995018

dude ... is all u care about graphics ? if so fuck off onto a ps3... a pc isnt for you ... unless you want to create ure own game ofc

 

[old.Tohtori]

Like someone said about WoW in the early days, "you have to see it in motion".

They do look like "honest" screenshots. In other words, not much different from the shots you would get these days from most MMO.

Anyway, the graphics go into the background in your mind when you play anyway.

 

[Gahn]

Doesn't really look shit to me -.-

 

[Himse]

dude ... is all u care about graphics ? if so fuck off onto a ps3... a pc isnt for you ... unless you want to create ure own game ofc

Shut up for a change, this is 2007, WoW's graphics are better than that, even from a screenshot.

WoW will probably still be a better MMO due to the fact EA now own Mythic, piece of shit really, Get it released as quick as possible, produce 100 expansions, let the support drop. EA Suck as a company.

 

[Gamah]

That "face" is absolutly shocking.

 

[Himse]

That "face" is absolutly shocking.

its all so flat, theres nothing real to it rly, just looks like the rest of the shit EA produced, flat boring and badly coded.

Like, look at C&C, it looks rubbish now tbh, different type of game i guess but still.

Guess its also built to run on the bare minimum pc.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Oh and here's a 100% fact from a game developer as myself:

Taking PR screenshots is the most f*cked up, in your face job you get while in alpha/beta phase.

You're up to your sh*t in work, you need to finish this and that by yesterday and the boss comes in "ARgbkubgur! We need 100 screenshots now for IGN!! AARgbbulgubu!!"

So, you're pissed off, launch the game and take a few quick screenshots. Or in worst case, just run through some areas recording it with fraps and use a photoshop "automated picture taker" on it.

PR screenshots are maybe 1 out of 10 times taken by someone who likes the job, has the time or is a "pro" in it.

So, don't put too much weight on them.

 

[cHodAX]

Doesn't really look shit to me -.-

That pic is the best of a bad bunch and that isn't saying much, alot of the texturing is low res and when I say low res I am talking 512x512 at best. There is no depth to the texturing or lighting either, it looks flat and lifeless. In 2003 we would have been drooling, now it looks dull as dishwater. Now have a look at the volcanic region screenshots and try telling me that isn't Vocanus from ToA with different building textures.

 

[cHodAX]

Oh and here's a 100% fact from a game developer as myself:

Taking PR screenshots is the most f*cked up, in your face job you get while in alpha/beta phase.

You're up to your sh*t in work, you need to finish this and that by yesterday and the boss comes in "ARgbkubgur! We need 100 screenshots now for IGN!! AARgbbulgubu!!"

So, you're pissed off, launch the game and take a few quick screenshots. Or in worst case, just run through some areas recording it with fraps and use a photoshop "automated picture taker" on it.

PR screenshots are maybe 1 out of 10 times taken by someone who likes the job, has the time or is a "pro" in it.

So, don't put too much weight on them.

I would normally be in agreement bud but we have seen 1000's of screenshots from Mythic in the last 6 months and none of them look any better. The character models look nice enough, the rest of the texturing is absmyl though. Even when they have shown the game off at shows it has looked no better which is really worrying.

 

[cHodAX]

This says it all really...

Does that look like a late 2007 game to you?

 

[Gamah]

This says it all really...


Does that look like a late 2007 game to you?

No! It could be a new daoc zone tbh,.

 

[Gahn]

That pic is the best of a bad bunch and that isn't saying much, alot of the texturing is low res and when I say low res I am talking 512x512 at best. There is no depth to the texturing or lighting either, it looks flat and lifeless. In 2003 we would have been drooling, now it looks dull as dishwater. Now have a look at the volcanic region screenshots and try telling me that isn't Vocanus from ToA with different building textures.

I would think they are hard working on the core of the game mechanics rather than the fluff at this stage tho, so it doesn't really look bad for an Alpha SS. Also i dunno to what kind of games u are trying to relate WAR but, being an MMO etc, i wouldn't expect it to have the same graphic as Oblivion or the likes cause of the usual problems with massive on line games.
In my humble opinion i would wait at least for some Beta ss from ppl who will actually play the game before hairing (sp?) a solid judgement.

 

[old.Tohtori]

I would normally be in agreement bud but we have seen 1000's of screenshots from Mythic in the last 6 months and none of them look any better. The character models look nice enough, the rest of the texturing is absmyl though. Even when they have shown the game off at shows it has looked no better which is really worrying.

Yes, and i believe this is just 'cause of the reason i stated.

TExturing, models etc mean really nothing if there's some pissed off employee who has bigger issues then showing the players the new sh*t that they dropped from their bunghole

Have to say, Mythic is crap at PR imaging.

 

[Svartmetall]

They look good to me. We all want WAR to be as big as possible...making it such an eyecandyfest that only the Lost PC Of Ninja can run it, and it becomes a slideshow even with all the options down if there's more than 4 Orks and a squig in the zone would not be a good way to go.
You won't find a bigger eyecandyaholic than me, but I accept there's a trade-off in MMOs in particular between looks and playability/accessibility. Does Quake 4 look better? Yes. But then I'm not hoping to play Q4 with several hundred other people at once on PCs of varying specs over the electrical interweb.

 

[Nate]

Quote from the post:

They have already upgraded to a new engine of Gamebryo (or whatever its called) and some of these screenshots are very old.

 

[cHodAX]

I would think they are hard working on the core of the game mechanics rather than the fluff at this stage tho, so it doesn't really look bad for an Alpha SS. Also i dunno to what kind of games u are trying to relate WAR but, being an MMO etc, i wouldn't expect it to have the same graphic as Oblivion or the likes cause of the usual problems with massive on line games.
In my humble opinion i would wait at least for some Beta ss from ppl who will actually play the game before hairing (sp?) a solid judgement.

Your point makes much sense but consider this, in the 9 months or so we have been getting screenshots the graphical quality hasn't increased at all. Now of course alot of the staff are working on the game mechanics but come on, the art guys have fixed skills and coding isn't one of them. You would expect the graphical quality to go up in increments over time but so far we have seen no improvments, infact we are seeing more and more DAoC assets being used each time a screenshot set is released.

 

[cHodAX]

Quote from the post:

Yep but the guy who posted it is also out of date, they have been using Gamebryo for some time and all the announcement was about was that Mythic had extended it's licence.

 

[cHodAX]

They look good to me. We all want WAR to be as big as possible...making it such an eyecandyfest that only the Lost PC Of Ninja can run it, and it becomes a slideshow even with all the options down if there's more than 4 Orks and a squig in the zone would not be a good way to go.
You won't find a bigger eyecandyaholic than me, but I accept there's a trade-off in MMOs in particular between looks and playability/accessibility. Does Quake 4 look better? Yes. But then I'm not hoping to play Q4 with several hundred other people at once on PCs of varying specs over the electrical interweb.

Point taken but do we have to accept a game that looks dated just because it is an MMO and has to cater for alot of players? No. There are other MMO's around that look alot better and do it on machines with very reasonable specs, there are plenty of games that look much better on 2 year old machines with 2 year graphics cards. You know as well as I that DAoC through it's various versions was very sluggish on most hardware until recently and not because it was graphically stunning but because it was poorly coded and used a bolted on graphics engine. My point still stands, why are we getting 2003 level graphics from a late 2007 game? The average PC is alot more powerful than it was 4 years ago, the average graphics card has twice or more the amount of memory and a huge amount more pixel processing power. 1gb is pretty much standard for system memory and we live in the age where a dual core CPU can be bought for under £100, yet people seem ready to accept something that didn't look cutting edge 4 years ago nevermind now.

 

[Dreami]

So many sad bunnies here it makes me laugh irl

 

[Keitan]

anyway if it was high graphics all would go on the site saying " My pc is too laggy!!!"

so good graphics = lag
ones like that = no lag unless shit pc

if you want graphics go to a console like ps3.. dont cry tho when a new game on the pc releases crap graphics

 

[old.Tohtori]

Did a little photoshopping (nothing big) on that picture to show what they COULD do. Used to do this on a couple of games

Nothing relevant, just fun to show.

Spoiler

 

[cHodAX]

Did a little photoshopping (nothing big) on that picture to show what they COULD do. Used to do this on a couple of games

Nothing relevant, just fun to show.

Spoiler

Better for sure, still the volcanic region and alot of the enviromental texturing is out of the arc and even your photoshop skills would tested to make them look good.

Fingers crossed they are just placeholders because if they aren't I won't be buying the game, it took Mythic 2 years to get any kind of polish on the graphics in DAoC. They have no excuses this time as they have a massive staff and EA funding behind them, they can't deliver a half finished game with ropey graphics and expect me to buy again. What is the saying? Once bitten, twice shy?

 

[MaditioN]

its a year until release, gotta laugh at the crybabies :]
WAR even supports new physix cards, can imagine it will be a fucking graphic fest when its done after seeing what the physix cards can do(and they are at a early stage).

 

[Gamah]

So many sad bunnies here it makes me laugh irl

Says the sad little **** who almost had a haemorrhage every time he died in RvR..hohoh.

 

[Gamah]

its a year until release, gotta laugh at the crybabies :]
WAR even supports new physix cards, can imagine it will be a fucking graphic fest when its done after seeing what the physix cards can do(and they are at a early stage).

Oh yes, because they will take off. heh..wow that low rez barrel looks ownage as it bounces off the shitly textured floor. But even with these uber "physix" card's you'll still spend your whole time on the forums whining because your ping is above 150ms.

 

[Calaen]

If it makes me tingle like I did when I first saw the entrance into the ml5 dungeon in the desert then its a good job

The best experience comes from the group of people you are running around with as well. Most of my old friends from Daoc will be playing War and I hope to relive some of the good old days. They can stick the graphics up my bum if they want as long as I can kill things.

 

[cHodAX]

its a year until release, gotta laugh at the crybabies :]
WAR even supports new physix cards, can imagine it will be a fucking graphic fest when its done after seeing what the physix cards can do(and they are at a early stage).

Physix? You mean the card that halves game performance because it doesn't work properly?

Aww, you have to feel for those poor muppets who spent £200 on a card that halves your framerate for sake of a few extra sparkles on explosions.

Seriously, forget about Physix and include support for Havoc, a much more elegant soloution that scales across multiple CPU's which we are all going to have over the next couple of years. £200 physics accelerator cards? They stick up thier bum holes, I will use the second core on my cpu.

 

[liloe]

.....I will use the second core on my cpu.

I will use my 2nd CPU and 2x HT processing time, MUAHAHAHAHAHA. Wisely combined with now 4gig of RAM and if they release War as x64 bin I'm gonna party ^^ All we need further on is then a release for MacOS, so it might be time to start installing it to get used to the system =)