the difference beteen an AC raid and a `takes far too long for the enmie` raid.

[censi]

the only reason you would make a post like this is because your conscience is like nagging at you... (which is a good thing, much better than the cry more nerf bainshees u lost relix )

Look at it from a neutral point of view and theres only what conclusion.

So call it AC in drag or whatever its the same shit at the end of the day.

Hibs have totally resisted resorting to doing the same thing back, they will keep taking your relics back in primetime when you have twice the amount of bodies to defend. And you will be able to do nothing about it.

No need to say anything more the above statement is a fact which basically shows why hibernia is prolly the best realm to play in terms of playing in a way which promotes fun instead of lame cowardness

 

[Muylaetrix]

let me play a wargame and i`ll let you pretend you`re an angel.

 

[pip]

Hibs are morons Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery

P.s there is only 1 elite realm that is midgard:worthy:

 

[Sharkith]

going to bed a few hours later than your opponent is not evil, even if it might prove very frustrating for the opponent.

dude I have sat all night on Relic raids in this game on Prydwen pre cluster all of those raids were fiercely contested and there were equal numbers right until 6am the next morning and we had work and shit to go to. I have been there but all the time when that happened and the grind was there we always had a closely contested fight one where some mad fuckers kept going and just would not lie down. So I know what a long fight is this was not even remotely close!

It pales in comparison. I dunno why but the server just doesn't have that never say die attitude.. Its sad but I just would not feel inclined to do it anymore. Maybe you guys have it I dunno but these days I prefer to get up in the morning feeling like I can think straight and do my job.

I know most of you probably work and might be on annual leave and stuff but this incident is not the same. Its sad actually to have to hear people complain about the server and this shit because there just isn't the population to support round the clock gaming.

You are entitled to do what you like - never let anyone tell you how to play. However please don't come along and try to convice people that what you did was somehow in everyone's interests. Its better to just leave it - shit happens people will do stuff when it suits them - so fuck it.

People will call it lame though and part of me feels that we shouldn't (even though I have done so). We should all be thinking very hard about why guys who want to play late at night can't get a game and looking to see what we can do about it.

Instead we have peeps posting shite like its 24/7 game and fuckdog comments like we pay our subs.

Its just so hard to find a solution for the imbalance. Its not a demographic its just an imbalance. Why don't some of you roll Mid/Hib toons and try playing against each other? How many late night people are there even? <shrugs>

 

[Sharkith]

Hibs are morons Couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery

P.s there is only 1 elite realm that is midgard:worthy:

yeah we know Mids are teh Leet thats why we sent you there - to lower the average skill.

<joke btw>

 

[pip]

May i add mids are the only realm to take relics with no help prime time and was the first

 

[Mastade]

May i add mids are the only realm to take relics with no help prime time and was the first

Last relic hib took was without the "help" of mids.. go figure xD

 

[Aiteal]

May i add mids are the only realm to take relics with no help prime time and was the first

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showthread.php?t=171368

 

[Gahn]

can you guys still think reasonable through the rabid red haze that seems to cloud all your visions ?

Am kinda inclined to give the reason where it belongs, sadly u are dead wrong in here :/

 

[Reno]

can you guys still think reasonable through the rabid red haze that seems to cloud all your visions ?

Can you still maintain you're thinking clearly and seeing things as they will be in the future? All I see is selfcentered narrow-minded self cleansing BS.

Danita

 

[Golena]

Perhaps if you concentrated on playing prime time instead of death-oclock in the morning the the two toons in your sig may end up with more than a combined total of 40k rp's.

Lots of free rp's available 7pm-ish to 11pm-ish too you know.

This would of been a great insult, had the guy not come back like a week ago. Now it just makes you look kinda silly.

 

[Solari]

While for the casual observing victim there is no differnece between beeing steamrolled at 4 o clock at night by 2-3-4 fg who either just logged in 15 mins ago or through a bunch of people most of which have been playing over 8 hours non stop.

Both are pretty sad scenarios aren't they?

 

[Icebreaker]

Both are pretty sad scenarios aren't they?

Muylaetrix is a sad scenario aswell

 

[Coldbeard]

Someone in this thread reminds me of this guy

I wonder who.

 

[fettoken]

AC raid is a phrase...... it basically means you take them when theres no defenders online, and thats what albion always does

i dont know why you try to argue it

you cant justify it, please stfu its getting old

your idiots just face it

We are prepared to do anything for King Arthur!coughrelicscough.. obviosly those that lost the relic didn´t serve their realm properly.

 

[rampant]

Someone in this thread reminds me of this guy

I wonder who.

yourself??? - you seem to be the one who is full of the brown smelly stuff:touch:

 

[Dard]

This would of been a great insult, had the guy not come back like a week ago. Now it just makes you look kinda silly.

So he's been away & been back a week & already he's posting a load of crap, thats excellent, i expect in another week he will excel himself with his amazing insight's into how to keep this game fun for as many people as long as possible.

 

[Coldbeard]

yourself??? - you seem to be the one who is full of the brown smelly stuff:touch:

No worries, didn't expect people with mental disabilities like yourself to understand anyways.

 

[Enli]

dunno why we try, muyl keeps defending himself like it's the holy crusade and even that was a pretty fucked up thing

and if it is like u said not equally divided, seems like more people with a life on hib
we will be back prime-time
green will infest ur pretty lands
and we wil grow in ur puddles of tears, crybabies

 

[pjuppe]

I`ve learned one thing. the shorter a fight is, the more chance mids and hibs have of winning it. the longer a fight takes, the better chances become for albion.

it seems to me that during the afternoon, untill about 10-11 o clock in the evening, hibs and mids can easely match alb numbers and will win most of the major battles. if albs can hold the enemie at bay untilll after 1 o clock, victory becomes much easier for albs.

haha! the albion endurence, more op:ed than any monster rez, sorc, wl, bainshee, bd, baseline stun, MoC-shaman combined.

 

[rampant]

No worries, didn't expect people with mental disabilities like yourself to understand anyways.

really - you need to read the stuff that you come out with

 

[Groal]

well .....
i think one of the things alot of people forget, is although we choose different realms from some others, we are ALL part of the same community and i dont understand why we cant try and keep the entire community in a better mood, if every1 is having fun and enjoying the game then more will play and for longer.

in a time when we seem to be losing players hand over fist pushing the limits of some peoples patience (not me ofc, im far to chilled out for soemthing like this to worry me) dosent seem like a good idea, sure u can do a long raid and wait for all to log out and then pve the relics, but why not just batter the realm and take a ton of keeps, u might get a bit of whine, but nothing on the scale of taking a relic in what is not considered primetime and it therefore wont annoy the majority of the community (which u are a part of).

im prolly spouting crap ofc, but ive never seen other realms as "the enemy" they just happen to be people who chose a different icon at creation and are the poeple that i compete against, and generally most of them are the guys who give me the most fun from the game.
anyway thats it from me, prolly all crap but hey

have fun all, and play nice

 

[Tehmeh]

im sure somewhere in the CoC it says, in RVR, anything goes, ANYTHING as long as its within the game rules goes. simple as.

fair enough you may complain that the alb zerg ran for longer than most decided to stay online, but i am sure if you ask all the people in the alb BG if they were having fun they would tell you that they were.

im sure many armies in the past have thought WTF?!? as shells and gunfire starts at 3am when they snoozing, cuddling their teddy-bears, but thats because to win a fight, the best advantage is to catch the enemy off guard.

for those who complain that its not fair, well done to you, here have a flag :england:

people will always do what they want to do, if hibs do an AC raid on alb, albs complain, if mids AC hibs (yea right...), im sure hibs complain, so why not just accept that we are all individuals with different idea's and reasons for playing, but we are all here to have some fun.

complaining and whining because someone took a relic while a lot of your realm was offline is going to get us no-where. i have personally rang RL friends of mine at 3am because i was online and spotted hibs attacking hurb, which was holding a hib relic at the time to rally some defence, some people may say thats because i have no life, some people may be right, but who cares? we had great fun fighting the hibs, i think we lost in the end, but lots of realmpoints were shared amongst us.

i work in a nightclub, so i tend not to get on between the hours if 7pm and 4am, but if i do get on at 4am, and some of my friends are on i see no harm in going and beasting our way around mid/hib, whichever seems weak to an assault, this is because its when i play, some of the best fun i have had is at 4am, when there isnt a zerg of 1million albs vs 1million hibs vs 1million mids, at that time in the morning, its even possible to have the mythical 1v1 combat so many of us have heard about.

in closing, this thread sounds like a lot of people spitting the dummy out of the pram because people did something they didnt agree with, i dont agree with my neighbour for having a shiny new car, when i cant afford one right now, but it doesnt mean i am going to camp his doorstep with a banner saying he is wrong, lighten up, its a game

Teh

 

[Gahn]

im sure somewhere in the CoC it says, in RVR, anything goes, ANYTHING as long as its within the game rules goes. simple as.

fair enough you may complain that the alb zerg ran for longer than most decided to stay online, but i am sure if you ask all the people in the alb BG if they were having fun they would tell you that they were.

im sure many armies in the past have thought WTF?!? as shells and gunfire starts at 3am when they snoozing, cuddling their teddy-bears, but thats because to win a fight, the best advantage is to catch the enemy off guard.

for those who complain that its not fair, well done to you, here have a flag :england:

people will always do what they want to do, if hibs do an AC raid on alb, albs complain, if mids AC hibs (yea right...), im sure hibs complain, so why not just accept that we are all individuals with different idea's and reasons for playing, but we are all here to have some fun.

complaining and whining because someone took a relic while a lot of your realm was offline is going to get us no-where. i have personally rang RL friends of mine at 3am because i was online and spotted hibs attacking hurb, which was holding a hib relic at the time to rally some defence, some people may say thats because i have no life, some people may be right, but who cares? we had great fun fighting the hibs, i think we lost in the end, but lots of realmpoints were shared amongst us.

i work in a nightclub, so i tend not to get on between the hours if 7pm and 4am, but if i do get on at 4am, and some of my friends are on i see no harm in going and beasting our way around mid/hib, whichever seems weak to an assault, this is because its when i play, some of the best fun i have had is at 4am, when there isnt a zerg of 1million albs vs 1million hibs vs 1million mids, at that time in the morning, its even possible to have the mythical 1v1 combat so many of us have heard about.

in closing, this thread sounds like a lot of people spitting the dummy out of the pram because people did something they didnt agree with, i dont agree with my neighbour for having a shiny new car, when i cant afford one right now, but it doesnt mean i am going to camp his doorstep with a banner saying he is wrong, lighten up, its a game

Teh

Yeah that's pretty lame, period.

 

[Sharkith]

people will always do what they want to do, if hibs do an AC raid on alb, albs complain, if mids AC hibs (yea right...), im sure hibs complain, so why not just accept that we are all individuals with different idea's and reasons for playing, but we are all here to have some fun.

and you don't get that the forums are an extension of the game. The game is still being played here. It doesn't take a genius to work that out. So tell me if it WAR in game and all that bullshit why can't people then express themselves on a forum?

Theres no point coming here spitting your own dummy out because people tell some of your realm they are wankers. Capice?

 

[Vandar]

Its weird how the population at 04:00 in the morning is so oddly distributed.

I believe at 04:00 there were about 50 albs on, around 5 mids, no idea how many hibs but probably similar to Mid.
Given the primetime % of players per realm this just doesn't stack up so what is it?
Do more people who play Alb work shifts, they're students, insomniacs, dole dossers? Or do all the later night people who play Mid/Hib prime time switch to Alb at night?

 

[Aran Thule]

i don`t plan days in advance, i look at the map and plan the next 5 mins and form a strategy for the next half hour, over and over and over. i set goals but I am ready to change them on the spot if conditions change.

And that is one of the major advantage of albion, numbers.
The only way i could really get a sizable force that might stand a chance against the horde of albion was to plan it.
And even then we normally find ourselves swiftly outnumbered.

I think of all the relic raids ive run the only time ive taken one in the morning was around 3 or 4 am and i had started that at 1pm saturday and had been running it for over 14 hours.
If its a weekday i will not lead a raid past midnight as it is unfair on thoose that have to work and people need rest.

So you had the BG that took Eras, you then took a keep and gained port there, you could have stopped there but you didnt.

The thing with alarm clock/red bull/whatever raids as its frustrating and annoying for people because they cannot be involved and it excludes them.
Like it not relics make a big differance and if you take it in a manner that annoys people then you can expect payback.
Its not as if albs dont have the numbers to do it primetime, but repeated early morning keep takes have formed a lot of bad feeling.
Also as results from a poll i did showed given a choise of who to attack about twice as many people would go for the alb rather then the hib/mid.

There is no Hibgard, i dont communicate or plan things with my enemies, every realm has got hit by both realms at once, several times ive done a relic raid and mids managed to sneak the relic and we got nothing.
What we do share is a dislike for albion and as long as things albs keep making themselves a target by doing things like this they will keep getting hit.

 

[Darzil]

What people moan about is that albs never start a major event during prime time that can last throughout the day. When mids/hibs do it, it starts during the middle of the day, maybe around lunchtime then carries on through out the day, maybe lasting 4-6 hours and it's usualy finished by 12 Am.

I tend to log on at 7/8 pm, and carry on til around 10:30-11pm. As a result, due to starting hours earlier, Hibs/Mids are usually in control, and I get to help start to fight back, usually outnumbered, but aren't around for Alb finally getting on top.

In my view, therefore, starting at around lunchtime is hours before primetime!

Darzil

 

[Muylaetrix]

And that is one of the major advantage of albion, numbers.
The only way i could really get a sizable force that might stand a chance against the horde of albion was to plan it.
And even then we normally find ourselves swiftly outnumbered.

I can`t tell how the situation is in midgard or hibernia.

is there an RVR BG running at all times ? Not in albion. i guess 85% of the time there is no BG whatsoever running in RVR.

Albion can loose 2 keeps in half an hour and have the inner gate of a third keep being rammed down, no BG whatsoever.

It seems especially in hours of dire need that NOT A SINGLE ALB is willing to take the responsability to start a BG and look bad by being the one that lead the BG that failed to protect a relic.

I`m one of the fools who at such a time starts a BG and tries to (taking someone elses expression) herd the cats, not lead the army, towards a common goal.

I think i am one of the masters of defense, and i think i have been able to bring multiple mid and hib assaults to a grinding standstill with INFERIOR numbers at choke points untill our numbers exceed the enemies and we take over the offense.

Overall, and in the end, alb numbers are superior, true. but not always and at anytime.

I think there is a very BIG difference in leading and alb or mid or hib BG.

I don`t think i ever have near the controll some of the mid or hib BG leaders have over their BG and it`s actions.

>>So you had the BG that took Eras, you then took a keep and gained port there, you could have stopped there but you didnt.

I think i would never get the opportunity to lead again if i said at 2 o clock, `ok, we have the realm mission done, we opened the relic gate`, that`s it, we should go to bed. I would get crucified by my own army.

>>The thing with alarm clock/red bull/whatever raids as its frustrating and annoying for people because they cannot be involved and it excludes them.

They tend to include 75%+ of all the people online of the realm doing them...

At a certain point during a long lasting campaign, a certain amount of monumentum builds up. breaking that monumentum of everybody involved by making a radical discision to abbandon the campaign in a win/win situation is political suiscide.

 

[Chronictank]

>>The thing with alarm clock/red bull/whatever raids as its frustrating and annoying for people because they cannot be involved and it excludes them.

They tend to include 75%+ of all the people online of the realm doing them...

At a certain point during a long lasting campaign, a certain amount of monumentum builds up. breaking that monumentum of everybody involved by making a radical discision to abbandon the campaign in a win/win situation is political suiscide.

I think they are saying it's no conincidence the raid was run on a Sunday, regardless of the reasons for carrying on (i would have too), the fact of the matter is the main leaders in mid and hib (at least when i played) have jobs therefore always log off at a reasonable hour resulting in a leaderless bg and inevitably everyone logging off due to little/no leadership. As you well know yourself is what happens when say you were to log off.
Back on topic, it is very doable to have sucessful raids run during prime time, hell i have run a few myself (admitedly to ge the title ) but they take planning and organisation to pull off. CM prooved very effectively that you need little/no planning to organise raids through the night by grabbing a relic with 2 fg (i think)

That said;
I fail to see what all the whine is about tbh, this is nothing new and will never be any different.
Its a fact that albion has a significant number of players who play at night time for whatever reason, they play regularly at this time so its hardly unexpected.
People playing these hours are expected to stay in pve?, after all if they kill soloers they get whined at, if they kill mini grps they get whined at, if they take towers they get whined at... no winning with you lot is there really