the difference beteen an AC raid and a `takes far too long for the enmie` raid.

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with `AC` raids, people log in at a certain point where they know they will not have competition mostly by setting allarmclocks at un ungodlyhour .

with the `takes far too long raids`, you have a technically finsished raid (retaking eras in this case), but a substantial amount of people left in the BG and motivated and not sleapy enough to continue with the action if you find a new target and can keep the spirit in the BG alive.

While for the casual observing victim there is no differnece between beeing steamrolled at 4 o clock at night by 2-3-4 fg who either just logged in 15 mins ago or through a bunch of people most of which have been playing over 8 hours non stop.



I`ve learned one thing. the shorter a fight is, the more chance mids and hibs have of winning it. the longer a fight takes, the better chances become for albion.

it seems to me that during the afternoon, untill about 10-11 o clock in the evening, hibs and mids can easely match alb numbers and will win most of the major battles. if albs can hold the enemie at bay untilll after 1 o clock, victory becomes much easier for albs.


AC raids are evil. i can agree on that.
going to bed a few hours later than your opponent is not evil, even if it might prove very frustrating for the opponent.
 

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lol, is really all I can say.. I guess you are grasping for whatever to defend your crap dont you? :/
 

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AC raid is a phrase...... it basically means you take them when theres no defenders online, and thats what albion always does

i dont know why you try to argue it

you cant justify it, please stfu its getting old

your idiots just face it
 

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The term is different but its still the god damn same thing, taking relics/keeps off primetime. the amount of sleep the raiders got doesnt change the fact that you took something when a huge majority of your opponents were unable to do one jack thing about it, because they were asleep.. AC raid, Red Bull raid, Late Night raid, graveyard shift whatever.. same pile of shit, different name..
 

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Well why don't albs jus start their raids abit earlier? and then they couldn't be accused of pve'ing or what ever it is then?

What people moan about is that albs never start a major event during prime time that can last throughout the day. When mids/hibs do it, it starts during the middle of the day, maybe around lunchtime then carries on through out the day, maybe lasting 4-6 hours and it's usualy finished by 12 Am.

But when ever albs do something, it's always at that magic time 4 am. And people can't deny it as irvr never seems to last a day without the albs retaking it back during the night when practicly no one is on.
 

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Muylaetrix said:
with `AC` raids, people log in at a certain point where they know they will not have competition mostly by setting allarmclocks at un ungodlyhour .

with the `takes far too long raids`, you have a technically finsished raid (retaking eras in this case), but a substantial amount of people left in the BG and motivated and not sleapy enough to continue with the action if you find a new target and can keep the spirit in the BG alive.

While for the casual observing victim there is no differnece between beeing steamrolled at 4 o clock at night by 2-3-4 fg who either just logged in 15 mins ago or through a bunch of people most of which have been playing over 8 hours non stop.



I`ve learned one thing. the shorter a fight is, the more chance mids and hibs have of winning it. the longer a fight takes, the better chances become for albion.

it seems to me that during the afternoon, untill about 10-11 o clock in the evening, hibs and mids can easely match alb numbers and will win most of the major battles. if albs can hold the enemie at bay untilll after 1 o clock, victory becomes much easier for albs.


AC raids are evil. i can agree on that.
going to bed a few hours later than your opponent is not evil, even if it might prove very frustrating for the opponent.


roflmao
 

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brad said:
Well why don't albs jus start their raids abit earlier? and then they couldn't be accused of pve'ing or what ever it is then?

the first pushes at eras were done around 9.00 CET, i would name that the start of the raid.

brad said:
What people moan about is that albs never start a major event during prime time that can last throughout the day. When mids/hibs do it, it starts during the middle of the day, maybe around lunchtime then carries on through out the day, maybe lasting 4-6 hours and it's usualy finished by 12 Am.

it seems that during the afternoon, certainly mids, maybe even hibs outnumber albs, the later it gets, the more this ballance of power shifts in our advantage.

brad said:
But when ever albs do something, it's always at that magic time 4 am. And people can't deny it as irvr never seems to last a day without the albs retaking it back during the night when practicly no one is on.

at 4 am, we were already controlling the BG for over 8 hours...

Blaming albs for having different demographics is discrimination, stop it.
 

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you can dress it up all you like its still a lame way to get relics. all they have really done is bring down a ton of shit onto albion, by the end of the week you wont have any relics because we will take them prime time.
 

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Funny :)
It's just the same shit with a different name.
 

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Muylaetrix said:
with `AC` raids, people log in at a certain point where they know they will not have competition mostly by setting allarmclocks at un ungodlyhour .

with the `takes far too long raids`, you have a technically finsished raid (retaking eras in this case), but a substantial amount of people left in the BG and motivated and not sleapy enough to continue with the action if you find a new target and can keep the spirit in the BG alive.

While for the casual observing victim there is no differnece between beeing steamrolled at 4 o clock at night by 2-3-4 fg who either just logged in 15 mins ago or through a bunch of people most of which have been playing over 8 hours non stop.



I`ve learned one thing. the shorter a fight is, the more chance mids and hibs have of winning it. the longer a fight takes, the better chances become for albion.

it seems to me that during the afternoon, untill about 10-11 o clock in the evening, hibs and mids can easely match alb numbers and will win most of the major battles. if albs can hold the enemie at bay untilll after 1 o clock, victory becomes much easier for albs.


AC raids are evil. i can agree on that.
going to bed a few hours later than your opponent is not evil, even if it might prove very frustrating for the opponent.

Repped for actually stating something that most of our enemies are too bitter to undertand (and for getting me all them free rp )
 

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Raven said:
you can dress it up all you like its still a lame way to get relics. all they have really done is bring down a ton of shit onto albion, by the end of the week you wont have any relics because we will take them prime time.

Lol - yeah right, sure u will ...

:puke: at this hib mentality that u r somehow gods... ull get one relic from us and thats your own one back (prolly at 5am)
 

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knighthood said:
Lol - yeah right, sure u will ...

:puke: at this hib mentality that u r somehow gods... ull get one relic from us and thats your own one back (prolly at 5am)
er no, we are going to farm you and then take your relics, there is nothing you can do about it :)

:note, this is just gentle goading, i mean no harm :) i hope that on the days of the MRE that a lot of people come out from all sides and we have as much fun as the last ones.
 

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Quote:
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Bullshit.


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Congrats for taking the bollocks posted on these boards to another level.

you are even better at quoting than Raid.
 

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knighthood said:
Repped for actually stating something that most of our enemies are too bitter to undertand (and for getting me all them free rp )

Perhaps if you concentrated on playing prime time instead of death-oclock in the morning the the two toons in your sig may end up with more than a combined total of 40k rp's.

Lots of free rp's available 7pm-ish to 11pm-ish too you know.
 

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you can't justifie it, it was a crappy way of getting it
u wear out people who have a life (not saying u don't) and can't stay on
going from saturday to sunday ok but sunday->monday is simply avoiding people and pve ur way tru it

holding by demographs is bs aswell, there is a mix of people troughout the realms
looking at the fact that u denied a lot of albs the fun of a relicraid means ur a great leader... sry but u denied every1 the fun/participation in a relic attack/defense

if u really wanna justify smth, organise ur realm, plan a strategy (not doing it between 2 <->7 am ffs) and involve ur realm in an event aswell as the other realm u attack
it might be a hard task to organise an entire realm but look at mastard, he's doing a good job ( it doesnt have to succeed but he gets people together for casual fun all together, incuding u albs, ice wizzies enjoyed his raid imo)

why try defending urself with a 24/7-reason, hours CM plays etc
just look at this as a game, the thing u play to have fun with others, so include many people, allies and foes alike

(dunno if u actually were leading but the points are the same)
 

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Shike said:
he speaks the truth though :(

he`s to biased to see that someone with another opnion might have a valid point too.
 

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Muylaetrix said:
he`s to biased to see that someone with another opnion might have a valid point too.

he still speaks the truth tbh :(
 

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its funny to see all the hib and mid whingers complaining about an alb raid that starts PRIME time - carries on cos they wanna play for longer than you guys.

nicely lead by asy / mulaetrix :)
 

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Enli said:
you can't justifie it, it was a crappy way of getting it
u wear out people who have a life (not saying u don't) and can't stay on
going from saturday to sunday ok but sunday->monday is simply avoiding people and pve ur way tru it

I don`t blame the enemie for giving up, but you blame us for not stopping, right ? And yes, wearing out the enemie is one of my major tactics.

Enli said:
holding by demographs is bs aswell, there is a mix of people troughout the realms looking at the fact that u denied a lot of albs the fun of a relicraid means ur a great leader... sry but u denied every1 the fun/participation in a relic attack/defense

Demographics are a FACT, the realms are not equally distributed by players of same numbers / age / occupation / ability to spend time etc..

and about the denieng people fun ? omg this starts to look like the `omg you added on my fight crap`.

hell i even had a rr1 level 43 mincer in my group (he got 2l4 in the end and was like `WAAAAAAAGH`), i rallied EVERY single alb i could.

I take it as a FACT that the 3 realms have their time of the day where they are most powerfull due to having a higher percentage of their players online at that time. and yes, albs seem to play later/longer than mids/hibs. expecting us to stop at a certain hour because the enemie numbers are dwinling away WILL NEVER HAPPEN. When you have the enemie by the balls after 6 hours, you crush em, don`t let em loose and say `ok, i`ll let of, we`ll continue tomoz when it suits you`.

Enli said:
if u really wanna justify smth, organise ur realm, plan a strategy (not doing it between 2 <->7 am ffs) and involve ur realm in an event aswell as the other realm u attack

i don`t plan days in advance, i look at the map and plan the next 5 mins and form a strategy for the next half hour, over and over and over. i set goals but I am ready to change them on the spot if conditions change.

Enli said:
it might be a hard task to organise an entire realm but look at mastard, he's doing a good job ( it doesnt have to succeed but he gets people together for casual fun all together, incuding u albs, ice wizzies enjoyed his raid imo)

all respect to mastard, a great leader. i had a very good time.

Mastard rocks at planning an event days in advance, i am better at commin onlin, seeing we are about to get completely trashed, start a BG (because there is never one in albion in moments of dire need, seems like noone wants to have the honours of leading an alb BG to defeat while losing a relic.) and organize a defense.

We both have our styles, they differ a lot.

Enli said:
why try defending urself with a 24/7-reason, hours CM plays etc
just look at this as a game, the thing u play to have fun with others, so include many people, allies and foes alike. (dunno if u actually were leading but the points are the same)

i had fun with 20-40 albs (over 50% of albs online). do you want me to say at 2 o clock to an enthousiastic mob of followers `soz, it`s late, we leaving RVR, anyone who still is up for it can come join me for a legion raid ? the rest should go to bed or start crafting ?` do be serious.
 

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cmr said:
AC raid is a phrase...... it basically means you take them when theres no defenders online, and thats what albion always does

i dont know why you try to argue it

you cant justify it, please stfu its getting old

your idiots just face it

o'rly?
 

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rampant said:
its funny to see all the hib and mid whingers complaining about an alb raid that starts PRIME time - carries on cos they wanna play for longer than you guys.

nicely lead by asy / mulaetrix :)

I just took a tower.So my Raid started now and don't whine if i take the Relics at 4am in 3 days...it started primetime!
 

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Icebreaker said:
I just took a tower.So my Raid started now and don't whine if i take the Relics at 4am in 3 days...it started primetime!

if you can stay awake that long and lead at least a fg through it all that time, you are a GOD.
 

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Icebreaker said:
I just took a tower.So my Raid started now and don't whine if i take the Relics at 4am in 3 days...it started primetime!

Typical bloody box head attitude. Thank fuck we don't get towels in DAoC :D











It was a joke btw.
 

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Muylaetrix said:
if you can stay awake that long and lead at least a fg through it all that time, you are a GOD.

I don't need a fg. I can do that alone with closed eyes while sleeping at 4am!
Nothing special in ganking Guards.No Plan needed and most important..no brain necessary.

I just log in, look on the Map until nothing happens anymore and then i go pwn guards!

Thank you
 

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Muylaetrix said:
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Bullshit.




you are even better at quoting than Raid.

It was clearly edited for truth, but u didn't get it ^^
 

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Gahn said:
It was clearly edited for truth, but u didn't get it ^^

can you guys still think reasonable through the rabid red haze that seems to cloud all your visions ?
 

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