The Diesel Decade

[Moriath]

That's funny, US warranties on the Prius's traction battery are 8 or 10 years/100k miles. Toyota UK offers an 11 years unlimited mileage warranty on the Prius hybrid system.

So where did you get your information from? Or is it the usual "pull something out of my arse and post it as though I know what I'm talking about" nonsense?

From someone who runs one for private hire. I didn't say they don't give warranty. I said they won't give them an extended warranty. Which they will do on May other parts of the vehicle

 

[Scouse]

Sustrans are incompetent

I'd give you that - but it could also be because a lack of funding means no centralised plan for volunteers to follow?

Love the cycle route network - but it needs to be better signed and their online presence needs to be much more easily searchable - trying to use their maps is a complete non-started...

 

[old.Tohtori]

Is there such a thing as "status" on the internet?

Yes infact. It can be mirrored to your status among friends/aquintances/oves ones. For example your GF may hold you in high regard, as could a member of this forum(insert joke here).

Do you have to care about it? Ofcourse not, no more then you would have to with any other opinion.

Also if speaking of status in the sense of power, that too comes true. For example a youtuber like ray william johnson would have more pull over people then any of us.

 

[Job]

Don't even start me on trains...where in the bowels of incompetence did the the idea fester to put a high speed rail link in...build a motorway ffs...how many high speed trains run a day and how many passengers...it's just ridiculous...more people go past in 30 mins on the M6 than high speed rail users all day.

 

[Tom]

From someone who runs one for private hire. I didn't say they don't give warranty. I said they won't give them an extended warranty. Which they will do on May other parts of the vehicle

http://www.toyota.co.uk/insurance-and-warranty/toyota-warranty

Wat

 

[Tom]

I'd give you that - but it could also be because a lack of funding means no centralised plan for volunteers to follow?

Love the cycle route network - but it needs to be better signed and their online presence needs to be much more easily searchable - trying to use their maps is a complete non-started...

I informed them of a fallen leaves issue on the Fallowfield Loop in Manchester. I asked them if, using their contacts, they could just have a word with the council and send a man with one of those little truck things to clean them up.

They said I could volunteer for Sustrans and help out. I said I didn't want to do that, and could they please just inform the council? They said they have no money to clean the route. In my mind, I said "you stupid fucking cunts, I'm not asking you to clean it, just to email the council and get them to do it". In reality, I said something like "I give up".

And they also think that this is suitable for cycling:



NCN1 in Sittingbourne.

 

[Syri]

Don't even start me on trains...where in the bowels of incompetence did the the idea fester to put a high speed rail link in...build a motorway ffs...how many high speed trains run a day and how many passengers...it's just ridiculous...more people go past in 30 mins on the M6 than high speed rail users all day.

The idea of the new railway is to try to take people off the roads. Basically, they're trying to undo what happened in the 60s, where about half the railway network was shut down in favour of motorways. Now they've gone CO2 mad, and realised that the trains might not have been such a bad idea after all. For some reason though, it's cheaper to build a new line to take high speed trains than to adapt and expand the existing network...

 

[Moriath]

http://www.toyota.co.uk/insurance-and-warranty/toyota-warranty

Wat

Ok I was only repeating what was the case a couple years ago seems they changed it now. Guess they have more data on how long the batteries will last now

 

[Job]

Take people off the roads....
Oh really...trains are shit...over priced..ludicrously over engineered and can only run on one track..if they had perfected the car first they would laugh at anyone suggesting laying down miles of steel track.

 

[old.Tohtori]

Trains take less space compared to freeways, make less noise, pollute less and with good f*cking planning(key note there) can get you to any larger then medium settlement at which point connecting transportation does the rest.

 

[Tom]

The idea of the new railway is to try to take people off the roads. Basically, they're trying to undo what happened in the 60s, where about half the railway network was shut down in favour of motorways. Now they've gone CO2 mad, and realised that the trains might not have been such a bad idea after all. For some reason though, it's cheaper to build a new line to take high speed trains than to adapt and expand the existing network...

Actually much of the railway network was closed because nobody was using it, and because many of the lines were remnants of a time when railway companies would compete by building lines that went to the same places, sometimes with rival stations on opposite sides of the same road.

The real mistake they made was to allow those abandoned railways to fall into disrepair and to be built over.

 

[DaGaffer]

Trains take less space compared to freeways, make less noise, pollute less and with good f*cking planning(key note there) can get you to any larger then medium settlement at which point connecting transportation does the rest.

Unfortunately railways don't work without state subsidies. This is pretty much a given everywhere on the planet. Within individual networks there are efficient and even profitable lines, but they usually are offset by the majority of lines that make a loss.

 

[DaGaffer]

Tom is right, and you're failing at common sense because you don't want to lose status on the internet by admitting you're not exactly in the ballpark.

Actually, I think Scouse is on the money. Cars are NOT bought on the basis of utility, as a purchase decision they're usually a lousy idea. So you buy a car based on wants as well as needs. Part of that " want" calculation is that the IC engine has set a level of convenience that may not be what you rationally need, but its what you want and expect. This is why BMW have built a hybrid and pure electric version of the i3, and they expect the hybrid to outsell the pure electric by 10:1 even though their audience almost certainly don't need the hybrid (since most will have a second car anyway).

 

[Job]

Was in Citreon dealers today getting the wife a C1 on contract hire..its zero tax 65mpg av.....83 motorway..comes with touch screen..bluetooth..screen mirror...100 quid a month.

 

[old.user4556]

Does she get a paper bag with it to put on her head?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Unfortunately railways don't work without state subsidies. This is pretty much a given everywhere on the planet. Within individual networks there are efficient and even profitable lines, but they usually are offset by the majority of lines that make a loss.

Works in Finland where the only railway network at all is owned and governed by the state.

 

[DaGaffer]

Works in Finland where the only railway network at all is owned and governed by the state.

Depends what you mean by "works". State ownership isn't an efficient transport solution.

 

[Ormorof]

Depends what you mean by "works". State ownership isn't an efficient transport solution.

It works quite nicely in a country with a relatively small population (VR while complained about by finns is regularly considered one if the best railway companies in the world) with lots of investment in infrastructure - also it helps the routes are relatively new not forced to stick to 200 year old plans

In germany they have part private majority public owned train system and it is cheap & pretty efficient

Just because British Rail was rubbish doesnt mean it can't be done

 

[old.Tohtori]

Depends what you mean by "works". State ownership isn't an efficient transport solution.

I mean basically what @Ormorof said. There's no competition, the prices are "fair", connections make it so you get anywhere in Finland with ease etc. You can even decide to go to the other side of Finland on a two hour notice(if not less). Sure people complain, but it's a planned out system that gets you exactly what you need.

In a larger country you need more money to build it, relatively England -has- more money, but it all comes down to planning and execution.

Trains are absolutely better then highways, if they are done well.

 

[Bodhi]

The sister has just put a deposit down on a Nissan Leaf. I have never seen a company so keen to do a deal - 5k contribution from the government, 3k contribution from Nissan, 4k cash for her old 1-series, deeply low monthly payments. A good deal but kind of shows you how attractive normal pure electric cars are in the marketplace if they aren't made by BMW or Tesla. The 70 mile range and the fact it looks like a pregnant hippo can't help.

She also claimed it was "shit off a shovel", with it's stunning 13 second to 60 time. I may have rolled my eyes at that point.....

 

[Embattle]

The car in theory is fine although the modern use of it has become problematic because you'll often see a vehicle designed to carry 5+ people with only a driver, in essence an occupancy of 20%. This is coupled to the simple design issue with cars that while getting smaller they've not really got smaller in width thus it remains one car per lane of traffic and this helps cause traffic and thus pollution. Personally I've my peddle bike and a couple of months ago I got a Scooter which helps me get around as well, in the end the best transport system is one that uses multiple methods. People need to start realising the country isn't going to become one big piece of tarmac although at the same time it would be nice if highways/councils *looks at Twickenham* were a little less stupid when it comes to digging up roads etc.

 

[old.user4556]

Hybrid v Petrol.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85ZriQWyKuk&list=UUFwzOXPZKE6aH3fAU0d2Cyg

 

[DaGaffer]

It works quite nicely in a country with a relatively small population (VR while complained about by finns is regularly considered one if the best railway companies in the world) with lots of investment in infrastructure - also it helps the routes are relatively new not forced to stick to 200 year old plans

In germany they have part private majority public owned train system and it is cheap & pretty efficient

Just because British Rail was rubbish doesnt mean it can't be done

Even German rail is highly subsidized relative to the volume it manages. Lets put it this way; across the EU rail accounts for 25% of all state transport subsidies but only 6% of passenger volume and 11% of freight. Road accounts for 46% of all subsidies, but 82% of passenger volume and 46% of freight.

There are lots of good reasons for running decent train services, but even the best run services cost taxpayers even if they don't use them.

 

[Scouse]

Hybrid v Petrol

WTF is it with youtube and videos you're not allowed to fast-forward?

 

[old.Tohtori]

WTF is it with youtube and videos you're not allowed to fast-forward?

Skipping? Works fine here. User problem?