The best shadowbladetemplate after 1.62

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Carlos Bananos

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will be the same as the best one before 1.62 ;)
 
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salamurhaaja

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Thoughts about CB spec.

axe50
la14
stealth32
cs44
venom29

Last debuff + decent la [14+18].

SB win-button=purge. If it's down, I will loose other assassins. If it's up, I have good chance of winnig.
Inf win-button=enervating+df [followed by cs-chain]+purge
NS win-button= stun-attack+RA's+purge

So SB should be in line whit whit other assassins?
No.
Enervatings hurt too much.
Damage when enervated.
Damage when not enervated.
Screens shows that my average damage is reduced by 34% after enervating.

Infils claim that after 1.62 we are in same line. Maybe that's true when we fight against non-asassins.
But CB SB vs CB Inf infils have huge advantage.
1) stun attack
2) enervating

Only way to win infil is to outdamage him [Sb CB has no stun] and that's hard, 34% dama reduce from enervating and dragonfang = impossible whitout purge.

GG, 30 minutes waiting from each fight :(
 
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Carlos Bananos

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Originally posted by salamurhaaja
Thoughts about CB spec.

axe50
la14
stealth32
cs44
venom29

Last debuff + decent la [14+18].

SB win-button=purge. If it's down, I will loose other assassins. If it's up, I have good chance of winnig.
Inf win-button=enervating+df [followed by cs-chain]+purge
NS win-button= stun-attack+RA's+purge

So SB should be in line whit whit other assassins?
No.
Enervatings hurt too much.
Damage when enervated.
Damage when not enervated.
Screens shows that my average damage is reduced by 34% after enervating.

Infils claim that after 1.62 we are in same line. Maybe that's true when we fight against non-asassins.
But CB SB vs CB Inf infils have huge advantage.
1) stun attack
2) enervating

Only way to win infil is to outdamage him [Sb CB has no stun] and that's hard, 34% dama reduce from enervating and dragonfang = impossible whitout purge.

GG, 30 minutes waiting from each fight :(

Cool, how long you been playing 1.62?








The SBs on US are doing fine, as long as they're equally/better equipped, buffed and RR etc.
 
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salamurhaaja

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
Cool, how long you been playing 1.62?


The SBs on US are doing fine, as long as they're equally/better equipped, buffed and RR etc.

I will respec to CB as soon as I get respec stone :) = 1.62.hopefully tonight
Haven't played 1.62 yet.

Yes it all comes to buffs, relics, realm ranks. But when they are equal, infils got upper hand at 1.62.
 
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Runolaz

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Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
Cool, how long you been playing 1.62?

The SBs on US are doing fine, as long as they're equally/better equipped, buffed and RR etc.

Have you played it??

...and BS, according to all data provided they are gutted vs equall opponents. The SB that still are doing ok are camping DF where there are few INF arround. Both INF and NS outdmg a CB using CS that either use 2H or 1H/OH, cuz of Env hitts the SB 2x. I've even seen INF's complaining cuz he easiliy killed RR5+ SB's...lol

...other than that I'm all with Salamurhaaja.
 
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froler-mid

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well....the new fotm in alb seems too be slash infils, soo your enverting will hurt as much on 'those' infils as they do on sb's.



(runolas and salurmurrjaj whine too much imo :D)
 
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Runolaz

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Originally posted by froler-mid

(runolas and salurmurrjaj whine too much imo :D)

nooooo we wote for Remi...king of SB :wub: :cheers:
 
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Haldar

Guest
Originally posted by froler-mid
well....the new fotm in alb seems too be slash infils, soo your enverting will hurt as much on 'those' infils as they do on sb's.

u are wrong.

numbers of slash infi's are decreasing. bcoz the only good targets for slash infi's are SB's (close to extinct on US), zerkers and savages and hib scale users. slash infi was an answer to SZ template - sacrifice all for better damage vs SBs. And now thrust infis can mow SB's down too - so slash becomes less desirable. Dfang4tehwin etc...
 
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froler-mid

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Originally posted by Hroft[BC]
u are wrong.

numbers of slash infi's are decreasing. bcoz the only good targets for slash infi's are SB's (close to extinct on US), zerkers and savages and hib scale users. slash infi was an answer to SZ template - sacrifice all for better damage vs SBs. And now thrust infis can mow SB's down too - so slash becomes less desirable. Dfang4tehwin etc...


check the alb boards, more question about slash spec etc, i advice most infils too goo slash ingame too :D


and lul at gimped sbs in US.
 
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minime_

Guest
Someone might have heard me say this before;

50slash50dw4tehwin

And ill be a gimpy CB btw :>
 
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-chancer-

Guest
i am sooo not respeccing to critblade


41sword
44leftaxe
36 stealth
37 envenom
10 crit

atm an hopeing to stay that way
 
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old.anubis

Guest
Bedevere

1 Bedevere Shaman 449
2 Bedevere Healer 365
3 Bedevere Shadowblade 337
4 Bedevere Runemaster 264
5 Bedevere Hunter 252
6 Bedevere Skald 251
7 Bedevere Bonedancer 237
8 Bedevere Berserker 222
9 Bedevere Thane 202
10 Bedevere Spiritmaster 187
11 Bedevere Warrior 181
12 Bedevere Savage 98


Bors

1 Bors Shaman 726
2 Bors Shadowblade 559
3 Bors Healer 475
4 Bors Hunter 389
5 Bors Berserker 381
6 Bors Skald 364
7 Bors Thane 358
8 Bors Runemaster 350
9 Bors Bonedancer 296
10 Bors Warrior 275
11 Bors Spiritmaster 155
12 Bors Savage 150

Galahad

1 Galahad Shaman 737
2 Galahad Shadowblade 564
3 Galahad Healer 458
4 Galahad Skald 414
5 Galahad Hunter 400
6 Galahad Bonedancer 366
7 Galahad Runemaster 343
8 Galahad Thane 301
9 Galahad Berserker 297
10 Galahad Warrior 255
11 Galahad Spiritmaster 251
12 Galahad Savage 205


Gawaine

1 Gawaine Shaman 503
2 Gawaine Shadowblade 364
3 Gawaine Healer 334
4 Gawaine Hunter 268
5 Gawaine Skald 252
6 Gawaine Runemaster 233
7 Gawaine Thane 214
8 Gawaine Berserker 214
9 Gawaine Warrior 201
10 Gawaine Bonedancer 188
11 Gawaine Spiritmaster 164
12 Gawaine Savage 102


Guinevere

1 Guinevere Shaman 1,001
2 Guinevere Shadowblade 814
3 Guinevere Healer 752
4 Guinevere Skald 599
5 Guinevere Berserker 582
6 Guinevere Hunter 548
7 Guinevere Runemaster 472
8 Guinevere Thane 422
9 Guinevere Bonedancer 395
10 Guinevere Warrior 362
11 Guinevere Savage 341
12 Guinevere Spiritmaster 248


Igraine

1 Igraine Shaman 520
2 Igraine Shadowblade 402
3 Igraine Healer 394
4 Igraine Skald 280
5 Igraine Runemaster 259
6 Igraine Hunter 255
7 Igraine Thane 239
8 Igraine Berserker 235
9 Igraine Bonedancer 226
10 Igraine Warrior 207
11 Igraine Spiritmaster 197
12 Igraine Savage 100


Iseult

1 Iseult Shaman 527
2 Iseult Shadowblade 403
3 Iseult Healer 378
4 Iseult Skald 296
5 Iseult Hunter 262
6 Iseult Runemaster 257
7 Iseult Thane 240
8 Iseult Berserker 236
9 Iseult Warrior 235
10 Iseult Bonedancer 221
11 Iseult Spiritmaster 164
12 Iseult Savage 99


Kay

1 Kay Shaman 526
2 Kay Healer 403
3 Kay Shadowblade 393
4 Kay Thane 316
5 Kay Skald 311
6 Kay Hunter 267
7 Kay Runemaster 256
8 Kay Berserker 234
9 Kay Warrior 226
10 Kay Spiritmaster 203
11 Kay Bonedancer 203
12 Kay Savage 103


Lancelot

1 Lancelot Shaman 883
2 Lancelot Healer 616
3 Lancelot Shadowblade 600
4 Lancelot Runemaster 516
5 Lancelot Skald 498
6 Lancelot Bonedancer 480
7 Lancelot Thane 447
8 Lancelot Hunter 408
9 Lancelot Berserker 349
10 Lancelot Spiritmaster 305
11 Lancelot Warrior 293
12 Lancelot Savage 222


Merlin

1 Merlin Shaman 1,107
2 Merlin Shadowblade 841
3 Merlin Healer 777
4 Merlin Skald 680
5 Merlin Runemaster 610
6 Merlin Bonedancer 530
7 Merlin Thane 515
8 Merlin Hunter 498
9 Merlin Berserker 462
10 Merlin Warrior 402
11 Merlin Spiritmaster 358
12 Merlin Savage 198



Morgan Le Fay

1 Morgan Le Fay Shaman 744
2 Morgan Le Fay Shadowblade 524
3 Morgan Le Fay Healer 524
4 Morgan Le Fay Skald 496
5 Morgan Le Fay Runemaster 379
6 Morgan Le Fay Berserker 344
7 Morgan Le Fay Hunter 341
8 Morgan Le Fay Thane 315
9 Morgan Le Fay Warrior 292
10 Morgan Le Fay Spiritmaster 241
11 Morgan Le Fay Bonedancer 227
12 Morgan Le Fay Savage 181



Nimue

1 Nimue Shaman 471
2 Nimue Shadowblade 361
3 Nimue Skald 293
4 Nimue Healer 282
5 Nimue Thane 245
6 Nimue Hunter 226
7 Nimue Berserker 208
8 Nimue Runemaster 191
9 Nimue Warrior 185
10 Nimue Bonedancer 158
11 Nimue Spiritmaster 137
12 Nimue Savage 104



Palomides

1 Palomides Shaman 586
2 Palomides Shadowblade 456
3 Palomides Healer 425
4 Palomides Hunter 339
5 Palomides Skald 336
6 Palomides Runemaster 313
7 Palomides Berserker 264
8 Palomides Bonedancer 245
9 Palomides Thane 238
10 Palomides Warrior 228
11 Palomides Spiritmaster 181
12 Palomides Savage 134



Pellinor

1 Pellinor Shaman 463
2 Pellinor Shadowblade 339
3 Pellinor Healer 325
4 Pellinor Skald 290
5 Pellinor Hunter 252
6 Pellinor Runemaster 237
7 Pellinor Warrior 226
8 Pellinor Thane 216
9 Pellinor Berserker 196
10 Pellinor Bonedancer 173
11 Pellinor Spiritmaster 142
12 Pellinor Savage 75



Percival

1 Percival Shaman 977
2 Percival Shadowblade 722
3 Percival Healer 676
4 Percival Skald 557
5 Percival Hunter 539
6 Percival Runemaster 522
7 Percival Berserker 509
8 Percival Thane 473
9 Percival Warrior 446
10 Percival Bonedancer 383
11 Percival Savage 262
12 Percival Spiritmaster 251

should i explain _why_ you are being nerfed?
 
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Carlos Bananos

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Originally posted by old.anubis
should i explain _why_ you are being nerfed?

they all seem to think 500 damage per round is perfectly acceptable when being hit back for 90 etc o_O




Now everyone can roll propper classes an mid can do smth in rvr ;D
 
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nightsorrow

Guest
Originally posted by salamurhaaja
I will respec to CB as soon as I get respec stone :) = 1.62.hopefully tonight
Haven't played 1.62 yet.

Yes it all comes to buffs, relics, realm ranks. But when they are equal, infils got upper hand at 1.62.


atleast you didnt mention SKILL:p

thats best to have imo:p
 
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ulke

Guest
Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
they all seem to think 500 damage per round is perfectly acceptable when being hit back for 90 etc o_O


Now everyone can roll propper classes an mid can do smth in rvr ;D

Hard to make a good rvr-grp without healers/skald (they are exping alts or somethin) thats why we see so many sb's......not couse they are uber etc...

Ask yourself, why did you start your sb ? :p

Its "the waiting at tk for a decent rvr-grp" that creates sb's/hunters...

hmm, this reply ended up as a whine at all the waiting at tk :(
 
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froler-mid

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lol at that list, Anubis t.t


1. shammy bot
2. shadowblade
3. healur bot for 1.62


T_T_T_T_T_Tt



nerf is goood.


(id guess alb ones would look the same tho t.t)
 
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Carlos Bananos

Guest
Originally posted by ulke
Hard to make a good rvr-grp without healers/skald (they are exping alts or somethin) thats why we see so many sb's......not couse they are uber etc...

Ask yourself, why did you start your sb ? :p

Its "the waiting at tk for a decent rvr-grp" that creates sb's/hunters...

hmm, this reply ended up as a whine at all the waiting at tk :(

I started my SB because it seemed a fun class to play, i had the intent of being a critblade, i started it long long ago, when i had no idea what an assasin was. So not rlly the uber factor.





But LA is overpowered, with only 39 spec (and 36weapon) i can hit 2-3 times harder on an anytime style, than other rogues can on positionals, and often PA..

i due to a combination of v.heavy styles and nice evade, i can kill main tanks pretty easly with little risk.


Ever been hit my an infil or NS for 600-700 dmg...?.....mid fight.
 
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old.anubis

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Originally posted by froler-mid

(id guess alb ones would look the same tho t.t)

sure it is ^^
so you're next :p

1 Cleric 12,301
2 Infiltrator 9,885
3 Paladin 8,884
4 Wizard 8,747
5 Scout 7,415
6 Necromancer 6,852 <= LOL
7 Armsman 6,449
8 Friar 6,009
9 Minstrel 5,520
10 Theurgist 4,389
11 Sorcerer 4,309
12 Cabalist 3,585
13 Reaver 3,012
14 Mercenary 2,881

added:
and hib one, just for comparison :p

1 Enchanter 8,379
2 Druid 8,200
3 Nightshade 7,991
4 Bard 7,658
5 Ranger 7,214
6 Hero 5,893
7 Eldritch 5,544
8 Mentalist 4,941
9 Warden 4,863
10 Champion 4,316
11 Blademaster 2,373
12 Valewalker 2,258
13 Animist 1,798
 
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Rollie_David

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carlos bananos the last honest shadowblade, how are you my son :D
 
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Haldar

Guest
Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
I started my SB because it seemed a fun class to play, i had the intent of being a critblade, i started it long long ago, when i had no idea what an assasin was. So not rlly the uber factor.

But LA is overpowered, with only 39 spec (and 36weapon) i can hit 2-3 times harder on an anytime style, than other rogues can on positionals, and often PA..

i due to a combination of v.heavy styles and nice evade, i can kill main tanks pretty easly with little risk.

Ever been hit my an infil or NS for 600-700 dmg...?.....mid fight.

ohh....

why do shadowblades still lose to infiltrators then?

my mainhand damage on infi - 230 normal and 130-150 enervated. offhand - 30-40.

sure, most infi's main hits me for 90-120! but their offhand kicks for 70-90!

and there goes the usual info about our sucky ra's, armor, damage type, damage dealing attributes, lack of evade-based stun etc, etc...

and we got 3 str relics on our server.
 
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stinkie

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Originally posted by jox
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not surprised at all coming from jox. he rolls the most over powered mid class. then gets a buff bot then refuses to leave mtk without 7 mates all buffed.

pretty clear you'd hate to play a class that was on an even playing field to the rest imo.


On the spec side, Id suggest CB template. I got PA'd by a CB last night when duoing with riasen and even with bot of us wacking him I came out with a slither of health(thought bleed was gonna kill me) so as for not having a chance v infs ur sorely wrong. ur just gonna have to try n land PA now instead of DF4TEHWIN
 
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-chancer-

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no SB uses' DF its just tooo end heavy unless they (within 10mins) got End regen 5 even then with end regen 5 you still run out of end!!
 
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horil

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Re: Re: The best shadowbladetemplate after 1.62

Originally posted by stinkie
not surprised at all coming from jox. he rolls the most over powered mid class. then gets a buff bot then refuses to leave mtk without 7 mates all buffed.

pretty clear you'd hate to play a class that was on an even playing field to the rest imo.


On the spec side, Id suggest CB template. I got PA'd by a CB last night when duoing with riasen and even with bot of us wacking him I came out with a slither of health(thought bleed was gonna kill me) so as for not having a chance v infs ur sorely wrong. ur just gonna have to try n land PA now instead of DF4TEHWIN


Sorry to interrupt your dreams, but I would add I know quite many sb's and none of them is spamming df, k thx.
Personaly I prefer snowblind and comeback as back-up

Regards,
 

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