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Gwadien

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Liverpool have a good team.

Maureen is just a better manager than Brenda.
 

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Agree, but as long as Chelski aren't interested in attacking hard then it's gonna happen a lot...

Chelsea scored two goals, Liverpool none. That's really all the matters, and why would anyone play an open game against the second-highest scoring team in Europe? That's an invitation to disaster. Perhaps if Liverpool remembered that the game involves attack and defence, they wouldn't have an minus 8-goal difference to Citeh, and the title would be in their own hands? 46 goals against isn't title-winning defending.
 

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Ah, the classic facepalm argument from someone that only posts when their team is winning. Not that I would call most Chelsea fans who have probably never even been to the Bridge a bunch of glory hunting plastics.
 

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there is nothing wrong with the tactics he played, boring for the neutral but it's what you have to do against a side that plays like that....stop being bitter arseholes

Not being a bitter arsehole. In my post above I explicitly stated that that chelski won fair and square.

But by your own words, you agree that it was boring - which it was. All I'm saying is that chelski won, but they're a boring team. Which you agree with :p


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46 goals against isn't title-winning defending.
Agree. I've said all along that I don't think Rodgers knows how to set up a defence. It's not personnel (they've been absolutely fantastic in the past) - it's managerial failure.

However - we're really fucking exciting to watch. Unlike Chelski, who whilst hugely effective are mind-numbingly dull to watch.

(Which is why I spent yesterday doing what I was doing in the fitness thread - rather than watching the match :))
 

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It was boring against atletico, but I enjoyed it yesterday.watching the Liverpool side not have a clue was hugely entertaining.... Jose seems to have got under brendans skin just as Ferguson did to rafa the last time you had a chance.

City have this one, back to mediocrity for Liverpool next season.
 

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However - we're really fucking exciting to watch. Unlike Chelski, who whilst hugely effective are mind-numbingly dull to watch.

Its just not that simple, given their lack of striking quality (their own fault, no argument) they've still scored more goals than Arsenal, a supposedly "attacking" team. Mourinho's teams are boring when they have to be, which is what the very best managers know how to do (Real Madrid certainly weren't boring under Mourinho) . Only having one style of play isn't the sign of a world-class manager, even if it makes fans and owners happy.
 

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Ah, the classic facepalm argument from someone that only posts when their team is winning. Not that I would call most Chelsea fans who have probably never even been to the Bridge a bunch of glory hunting plastics.

I've posted here when Chelsea have won lost or drawn regardless, again you're trying to insult someone who's been a Chelsea fan his entire life before there was any money, been to the Bridge countless times, far from a 'plastic'

So, next?
 

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Only having one style of play isn't the sign of a world-class manager

Don't disagree with the implication that Rodgers isn't a world-class manager. However, from a purely entertainment standpoint, Chelski under Mourinho aren't ever fun to watch IMO - it's like watching a game of operation.

To be fair, LFC under Benitez were the same - reasonably successful but not exciting to watch. And I really rate Rafa as a tactical manager. But handing over the hard-earned to watch them is much more palletable under Rodgers simply because you have a stonking time watching his teams...
 

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Good to see the Scouse fans showing their class in defeat. After a pathetic attempt to unsettle our team the night before, they get completely out-thought tactically in the game, and their over-inflated sense of entitlement causes them to go "waaaah it's not fair". Sorry folks but it's part of football, you have to be better than your opponent tactically as well as man for man. One-dimensional tactics tend to get found out against the very best, and the same happened again yesterday. Brenda admitted he knew what was coming, but still had no answer for it.

I thought it was quite an interesting game to watch personally, seeing two contrasting styles going head to head, irresistible force against immoveable object etc. Chelsea weren't anywhere near as entertaining as they were in the home tie earlier in the season, or as they were against Man City, Arsenal at home, Man U at home, Tottenham twice, etc, but they were very impressive.
 

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DaGaffer's last post pretty much summed it up perfectly, I came here to write pretty much exactly that.

What I don't think anyone has mentioned though is that the 'pool fans are probably a bit miffed with Mourinho's hypocrisy, which they're more than entitled to do, but then you're just playing into Jose's hands, that's what he does.
 

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Don't disagree with the implication that Rodgers isn't a world-class manager. However, from a purely entertainment standpoint, Chelski under Mourinho aren't ever fun to watch IMO - it's like watching a game of operation.

To be fair, LFC under Benitez were the same - reasonably successful but not exciting to watch. And I really rate Rafa as a tactical manager. But handing over the hard-earned to watch them is much more palletable under Rodgers simply because you have a stonking time watching his teams...
So you watch football for entertainment, not for teh wins?

It's always teh wins = entertainment.
 

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Good to see the Scouse fans showing their class in defeat ... "waaaah it's not fair".

Never said it's not fair. I said, explicitly, that Chelski 100% "won fair and square".


However, I said you were a boring side. You are. Last time under Maureen I said you were a boring side, this time under him you're a boring side. Nothing to do with the defeat - I've been saying it for a long time :p
 

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Never said it's not fair. I said, explicitly, that Chelski 100% "won fair and square".


However, I said you were a boring side. You are. Last time under Maureen I said you were a boring side, this time under him you're a boring side. Nothing to do with the defeat - I've been saying it for a long time :p

Nope you are indeed correct. I nearly fell off my chair with boredom putting 6 past Arsenal, or playing City off the park at the Etihad, or thumping 4 past Spurs etc etc. Even Piers Morgan admitted yesterday, the only boring thing about a Mourinho side is the way they keep winning.
 

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What I don't get it everyone plauding him as a tactical genius for parking 10 people behind the ball and suggesting "if Liverpool were a truly great team they'd find a way to break us down".

What, just like you couldn't manage against West Ham, Palace and Sunderland?
 

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What I don't get it everyone plauding him as a tactical genius for parking 10 people behind the ball and suggesting "if Liverpool were a truly great team they'd find a way to break us down".

What, just like you couldn't manage against West Ham, Palace and Sunderland?

You'll also find most Chelsea fans were frustrated, not at the tactics Palace and West Ham employed, but our own inability to break them down. In fact most of us find it quite obvious that that's what has cost us the league this year (as our record against the Top 4 is outstanding), and it's what we need to work on next year. In fact this went as far as Jose - he went into the Palace dressing room to congratulate them afterwards on a great performance, and whilst he didn't seem too impressed with West Ham's tactics, he begrudgingly admitted if roles were reversed he'd do exactly the same (funny how that quote gets forgotten when they're accusing him of hypocrisy).

Sunderland was a different story, and the worst refereeing performance I have seen since the Barca Semi. I don't think any Chelsea fan, Jose included, found that particularly easy to take.
 

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Neither team have parked the bus. But Giroud right there showed why it was only 1, he managed to kick it right at the keeper twice.
 
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