Football The 2012 / 2013 Season Thread

[megadave]

Champions league games have been fixed in recent years.

Who knows though, Europol (whatever the fuck that is) seem to have as much use as a chocolate tampon.

Yeah but that'll be some game as far from Real Madrid v Man Utd as possible

 

[soze]

As if it was fixed

I am not sure about fixed but too many English teams get shafted by very very soft red cards it is really easy to see a conspiracy.

 

[Lethul]

Hmm - looking at the foul its not a terrible bit of refereeing - Man Utd cant really complain too much - pretty brave from the ref though.

You are not alone

Roy Keane: "I actually think the referee made the right decision"

 

[Ch3tan]

Guess it's all on spuds, chelski and the french revolution in Europe now, unless Arsenal pull off a miracle.

 

[Ch3tan]

You are not alone

Roy Keane: "I actually think the referee made the right decision"

Keane loves being a toht... erm devils advocate though.

 

[CorNokZ]

How this was ever a red is beyond me. He never sees him. Eyes on the ball and actually gets it before Arbeloa does. Footballers pull down the ball like this every match and nothing comes off it. Mou was clearly irritated as well

 

[ileks]

Keane loves being a toht... erm devils advocate though.

Yep and none of the other pundits had the balls to disagree with him.

 

[rynnor]

You are not alone

Roy Keane: "I actually think the referee made the right decision"

Yeah - I just watched the section of the game between Man Utd scoring and the Nani sending off and Nani was looking frustrated - he got driven off the pitch then didnt get the refs decision, he spent lots of time chasing without the ball, got the ball and immediatly lost it, got the ball and over hit it giving it away then next touch was the foul.

 

[Deebs]

Chet,

When you get a mo, over here https://forums.freddyshouse.com/threads/the-2012-2013-season-thread.248712/page-224#post-3941488

 

[rynnor]

How this was ever a red is beyond me. He never sees him. Eyes on the ball and actually gets it before Arbeloa does. Footballers pull down the ball like this every match and nothing comes off it. Mou was clearly irritated as well

Its clearly unsafe - you might get away with it in the premier league but not in European competition.

Edit - oh and Nani didnt reach the ball first - other guy chested it then got nanis foot to the chest.

 

[Everz]

I agree that our reaction to the sending off was lethargic, Real went on the attack right away, we were all at sea. Fergie did need to change things and get them compact, however it should never have been an issue. Some asian betting syndicate is going to be quids in tonight.

I agree but these things happen in football. Not to make an issue but it's quite often been other teams on the receiving end at Old Trafford. Nevertheless Uniteds' response was poor and that is where the real blame should lay in my opinion, shit happens in football.

 

[megadave]

Deeb's trolling is shit compared to Roy Keane's, who agrees with the red.

 

[Lethul]

Its clearly unsafe - you might get away with it in the premier league but not in European competition.

Edit - oh and Nani didnt reach the ball first - other guy chested it then got nanis foot to the chest.

Not to mention it looks like nani "kicks" with the leg at the end of the gif

 

[rynnor]

Its a shame though - I think even Mourinhio wasn't that happy - he wanted to win the right way.

 

[CorNokZ]

Okay here is how it went down:

1) Nani has eyes for the ball and nothing else
2) He lifts his leg, as you do when trying to take down the ball
3) Arbeloa comes from his blind angle and runs into the ball simultaneously with Nani creating contact with the ball
4) Nani's "kick" at the end is because it is the only natural way his leg could go

It was NEVER a red card

 

[Everz]

Also.. to be a bitch.

Eboue at United, red card. What goes around, comes around.

 

[eksdee]

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36_0AV2a1NU

 

[Scouse]

It was a harsh enough yellow as he was unsighted of the oncoming man, and was just trying to drag the ball down.

Doesn't matter. Dangerous play. Intent not needed.

If he's going to fling his legs in the air like that on a football pitch he's made a choice and taken a risk - and it's not paid off.

I've seen 'em not given - and I've seen 'em given. Fair red, tbfh.


As for Mourinho saying "the best team lost" - he's so after that job

 

[Aoami]

Its a fucking disc race

 

[Lethul]

I understand that United are upset, considering this is what they are used to:

View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cs88nvpF_gw

 

[Himse]

Rio especially at the end, utter pleb.

 

[Marc]

Correct decision re the sending off. It was dangerous play and by the letter of the law its a sending off. Wether there was intent there is irrelevant. Roy Keane was spot on and it was hilarious watching him pick gareth southgate apart post match.

Now, everyone knows I have no love for Ronaldo, but I have to admit, over the past couple of months I have seen such a change in him. He seems so much more of a team player these days and I thought the humulity he showed last night was refreshing. Maybe, finally at the age of 28 he is maturing, not just as a player, but as a person.

And how much does Mourinho want the united job? He may aswell have just dropped to his knees and sucked of SAF

 

[Raven]

He will be at UTD one day, it's been on the cards for years.

I love how he is prick teasing Chelsea about returning there though He will never go there again, no manager with any pride will.

 

[Himse]

He won't go to United as they want 'stability' and he won't go to city because all of the execs were ex-Barcelona, and hate him. My next guess is really PSG, if not coming back to the PL.

No doubt Roman has put in some crazy offer for him though, like with Pep.

 

[Marc]

I am not sure about fixed but too many English teams get shafted by very very soft red cards it is really easy to see a conspiracy.

Please tell me how it was a soft red card?

 

[soze]

Please tell me how it was a soft red card?

Because it happens hundreds of times with a Yellow given. That is only normally a red if you have seen the other player but still put you foot in. Also how is this any more dangerous that an over head kick? Are they a red every time you try one and you catch a player? Because volleying a player in the face is a lot more dangerous that catching a player with a bent leg.

 

[Marc]

Because it happens hundreds of times with a Yellow given. That is only normally a red if you have seen the other player but still put you foot in. Also how is this any more dangerous that an over head kick? Are they a red every time you try one and you catch a player? Because volleying a player in the face is a lot more dangerous that catching a player with a bent leg.

Ballotelli got sent off a couple of years ago, in the premiership for that exact same thing, trying an overhead kick and catching an opposing player, except it wasnt in the face, he caught his chest.

It was dangerous play, ergo, its a red. I think there may be a case to relax the rules a little, or maybe give refs the authority to interpret the rules how they see fit based on the circumstances but at the moment, the ref made the only call that he could.

 

[soze]

Well then every attempted overhead kick should be a red it is more luck that judgement that you don't catch a player as you can't see behind you so it is dangerous play. It is crap intent should matter.

 

[Vasconcelos]

Strict red card, however, iirc rulebook doesnt say anything about contempt when placing your boot on your rival's ribs... Nani shouldnt be too surprised, when you make a ¿tackle? like that, like when you are tackling from behind, you are risking a red card (except if its Alonso's ribs in a worldcup final)

Strict? Yes? Surprising? Not that much.

I see much more polemic Lopez's punching Vidic face in that corner (crystal clear penalty), and Rafael's penalty when bloking Ramos scoring header in yet another corner (how many did we see? like 20 in total? I guess Thats what happens when you throw 2 strong teams together and not men vs "diving ballerinas" midgets in blue&red shirts).

Anyhoo, I refuse to blame the referee for Madrid victory. Its true that the red card was a changing point, but from my pov, i got the feeling that Madrid push after Ramos autoscored (what a crap goal btw) and ManU retreating lines 20meters backwards before the red card, were going to give us the win.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Please tell me how it was a soft red card?

The FA overturned the two similar incidents in the Everton - West Ham match where both players received straight reds for exactly the same thing.

Granted, the FA are not UEFA but there's enough precedent to question the decision.