Football The 2012 / 2013 Season Thread

[Embattle]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...s-Katidis-banned-for-alleged-Nazi-salute.html

20 year old saying he had no idea it was a Nazi salute and he was just pointing to a teammate in the crowd??? Really?

I heard that excuse and laughed, I mean even if you excuse all other factors you don't ever point in such a way...one finger is always extended.

 

[CorNokZ]

AGF actually won a home game tonight
Wohooo..!

Get back to me when you win 9 in a row

 

[Olgaline]

Give us the same kind of money posted into fck over the last 15 years I'll get back to you on that.

 

[CorNokZ]

Give us the same kind of money posted into fck over the last 15 years I'll get back to you on that.

We've been making money, not funded by an arab oil mongul. We've done business besides football and it has served us well. Do you think our success just came down from the above and fell into our laps? Copenhagen gets better sponsor deals because our football and our business is more lucrative than any other Danish football club. Look at Brøndby for an example. They had every opportunity to go down the same path as we did, but they decided not to(well Bjerregaard did). And look at them now. 2nd biggest club in Denmark fan base wise, just barely making payments to their players and staff on the verge of bankruptcy, meanwhile they are struggling not to be relegated.

Success is temporary, loyalty is forever! - As we say in Copenhagen. We've been through a rough patch too, with the financial crises. Nordsjælland managed to win the league last year and all the Champions League money, but what have they done? Decided not establish some sort of consistency and sold most of their key players. Copenhagen did it the other way around. When we managed to tip Brøndby off the Danish throne, we never looked back and kept on improving our team, manager, facilities and staff. We didn't go out and sell all of our best players, but some had to go. It is a business, but a business can't survive if you sell all of the most important assets.

You are, and forever will be, in our shadow

 

[Olgaline]

We've been making money.

Uhm...sorry but no, no your not. the football side of FCK is one very big debt pool. the cash comes from Parken Sports and Entertainment.
In 2009 alone Parken SE managed to build debt of no less than 250 million Kr. - wonder how that was washed away - oh right, Erik Skjærbæk

There is no way in hell FCK can finance itself on ticket revenue & tournement money & sponsorships alone - without financial backing from Parken SE and outside investors.
the player troup alone would bleed fck blood red - forget staff and facilities.

Success is temporary, loyalty is forever! -

Indeed !

Now dont get me wrong, I have no issue with FCK, I even support them like any other danish team when they play in Europe.
But please don't pretend you any different from any other league dominant team in europe - You arent. and dont pretend that
the financial playing field is fair in the superliga - it isnt.
But fck and the superliga are no different or worse than so many other european leagues,
so....... /shrug

As for Brøndby god knows whats going on there, but I for one would
not be happy to see them go down.

 

[CorNokZ]

Uhm...sorry but no, no your not. the football side of FCK is one very big debt pool. the cash comes from Parken Sports and Entertainment.
In 2009 alone Parken SE managed to build debt of no less than 250 million Kr. - wonder how that was washed away - oh right, Erik Skjærbæk

There is no way in hell FCK can finance itself on ticket revenue & tournement money & sponsorships alone - without financial backing from Parken SE and outside investors.
the player troup alone would bleed fck blood red - forget staff and facilities.

Seeing as the football is a part of PS&E it would only make sense to take assets from other parts of the business to finance the football. As I said, we've done business besides the football

 

[Olgaline]

iz ok
all I'm saying is, don't pretend it's a fair playing field, because it simply isnt.
The european football leagues could learn from the likes of the NFL - salary caps etc.

 

[eksdee]

JUS FOKKEN IT ET


View: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpZGihSG3aE

 

[Wazzerphuk]

 

[rynnor]

More Rio Ferdinand nonsense - no idea why Roy even bothered except out of pity - presumably thats the final twist of his england career?

 

[eksdee]

The sooner he fucks off and retires all together the better. Always been shit and he's an absolute moron to boot.

 

[Raven]

I hope he gets a nice big gambling addiction and pisses his money up the wall too.

 

[megadave]

More Rio Ferdinand nonsense - no idea why Roy even bothered except out of pity - presumably thats the final twist of his england career?

England aren't exactly swamped with top defenders at the moment.

The sooner he fucks off and retires all together the better. Always been shit and he's an absolute moron to boot.

I'm sure he'll find a way to stay in the press.

 

[eksdee]

Don't say such horrible things.

 

[Raven]

He will tweet barely comprehensible garbage well after he has finished playing football.

 

[rynnor]

He will tweet barely comprehensible garbage well after he has finished playing football.

We should invite him to the forum in that case

 

[soze]

Lots of people saying the tackle at the weekend was not that bad and he got the ball and there was no intent to harm. I wonder if the same people though Nani deserved his red. That tackle was far more dangerous than what Nani did.

 

[rynnor]

Lots of people saying the tackle at the weekend was not that bad and he got the ball and there was no intent to harm. I wonder if the same people though Nani deserved his red. That tackle was far more dangerous than what Nani did.

Both deserved red - the problem with these decisions is inconsistency.

 

[Billargh]

Even worse with Dave Whelan coming out and saying he got the ball "clean as a whistle", and that he expects Haidara to be playing "next Saturday". Catastrophic idiot of the highest order.

On a more positive note though, Stevie Taylor's finally got his England call up! Now I'm worried the 'bigger' clubs will see how good he is and come poaching, either that or he'll come back injured and we'll have to start playing *shiver* Williamson.

 

[Raven]

lol

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21849733

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Fuck the FA.

What is the point of them?

Fuck off you old bunch of disgusting cronies. Not fit to run anything, it's absolutely embarrasing. Fuck you.

 

[Scouse]

Fuck the FA.

What is the point of them?

Fuck off you old bunch of disgusting cronies. Not fit to run anything, it's absolutely embarrasing. Fuck you.

Disagree completely.

You have to take some bad things on the chin to avoid a shitload more controversy. Yep, it's a bad tackle - nobody is arguing that - but can't you put two and two together and forsee the shitstorm of bollocks that would occur constantly if the FA had to review every contentious thing.

The policy is sound. Newcastle can whinge all they like but they've benefitted from it in the past. They should man up, realise that shit happens and move on.

 

[DaGaffer]

Disagree completely.

You have to take some bad things on the chin to avoid a shitload more controversy. Yep, it's a bad tackle - nobody is arguing that - but can't you put two and two together and forsee the shitstorm of bollocks that would occur constantly if the FA had to review every contentious thing.

The policy is sound. Newcastle can whinge all they like but they've benefitted from it in the past. They should man up, realise that shit happens and move on.

Well to be fair, even ignoring the judgement today, nothing Wazz says about the FA is intrinsically wrong; disgusting cronies who aren't fit to run anything is pretty accurate.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

Disagree completely.

You have to take some bad things on the chin to avoid a shitload more controversy. Yep, it's a bad tackle - nobody is arguing that - but can't you put two and two together and forsee the shitstorm of bollocks that would occur constantly if the FA had to review every contentious thing.

The policy is sound. Newcastle can whinge all they like but they've benefitted from it in the past. They should man up, realise that shit happens and move on.

The policy is inherently flawed and completely broken.

They've had to ignore their own policy in the past for certain contentious issues (most notably banning Ben Thatcher for his assault on Pedro Mendes. By the letter of the FA law they couldn't do anything about it due to him being yellow carded but they relented), and the fact that no action is being taken is disgusting.

"Tackles" like that have no place in football. They're nothing but incredibly dangerous. The fact the FA are allowing stuff like this to go unpunished is utterly disgusting.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

'It has been confirmed that at least one of the match officials saw the coming together, though not the full extent of the challenge,' said the FA. 'In these circumstances retrospective action cannot be taken.'

So, instead of basing their actions on establishable fact after the event, they base it on incomplete and mistaken impressions of the time.

That is incompetency of the HIGHEST order. It's willingly ignorant. It's the exact opposite of how a body should act, particular in cases where some form of justice or action is required.

If you really try and defend the FA on this then you can fuck off, what will it take for them to actually ensure the safety of their players? An amputation?

 

[soze]

I thought the Ref had said he did not see it? If the ref saw that tackle and decided it was not a foul then he needs a few weeks off unpaid tbh. If he did not see the tackle being as bad as it was then the FA need to take a look at the ref saw the tackle but took no action.

The ref should be able to say at the end of the game "I did not have a great view, having seen it again I would have sent him off." The current system is shocking. Hopefully his injury is not bad but if it is as bad as they thought it could see a player out for 6 months and no punishment given.

 

[Wazzerphuk]

I thought the Ref had said he did not see it? If the ref saw that tackle and decided it was not a foul then he needs a few weeks off unpaid tbh. If he did not see the tackle being as bad as it was then the FA need to take a look at the ref saw the tackle but took no action.

The ref should be able to say at the end of the game "I did not have a great view, having seen it again I would have sent him off." The current system is shocking. Hopefully his injury is not bad but if it is as bad as they thought it could see a player out for 6 months and no punishment given.

The ref didn't see it, one of the other officials partially saw a coming together so that's it as far as they're concerned.

Imagine basing justice in a court of law solely on witness statements, ignoring all CCTV footage etc.? It's incomprehensible!

 

[soze]

The ref didn't see it, one of the other officials partially saw a coming together so that's it as far as they're concerned.

Imagine basing justice in a court of law solely on witness statements, ignoring all CCTV footage etc.? It's incomprehensible!

Right so either the lines man that saw it from the other half saw it through the players back and decided it was fine or the linesman on the other side of the pitch saw it though all the other players at that distance and thought it was fine? What a load of bollocks.

 

[Billargh]

Disagree completely.

You have to take some bad things on the chin to avoid a shitload more controversy. Yep, it's a bad tackle - nobody is arguing that - but can't you put two and two together and forsee the shitstorm of bollocks that would occur constantly if the FA had to review every contentious thing.

The policy is sound. Newcastle can whinge all they like but they've benefitted from it in the past. They should man up, realise that shit happens and move on.

How exactly have we benefited? For the majority of nasty tackles even remotely similar to McManaman's we've received sufficient punishment, be it in the form of bans or fines. I seem to recall Victor Anichebe getting a six figure payout because of a tackle from Nolan a few years back.

About Mcmanaman not recieving a ban because the linesman saw it, why the fuck should that matter? We've got a young player still in hospital because of it. I feel sorry for the amount of physio and rehab Haidara is going to have to go through because of this thug.

It's not like McManaman hasn't done something like this before anyway, quite worrying considering he's only 21 and has already managed two potentially career ending tackles.

 

[Shagrat]

How exactly have we benefited? For the majority of nasty tackles even remotely similar to McManaman's we've received sufficient punishment, be it in the form of bans or fines. I seem to recall Victor Anichebe getting a six figure payout because of a tackle from Nolan a few years back.

About Mcmanaman not recieving a ban because the linesman saw it, why the fuck should that matter? We've got a young player still in hospital because of it. I feel sorry for the amount of physio and rehab Haidara is going to have to go through because of this thug.

It's not like McManaman hasn't done something like this before anyway, quite worrying considering he's only 21 and has already managed two potentially career ending tackles.

tbh if the linesman did see it and didn't flag, he needs sacking for being incompetent.