Football The 2011/2012 Season Thread

Shagrat

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Oops Rangers have lodged papers with scottish court to go into administration
 

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There have been rumours for years about the Rangers Board being conmen and robbing the club blind so its not surprising.
 

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You have shed over 20 million pounds worth of players Net this season plus a number on free transfers to reduce the wages bill. You just played the top team in the premiership and you only lost 1-0 - if he had played more offensively I imagine you'd be on here complaining how he should have been more defensive when you lost 5-0.

Its not about losing to the league leaders, it is about the lack of ambition from the manager. We're on our worst home run since 1987 and the man is literally clueless about how to arrest it. I don't believe that West Bromwich Albion or Swansea have better first teams or squads than we do, yet their managers get the best out of their players and try to attack every now and again.

To quote football365's loser section:

"Aston VillaNow on their longest run of Premier League home matches (7) without a win and a thoroughly joyless team to watch."
 

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Lol what a tit Tevez is, City ready to bring him back into the team and he goes on a argie chat show and slates Mancini.
 

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Part of Villa's issue (IMO) is they dont have the right players to fit the formation McLeish seems to want to play. He is intent of 4-2-3-1 but there is no one to play in the hole behind bent, with N'Zogbia, Agbonlahor, Albrighton, Heskey. You can put Petrov and Ireland as the 2 holding players, but both are better going forward (Ireland, I said #better not #good) The back 4 picks itself, Hutton, Dunne, Collins, Warnock, but you cant fit the others into a 3 man advanced midfield.
 

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Its not about losing to the league leaders, it is about the lack of ambition from the manager.

You certainly have a point there but the Man City game is a bad example - I shall watch your next game against premiership whipping boys Wigan with interest.
 

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And now I'm not on an iPhone, I can rant.

Mick came in when the club was at it's lowest point, Hoddle the useless arrogant fucker had bled the money dry and then upped and left, leaving us with no first team players and just reserves and youths we were tipped as favourites to go down. Mick came in and assembled a squad on a shoestring that season which ended us up sneaking into the playoffs somehow, was insane thinking back now how good that season was, despite losing to the Baggies in the play-off semi finals we still had a blast getting there.. and the shit ended up losing to Derby.. not all bad.

The next season was a building process.. missing out on the playoffs by a single goal, but the squad for a push was forming, Jarvis, Kightly, Berra and co were all bought in and we were expected to be challenging next season but I couldn't have ever imagined topping the table from start to finish. Still my favourite season ever, from start to finish it was a joy and the promotion day will forever be burned into my mind.. I admit I cried when we did it, after all the false dawns I'd experienced Mick is the only manager to fully bring pride back into following Wolves, not the doom and the inevitable disappointment that each regime had given us before. Matches that season such as Forest at home were amazing, some of the best attacking football that season.. we played the you score 3 we'll score 4.

Taking us up into the prem and comfortably keeping us there first season again was an amazing achievement, the only Wolves manager to do so in my time and many others. Not only that but made us into a tough competitive unit where we were a match for anyone that we played.. doing the double over Spurs again.. sensational. The second season was unbelieveable to be honest, for days I'd dreamed of us taking some big scalps.. and so we did beating City, United, Chelsea, the 3-3 with Spurs, 3-1 Albion at Molineux and beating Liverpool at Anfield, though we scrapped to stay up it was special and survival day was amazing, again, one of my favourite moments as a Wolves fan. I get chills everytime I see that Hunt goal.. given that I can see myself going insane on tv. Mick built a unit of players willing to die for him and the club so to speak, a never say die spirit that confounded belief at times and for that he must be commended immensely, we simply never gave up on a game.

However.. we scraped to stay up and at times that season we looked totally out of our depth, an improvement was needed and a sign of intent to become an established club. The signing of Johnson was a start, but also the end as he was the only player we bought, the first wins was paper covering over the cracks and showed signs that we were going to rely on clubs being worse then us rather then spending in order to aide our own survival. An awful run of form followed and Mick began to look like he didn't know what he was doing, outrageous line ups that didn't work and consequently getting embarassed. The straw that broke the camels back was the Villa game, once and for all it looked like the players had given up, no longer fighting for the manager but simply giving up, it was a shambles. The nail in the coffin wasn't the Baggies game, but that Liverpool one.. Morgan fully undermining him signaled the end to me, the result against the Baggies showed one thing, he'd lost the players desire to fight for him and they had become disillusioned with his tactics, each one cutting a forlorn figure as they couldn't see why/what he was doing.. Jarvis in the middle was a keep of insanity. So with a heavy heart.. he had to go.

As a man he was a cracking fellow and it was his own never give spirit that meant he kept the job as long as he had. For the manager who instilled pride back into Wolves and took us further then any other before has done, I will always have masses of respect for him and will always be welcome back at the Molineux. I was never his biggest fan but he did something great with us but he took us as far as he can go, he alienated players (Surman, Guerdiora, Hammill, Eastwood etc) or destroyed them (Millijas), but he was also the making of some of them (Jarvis, Kightly, Ward, Foley, Edwards), all of whom were taken from obscurity and transformed into Premiership players, one of the latter gaining an England cap. In a final word, i'll always appreciated and be extremely greatful for what he did for Wolves, for what he did he will certainly go into our folklore, however the time to go had long since called, the baggies game will be an unfortunate taint on a great regime which saddens me. All the best in the future for him and as noted, He will always get a warm welcome from me back at Molineux for what he has done.

Now to move on and get behind whoever is lined up to save the club. Curbishley/Wilkins duo seems to be the prefered favourite. Ugh.
 

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Looks like I missed a interesting flaming weekend :)
Have to say I would not take Evras hand either!

Hazard to Spurs rumor must be a joke? :p
 

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McLeish took over a team that had finished ninth. Yes the clueless owner sold off Young and Downing ...

It's nothing to do with McLeish where you finished at the end of last season, before you sold your best players.

He's still got more points than O'Neill had at the start of his tenure, and Villa are a shit team. Give him a break :)
 

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It is, no basis in reality.
I don't see how it could be a joke at all really..

Spurs are no doubt about it the 3rd best team in the Premiership now and if Redknapp doesn't get poached by England then they are real contenders for the Premiership next season if they get some amazing quality in like Hazard and get a world class striker in. I think they have the best midfield in the Prem and at the moment probably the best defence.
 

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Ahsjahshaja best defence you been on the smack again?
 

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I don't see how it could be a joke at all really..

Spurs are no doubt about it the 3rd best team in the Premiership now and if Redknapp doesn't get poached by England then they are real contenders for the Premiership next season if they get some amazing quality in like Hazard and get a world class striker in. I think they have the best midfield in the Prem and at the moment probably the best defence.
That's very narrow-minded though. Spuds are the 3rd best "this year" for the first time in many many years. Last time they hit the CL it was a 1 season deal. So they do not have the draw of Man U, Chel$ki ect who have been in the CL picture for years. So they will have a tough time competing with the teams who will also be after a guy like him.
 

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Ok maybe not the best but quite a good defence :D compared to last season though they are much improved defensively !

Just looked and they have conceded the same amount of goals as Man Utd .. 25.
 

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That's very narrow-minded though. Spuds are the 3rd best "this year" for the first time in many many years. Last time they hit the CL it was a 1 season deal. So they do not have the draw of Man U, Chel$ki ect who have been in the CL picture for years. So they will have a tough time competing with the teams who will also be after a guy like him.
I remember Hazard saying about 18 months ago that he doesn't want to join a big team and be a bench warmer.. he wants to play, I think Spurs is perfect for him then.. will be given more of a chance as well compared to if he joined Man Utd..

At the moment I think players would rather join Spurs than Chelsea ..

If Chelsea don't finish top four this season it's going to be pretty bad for them, the manager will most likely be sacked and players like Torres probably flogged.
 

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Spurs can't financially compete on his wages for a start. Let alone the near £40m asking price. And the fact he wants to join an established big team in England or Spain.

And that several journos have confirmed there's no facts: it's just a rumour story.
 

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The piece at the bottom sums Mick up. Wolves will struggle to replace him, Leeds should snap him straight up.
 

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The piece at the bottom sums Mick up. Wolves will struggle to replace him, Leeds should snap him straight up.
I'm in no denial that he had to go, it wasn't working, losing that way against the Tescos there was no way back.
 

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Wenger wasn't saCked when he lost 8-2,
Ferguson wasn't when utd got mangled in front of their own fans by City.

I do understand what your saying, but the lack of investment by a team in their 3rd year in the league, having only just stayed up was a disgrace. The board have to take some responsibility. Look at how stoke have invested year upon year, it can be done in a sensible manner.
 

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I think it was a very short sighted move by the board. Who else are they going to get in and how are they going to make any difference?
 

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I do understand what your saying, but the lack of investment by a team in their 3rd year in the league, having only just stayed up was a disgrace. The board have to take some responsibility. Look at how stoke have invested year upon year, it can be done in a sensible manner.

Erm - looking at the Net spend of Wolves and Stoke over the last 3 years its practically identical - even this season Wolves have spent nearly 11 million Net.
 

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Ah but you're fogetting the power of cheating. Stoke use it, Wolves don't. Points would be very similar without it (actually speaking Stoke would be BELOW Wolves...)
 

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what an effort

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