Football The 2011/2012 Season Thread

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Netherlands, England, Portugal, Czech Republic is our group I think. If thats true out first match will be v Netherlands on 10th June 18:00, the Czech on the 14th , Portugal on the 18th at 20:45.
 
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And if we made it to the quarter finals we'd almost certainly face spain unless we could top our group.
 
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Oh disregard that - we know the pots now but the groups are 'cough' randomly drawn in december - we could get poland :p
 
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Czech/Portugal should be 6 points.

There both equally shit, Portugal just give the ball to Nani/Ronaldo and hope for the best.
 
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We'll get Poland, we always get Poland, it's an old charter or bylaw or something, its probably in the Magna Carta.
 
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Aye blatter is a complete twat...he is now trying to argue he was misunderstood but there is no way to misunderstand his comments as they were straight forward.... no doubt next he be saying it is because his english isnt very good (assume it was in english as was for CNN question)...

Fifa really seem to be doing there best in the last year or so to make themselves look more and more incompetant. Really is getting to a time where back room deals shouldnt be possible to get in power and totally reshape the way FIFA is run. Good step is to not have a president but instead have a proper board that make the decisions and under vote these people can be removed from power if they do something stupid such as blatter has.

Certainly put a massive dent in the fight against racism.... I would love for a club to arrange for their crowd to chant racist things BUT inform everyone involved it is to make a statement. These chants should not be aimed at any one group but do chants against blacks, whites, mexicans, french etc etc .... then at the end of the game have the group of "fans" they arranged to do it come down and stand at the tunnel to shake the hands of all the players as they go off..... Then make the statement "All is fine as we shook hands, thank you Blatter for the advice".
 
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The guy is a dinosaur but just like the corruption charges this will be swept under the rug and forgotten about. The guy has basically said calling a black player a N***** on the pitch is OK because its just banter. It is a shame nothing will change, they will just keep repeating he was quoted out of context until the story goes away.
 
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I am surprised you guys haven't talked about Bendtner and Agger allegedly kicking and punching a guy during the international break.. It's a huge deal back in Denmark and the media is all over it
 
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Playing a lot of icehockey and football in my days I have always had a lot of banter during games but put it behind me as soon as the final whistle goes.
What makes race banter so much worse than calling someone motherfucker or similar over and over?
 
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The fact the society deems racial slurs unacceptable. And Blatter and his organisation are running campaigns to kick it out of football so it makes it even worse coming from him.
 
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We beat Portugal and finished above them in the grp they get 3'rd layer,
Sweden scraped through thier group in second place, we beat them in a recent friendly, they get 3'rd layer: Fifa raking Denmark 10 Sweden 14
Greece ......
Kroatia lower ranked than Denmark, Finished 2'nd in grp had to go through playoffs 3'rd Layer!

The atm likely best team in the world Germany in 2'nd ?
and wtf! are England doing in 2'nd layer..??????


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the pots are done so that a group winners can't meet each other iirc.
 
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Olgaline said:
We beat Portugal and finished above them in the grp they get 3'rd layer,
Sweden scraped through thier group in second place, we beat them in a recent friendly, they get 3'rd layer: Fifa raking Denmark 10 Sweden 14
Greece ......
Kroatia lower ranked than Denmark, Finished 2'nd in grp had to go through playoffs 3'rd Layer!

The atm likely best team in the world Germany in 2'nd ?
and wtf! are England doing in 2'nd layer..??????


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They use the UEFA national team coefficient list - which works like this. It doesn't help that the hosts are ALWAYS in Pot 1, with double hosts who lets face it aren't really going to win the thing it fucks things up
 
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well that explains it..
dosent change the fact that it's stupid.

Groupe winners should always, always be seeded higher than second place, and play off teams.
and I get that it's ok to top seed a host in the WC with 32 teams...or in the EC if you have one host.
but two ? really ?

Heres a group for you:

Spain, Germany, Portugal and France

and

Poland, England, Greece and Denmark

I'll take whats behind door nr two please :D
 
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Olgaline said:
We beat Portugal and finished above them in the grp they get 3'rd layer,
Sweden scraped through thier group in second place, we beat them in a recent friendly, they get 3'rd layer: Fifa raking Denmark 10 Sweden 14
Greece ......
Kroatia lower ranked than Denmark, Finished 2'nd in grp had to go through playoffs 3'rd Layer!

The atm likely best team in the world Germany in 2'nd ?
and wtf! are England doing in 2'nd layer..??????


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You wouldn't be in much better of a position if they put you in group 3 though. I agree putting Poland & Ukraine in group 1 is stupid :(

Who would you swap with England in group 2?
 
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Well heres how I'd Rank it

Layer 1
Germany, Holland, Spain, Italy

Layer 2
England, Portugal, France, Russia

Layer 3
Sweden, Ireland, Croatia, Denmark

Layer 4
Ukraine, Poland, Chezc Rep, Poland

on current form I could argue that DK should be in the second layer instead of France, or Portugal.
If you take grp winning etc..into account then swap DK for Portugal.
 
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good list, I'd maybe swap Sweden for the Czech Republic though.
 
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Historicly yes, on current form ? no
Czech's lost 3-0 to Norway recently, and have struggeld through their grp.

also ofcause Poland dont get two spots ;)
so make that Greece in layer 4
 
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TBH I just thought Sweden were terrible against England. The bookies are also making them real outsiders.
 
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