Football The 2009/2010 Season Thread

[CorNokZ]

chelsea & man u games both absolutely dire in the first half

man U aswell in the 2nd.. And now with Rooney and Carrick subbed for Berbatov and Owen, I don't really see anything changing

 

[Ch3tan]

Great work from Nani there to give scholes the chance.

 

[Ch3tan]

Park is on to seal the victory!

 

[cHodAX]

Away win, it's all golden

 

[leviathane]

Sky Sports | Football | News | Home-grown rule introduced

Dont think it will affect many clubs , maybes arsenal and chelsea if they cant buy anyone but not sure how many english players they have atm.

Also reading from the beebs article.

In a recent report, English clubs were shown to employ the highest proportion of expatriate players, with 59.2% coming from abroad.
Liverpool have the highest percentage in Europe of expatriate players within their squad - with 90% - and only just manage to meet the current Champions League criteria of eight home-grown players in a 28-man squad.

 

[cHodAX]

The Fat Controller and The man who puts the 'Arse' in Arsenal aren't happy it seems...

BBC SPORT | Football | Premier League | Quota rule riles Wenger & Benitez

 

[megadave]

fucking hell, check out the last replay
YouTube - TPS vs. FC Lahti 13.9.2009 - Kauden maali?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSfD3UKItF0&feature=player_embedded#t=95

 

[Lethul]

fucking hell, check out the last replay

Decent shot

 

[soze]

Next season top-flight clubs must name at least eight players in a 25-man squad that are under 21 and have been trained in England or Wales.

Are the BBC reporting that correctly I though it was 8 Home Grown Players and the same rules as CL as in if they trained here for 3 years before turning 21 they were Home Grown?

 

[Ch3tan]

Are the BBC reporting that correctly I though it was 8 Home Grown Players and the same rules as CL as in if they trained here for 3 years before turning 21 they were Home Grown?

Yeah it is wrong in that article, and correct in the other beeb article. Shoddy editing on their online content.

A player must have trained in ANY club in England or Wales for at least 3 years before the age of 21 to be classified as a home grown player.

The only thing this rule will do is encourage premier league clubs to sign their players even younger to ensure they classify as home grown, and will just result in more controversy over the signing of youth players.

 

[Vasconcelos]

CL just started and Pepe is playing for Real Madrid.. Seems like if your payroll is big enough you won't be punished as hard as you should be

Still have 2 days ban in La Liga left

I cant recall a player being punished too by UEFA after an incident in their own league competition. Pepe was already punished for 10 games by the spaniard federation.

 

[Ch3tan]

I cant recall a player being punished too by UEFA after an incident in their own league competition. Pepe was already punished for 10 games by the spaniard federation.

Yep cokenose, the ban was domestic, as it happened in a league competition. UEFA cannot ban a player in europe for something they did in a league competition. Nothing to do with money, it's just how the rules work.

 

[Bahumat]

fucking hell, check out the last replay
YouTube - TPS vs. FC Lahti 13.9.2009 - Kauden maali?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSfD3UKItF0&feature=player_embedded#t=95

Roberto Carlos style

 

[cHodAX]

Slaphead Kenyon is out at Chelsea, his longterm project to make Chelsea a viable business a total failure. Nearly six years in the job and the club is losing as much money as it was 4 years ago.

 

[Talivar]

He is just changing roles, not leaving chelsea

 

[cHodAX]

He is just changing roles, not leaving chelsea

He is taking a back seat, a.k.a. he is being pushed aside because his 5 year plan missed the target by a country mile. The role of non-executive director is a golden handshake, it requires nothing more than 20 days work a year which is a massive stepdown from Cheif Executive Officer.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/chelsea/8259112.stm

He failed, it is that simple. He realised that he couldn't even get Chelsea profitable by the 2012 deadline the Russian imposed 2 years ago and so he is being pushed aside for someone who can drive the clubs finances forward.

 

[megadave]

Yeah he's done really badly. Since joining with gone from being smaller than the likes of spurs to having the 5th highest revenue in the world and being one of the best known clubs (Or brands :|) in the world. Secured record sponsorship deals with adidas and samsung. what a failure!

the fact of the matter is he's resigned to go sit on his pile of cash and probably move to mancity in a few months

 

[cHodAX]

Yeah he's done really badly. Since joining with gone from being smaller than the likes of spurs to having the 5th highest revenue in the world and being one of the best known clubs (Or brands :|) in the world. Secured record sponsorship deals with adidas and samsung. what a failure!

the fact of the matter is he's resigned to go sit on his pile of cash and probably move to mancity in a few months

He has also allowed your wage bill to almost triple, your wage bill is now a higher percentage of total revenue than when he started. Those sponsorship deals still haven't stopped the debt book from growing season after season. You can't deny those are facts bud and he has to carry the can for them which is why he is being pushed aside, in 2007 the Russian was reported to have said the club must break even by 2012 and barring a miracle that will not happen as Chelsea have so many older players sat on huge contracts. Kenyon has to shoulder some of the blame and he is taking the fall, he did bring new contracts in but he totally failed to even get close to balancing the books in a six year period.

 

[cHodAX]

Oh and 5th highest revenue in world football but last season you couldn't even manage 5th highest attendences in England. Chelsea F.C. is not built on a sound financial basis, a club that averages 41,588 through the gates cannot generate the revenue to pay for the players they have. Kenyon won some contracts but that didn't come close to offsetting the rapidly inflating wage bill. As CEO he failed. If he was running Tesco and delivered those financials they would have kicked his arse out the door.

 

[Bahumat]

Yeah he's done really badly. Since joining with gone from being smaller than the likes of spurs to having the 5th highest revenue in the world and being one of the best known clubs (Or brands :|) in the world. Secured record sponsorship deals with adidas and samsung. what a failure!

the fact of the matter is he's resigned to go sit on his pile of cash and probably move to mancity in a few months

Part is that is because Roman bought players to make the team successful thus increasing money from competitions, more glory hunters supporting chelsea thus increase in shirt sales etc

 

[cHodAX]

Look at it this way, he came into the job and said he could make the club break even in 5 years. The 2 years ago they revised forecasts and said by 2012, now with 2010 approaching and still £75 million per season in the red they have realised that Chelsea still aren't pulling anywhere enough revenue in. Infact they need £260 million PER YEAR just to break even and that would pretty much make them world #1 based on income.

It won't happen though, they are already maxed out on what they can expect from shirt and sponsorship deals because they don't have the worldwide or domestic fanbase to justify the same kind of numbers that Real, Barcelona or United can deliver to those sponsors.

Have a look at the figures here, it isn't healthy at all...

Chelsea Football Club | Attendances, Reports, Financials

84.5% of turnover goes on wages and that was for last year, with the new signings I would imagine this years numbers are much worse.

 

[Urgluf]

84.5% of turnover goes on wages and that was for last year, with the new signings I would imagine this years numbers are much worse.

shevchenko left though. he had such a high wage..

 

[cHodAX]

shevchenko left though. he had such a high wage..

The players you brought in during the summer will offset those wage gains, also those numbers I posted are for 07/08 so the wages for the likes of Anelka/Boswinga will have added to the 08/09 numbers which I haven't found yet, I think they are better but still a long way from healthy. Oh and those numbers will reflect a Champions League final revenue which the 2010 numbers won't have the benefit of.

 

[Ch3tan]

BBC SPORT | Football | Non League | Conference clubs handed windfall

 

[Aoami]

£1m, how generous

 

[Ormorof]

with clubs being run on pennies anything is welcome though they could easily have spared more

 

[Marc]

My team fleetwood, doesnt need it. We already have a multi millionaire owner

 

[Ch3tan]

£1m, how generous

Well considering the TV deal that fell through with sultanta was £2.5mill over 5 years, this one off payment is a lot of money, it will help keep the clubs that relied on that income afloat.

It's great that they give anything, when there is no requirement to. Always makes me laugh when gifts are scorned on the basis the giver could afford more.

 

[Ormorof]

and adebayor is not going to contest violent conduct, ben man utd fans quite happy hes not playing and no robinho either it seems

 

[megadave]

Each team would have lost about 50k from setanta going bust, money they would have probably been expecting. They'll gain about 15k each out of the 1m.

also is tevez fit? guess its lucky that mancity have 8 fowards after all xD