taxidermists?

[Lamp]

judging by all the grime on the side of that keyboard it doesn't surprise me he likes eating spunk

 

[Ormorof]

thats awesome, my housemate once brought home a dead cat and left it under my window planning on making me help her bury it the next day... two weeks later she remembered after i had been complaining about a weird smell whenever i opened my window

oh and on topic in off topic: Simpson Taxidermy On-Line

gifv pics once your done

 

[Ezteq]

Ok firstly Toht. rofl I am not going to do the whole thing where you decide to pick the opposite point and go all rainman about it, fine I'm degrading the fox, you said it and low it must me true, there you won now carry on counting toothpicks.

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and eww lol I am not skinning it! It's buried to decompose naturally!! feeding the bugs and werms and stuff then when its all clean then I'll get it back lol, I don't do the mushy/texas chainsaw stuff. I have a really nice little mouse jawbone that some kid got me from an owl pellet and brought into the library for me, nice clean bone no fleshy bits you bloodthirsty sods... you think I'm gruesome??

ty Orm for the information! 3 pages later I get something!

 

[soze]

From somewhere else

Have worked in the funeral business for quite awhile. I guess everyone has questions like this from time to time. depends on soil type, if it's wet,etc. Depends on how thick the box was, how heavy the cardboard was. Lots of variables,but PLEASE...do not put yourself through the process of exhumation. If you are still itching to know, there is a book by Dr. Bill Bass called Death's Acre. He started the body farm at University of Tennessee. It is a study in human decomposition and rate of decay. Think about it before you read it. The beloved animals should be bone in less than a year.

 

[Ezteq]

but on CSI and Bones...they are always skeletonised within hours of dying!!! and they have particulates!!

and Phew!! thank god I was so disrespectful to the fox and didn't get it the gilt ornimented coffin with brass handles and weeping cherubs I was planning on using! I'd have been at it for years!

 

[Bahumat]

You fill bones with spunk?

I can save you some if you like?

 

[old.Tohtori]

Ok firstly Toht. rofl I am not going to do the whole thing where you decide to pick the opposite point and go all rainman about it, fine I'm degrading the fox, you said it and low it must me true, there you won now carry on counting toothpicks.

If you don't want to discuss something or even can't, then just f*cking say so without hopping on some imaginary high pony. It's nothing to do with "deciding to go opposite", i just think you're actions are wrong. Lo and behold, you start to discuss it, but then suddenly use that cop-out.

That's just piss poor behavior acting like that about it. Atleast have the balls to say you don't want to talk about it.

But since you don't like to discuss it; you're disgusting and waiting for the fox to decompose to rob the bones is even more sick. You have no say in animal cruelty in my books anymore, you're worse. F*cking vulture with no respect.

 

[Ezteq]

Tom Cruise is here, he says you have to leave now

 

[soze]

but on CSI and Bones...they are always skeletonised within hours of dying!!! and they have particulates!!

and Phew!! thank god I was so disrespectful to the fox and didn't get it the gilt ornimented coffin with brass handles and weeping cherubs I was planning on using! I'd have been at it for years!

I can be booth i have the big belt buckle and everything!

We need a big glass tank some smart people and flesh eating beetles! Although as they only eat flesh they might end up on strike unless you use some hair eating caterpillars to shave the fox first.

Theres a storm brewin someone get some handbags this could get physical. £10 on Ez she has read too many books to not know how to kill with a tooth pick.

 

[Ezteq]

you know I actually feel sorry for the beetles lol they are pawns in Brennans game "here ya go boys chow time!!...and when youve finished we shall keeel you all Muwahahaa eeeeat my pretties eeeeat!!!"

 

[fettoken]

Ez, you don't seem to have crazy written over you.. but you might as well

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

<--- I imagine that being you...

"Oh, look... a fox!!!!" *points at fox while dancing around half naked* later: *cuts up fox and cook the bones*

 

[Ezteq]

um, afaik charles darwin did this kind of stuff...would it help is I re-grew my beard? give me some added gravitas.

 

[Ezteq]

Now then, back on topic,

Bournemouth Natural Science Society - BNSS
This place is awesome and is where I got my interest in this stuff just lately (though as a child I would usually find interesting stuff while roaming through the fields and woods near my house. They have collections of everything from geological, botanical to wildlife they have stuff in their collectin that is well over 100 years old (including some really cool pickled termite queens that look like mini 'Alien' Queens).

They do lectures to the public a couple of times a week on a huge variety of topics, I like the ones about dinosaurs, the solar system and wildlife although there was a great one about early celtic life. A lot of their collection of wildlife is taxidermied or skelitonised samples but there is nothing ghoulish or gothic about the people who go there (think of a bunch of uper middle class grandparents), no one delights in the death of the creatures they are dead and have been put to use as educational aids and many of the societies activities revolve around helping wildlife.

If yo have something like this near you go check it out this society is full of friendly, inquisitive and astoundingly knowledgable people. They generally have open days at this one and are really welcoming to newcomers.

 

[old.Tohtori]

But to keep on topic since it's her special thread;

I do find taxidermy morbid in a way.

Afterall, people treat dogs, cats, guinea pigs as family and then stuff them.

It's just, well, you wouldn't stuff a baby and mount it in a cute pose for all eternity?

 

[Jupitus]

Keep it civil guys.

 

[Sparx]

is it just me or has some of this thread vanished?

 

[old.Tohtori]

is it just me or has some of this thread vanished?

Yup. Along with a lovely infraction.

Anyway, let's not bother with it anymore.

 

[Garaen]

Toht, I find it quite funny that you're going mental at the fact she is "robbing the bones" of a dead fox and not at the fact that taking a dead fox and wanting it to decompose is an extremelly excentric thing to do in contemporary society. I'm pretty sure everyone will agree that there's nothing cruel about taking the fox's already dead body and taking the bones, it's just plane strange.

Yes Ez, Darwin did do similar things but over 150 years ago

 

[old.Tohtori]

Toht, I find it quite funny that you're going mental at the fact she is "robbing the bones" of a dead fox and not at the fact that taking a dead fox and wanting it to decompose is an extremelly excentric thing to do in contemporary society. I'm pretty sure everyone will agree that there's nothing cruel about taking the fox's already dead body and taking the bones, it's just plane strange.

Not cruel, but if someone can't respect dead animals that much, especially those living and dying free in the wild, i personally find the activity closer to vultures and as such, give it less value then those killing animals for a purpose(which i have no problem with really).

I do rate animals a lot more times higher then humans, so i'd rather EQ mount her gran on a stand then a random fox.

 

[Bugz]

If you don't want to discuss something or even can't, then just f*cking say so without hopping on some imaginary high pony. It's nothing to do with "deciding to go opposite", i just think you're actions are wrong. Lo and behold, you start to discuss it, but then suddenly use that cop-out.

That's just piss poor behavior acting like that about it. Atleast have the balls to say you don't want to talk about it.

But since you don't like to discuss it; you're disgusting and waiting for the fox to decompose to rob the bones is even more sick. You have no say in animal cruelty in my books anymore, you're worse. F*cking vulture with no respect.

Animal Cruelty is the infliction of suffering or harm to animals in a physical or mental way.

How does that relate to picking up a dead animal?

Are you a vegetarian Toht? Do you eat meat or fish? The animals are killed for us. Does that not make you worse than Ez? Are you not then a vulture with no respect for other living animals?

Although I think Ez is a bit strange for doing this (to be fair - ez you're a bit strange full stop but thats why your so liked around here, because you are proud of said fact and because you make it up by being rather lovely in the non-weird departments) you need to remove yourself from the thread because you're being, quite frankly, out of order.

Oh and no doubt the reason Ez decided to stop arguing with you was because she found the same results we have all had in the past: a hopeless battle where you always have to take the unique stance or provide so little benefit to a thread it was probably better if you didn't post in it.

 

[Lamp]

It's just, well, you wouldn't stuff a baby and mount it in a cute pose for all eternity?

Most people who keep pets (dogs, cats, lizards etc) get terribly attached to them and some display photographs, others might get tattoos to remember them. Others will have them stuffed. To my (limited) knowledge I can't think of a single culture in history that used to taxiderm their dead human offspring.

But having said that, the Egyptians preserved their royalty by mummifying them, and I've actually seen Lenin's pickled preserved corpse in his mausoleum

 

[old.Tohtori]

Animal Cruelty is the inflictio*snip*ou didn't post in it.

Not even going to bother, all your answers are on the thread already.

Killing animals for a reason is ok.
Salvaging dead animals is disrespectful.
I eat meat, yes, but it's du to our tribe hunting them for a reason.
Sheep and cows are like wheat, not natural.

Thought you had me on ignore? Guess not.

Most people who keep pets (dogs, cats, lizards etc) get terribly attached to them and some display photographs, others might get tattoos to remember them. Others will have them stuffed. To my (limited) knowledge I can't think of a single culture in history that used to taxiderm their dead human offspring.

Exactly. Taht's why i find it morbid, it's like stuffing nan on a chair.

 

[Sparx]

Yup. Along with a lovely infraction.

Anyway, let's not bother with it anymore.

Thats a little petty, you should have just put her on ignore for a couple of days till you calmed down. No need to bring the mods into it.

Its the same people who go running to the mods every time their pride gets bruised that complain when we are being censored

 

[old.Tohtori]

Thats a little petty, you should have just put her on ignore for a couple of days till you calmed down. No need to bring the mods into it.

Its the same people who go running to the mods every time their pride gets bruised that complain when we are being censored

I got the infraction...

 

[Sparx]

Why did you get it?

 

[Bugz]

Not even going to bother, all your answers are on the thread already.

Thought you had me on ignore? Guess not.

It shows your posts when I'm not logged in

 

[Lamp]

It actually wouldn't surprise me in the least if they decide to preserve Michael Jackson's body, encase him in some elaborate glass box, and charge fans around the world $50 a time to see the corpse...

 

[Sparx]

It actually wouldn't surprise me in the least if they decide to preserve Michael Jackson's body, encase him in some elaborate glass box, and charge fans around the world $50 a time to see the corpse.

Thats only cause he wont decompose, he isnt biodegradable

 

[Lamp]

lol

 

[Thorwyn]

But having said that, the Egyptians preserved their royalty by mummifying them,

...so did the Chinese (google for "Lady Dai"... damn amazing story), the Inkas, and - to a lesser extend - even the christian cultures. I´m pretty sure that the rituals of embalming dead bodies is a symbolized act of preserving them.

As for the respect and cruelty aspect.. I don´t find it particulary disrespectful to pick up a dead fox and try to preserve it. I guess the intention behind it is the key. After all, the preserved body serves a purpose (being an object for studying etc).

Interesting philosophical discussion if you´re willing to take if that far.