Take a step back

[censi]

no problem. believe it or not I like ging. we have our differences in game, but I think he posts in good spirit, doesnt claim to be gods gift to daoc and comes accross as a nice guy. he gets little /hugs from me in game when I see him too. but apparently I have a vendetta against all that are in synergy.

 

[Ging]

yes I think the whole forum knows you are a big guy chuck. You have told us like 500 times.

FYI theres a difference between big and fat :touch:

Anti ban disclaimer: not saying you are either though (except "big" in my first statement which is a compliment and an adjective you have already used to describe yourself. Just in case eggy argues calling someone big irl is a personal attack )

must be a bummer having to explain your every word

500 is a tad of an exageration, i would say 4. but ofc your free to express your poetic licence.

 

[censi]

must be a bummer having to explain your every word

yes it suxs. can i join your guild please.

 

[Ging]

he gets little /hugs from me in game when I see him too. but apparently I have a vendetta against all that are in synergy.

those little hugs are normally a 2 sec warning to getting my arse kicked!

<Censimellia waves at you/hugs you>
oh where is the little git! <pans around>
bang, bang, bang.
<Censimellia waves hugs you>
/release
<put £50 in the swear box>

no offence Censi, you constantly bring the guilds name into your posts in a degenerative or negative way, so yea it is presumed u have a vendetta against synergy.

 

[Ging]

yes it suxs. can i join your guild please.

feel free to apply here, all are welcome to our little home

www.synergydeathcrew.com

btw only Eggy and Beeks can inv

 

[censi]

btw only Eggy and Beeks can inv

I might need some help on that one.

 

[censi]

no offence Censi, you constantly bring the guilds name into your posts in a degenerative or negative way, so yea it is presumed u have a vendetta against synergy.

i dont think I do, in fact I think its the other way around. again I urge you too look at

https://forums.freddyshouse.com/showpost.php?p=2902508&postcount=450

if you think otherwise.

 

[Ging]

I might need some help on that one.

you know what i loved about a new school year? A fresh start/clean slate

 

[Ging]

all those synergy guys responded with nothing to do with the point but basicaly calling me a faggot, and a wanker etc. (not modded out either)

i only had to go back 3 pages

 

[censi]

so i dont have a point?

 

[Mastade]

When will you learn it Censi.. arguing with members of Synergy always results in a ban, no matter what you say, how you say it..

 

[Ging]

so i dont have a point?

ill discuss this with u at the london meet

then u can get me pissed and get me to agree with anything u say

 

[Ging]

When will you learn it Censi.. arguing with members of Synergy always results in a ban, no matter what you say, how you say it..

aww utter rot mustard! We have never agreed on anything and your still allowed to post here. irrifutable proof tbh

i love a good argument, especially on a slow friday afternoon

mind u its more fun arguing with members of synergy in the autumn, winter, spring when there more than jsut the two of us

 

[Elrandhir]

I couldent ever take anything serious ingame really, sure I can get annoyed, but I don't really give whatever happens ingame a second thought after that really.

Opinion differs to all, but I could never get upset for real about something that happens ingame.

I win duels, I loose duels, I get zerged or whatever, I might curse abit and then Il keep going again.

 

[Golena]

Also i still ask you and others why you cant have a discussion like you would in rl?
If ANYONE here say they have some of the discussions i seen here, with a person they never met over a game in rl, they lie.
So why is that? Why act differently here? Why not have a heated discussion about the game as you would discuss it in rl?

To those people that say you must discuss things on an internet forum in the way you would in real life, sorry but your making the wrong point!

The two are differing mediums and as such shouldn't by default be treated the same.. Just because I wouldn't say something to your face in a pub doesn't mean it's wrong to say it here.. It might be wrong to say it here, but that would be for it's own merits not simply because I wouldn't say it in real life..

If I went to a football match it would probably be deemed quite acceptable for me and the rest of my fans to chant "your not singing any more" at the opposition.. Everyone knows that next year when they are winning, they'll do the same back to us, no harm done.. In fact it's part of the jovial atmosphere of a sporting event.
If I went to the funeral of one of the opposition fans and stood over his coffin doing the same thing, i'd have a fairly short lifespan, and everyone concerned would agree that I was a complete prick.

An internet forum is a different place to a pub, and as such shouldn't be bound by the same rules.. Making IRL threats and rasist abuse isn't acceptable, I think we can all (or at least most of us) agree on that. Where the problems are is the grey area in the middle. Many of the problems here is that this is the only internet forum many of it's readers actually visit, and so haven't realised that it's a different culture to what they are used to. Neither side is about to admit there's another side to the argument however so it's an argument that's going to go on for a while..
:touch:

 

[Elrandhir]

Im with Ebe on this tbh, if you can't say something constructive and without calling people names, then you shouldent say anything atall tbh.

I probably wouldent have said this when I was much younger, who knows, in my eyes atleast all that have to do so seems very young and imature.

 

[ebenezer]

That's completely irrelevant because there has to be a reason why you would insult someone. You don't think ingame actions are valid reasons for flames or insults, but in some cases I do. That's where our opinion differs.

I think it's funny you are pushing so hard on the fact you should treat people online with as much respect as you would if they were irl, yet you feel that what happens in daoc doesn't matter at all. If someone griefs the fuck out of people with the sole purpose to piss them off, I think they are ***** and sometimes I will express my opinion.

You won't see me make a flamethread about someone, don't think I ever did the past 4 years I spammed these boards, but I see no difference between respect in daoc, on fh or irl. Because it goes through a wire doesn't mean the people or emotions aren't real. Act like scum, get treated like scum; act nice and get treated nice.

No vodka, you missunderstood me there Im not saying actions in daoc doesnt matter. Im saying playstyles doesnt matter.
You know what i mean and what the difference is.
Someone stalking you and pissing you off all the time with adding, fair enough that would tick me off as well if i disliked that way of gaming.
Playing like you want to and adding just cause they feel they like that kind of gaming and not going out to grief anyone in perticular..no not worthy of any abuse imo.
And thats were i think its wrong. And thats were i react.
What is more important though is how you treat people verbaly in game.
What i really cant understand and in some way just gape in disbelief at is how brainwashed people really are in some ways here in daoc.

You can have a guy that is a complete asshole socially and that wouldnt last a day in rl with that behaviour.
But he respects the code of not adding, and lol...that makes him a guy to respect??? What is wrong with that logic?
So many in this game think that what playstyle you belong to makes what you are as a human being in rl lol wtf??
How can you confuse a thing like that?

And dont confuse it with the constant griefing now vodka....but im merely talking about the guys that plays realm vs realm and dont care about FH etc.

Its like the people that likes solo fights all have to be morons, and cant think for themselfs.
they just gotta repeat the code( DONT ADD)) and that protects them from all moral boundaries.
Just dont add and you are an ok guy, even if you tell someone to die in rl!!
Comon hehe...
i see so many that cant stand on their onw legs here on FH and say what they think, they just repeat what the other leet dudes say...like a mantra^^

You know my playstyle and that i love soloing. i have the same code many times as the cool dudes in the censi club.
But i dont feel like i have to be an asshole.
eb.

 

[Golena]

You can have a guy that is a complete asshole socially and that wouldnt last a day in rl with that behaviour.
But he respects the code of not adding, and lol...that makes him a guy to respect??? What is wrong with that logic?
So many in this game think that what playstyle you belong to makes what you are as a human being in rl lol wtf??
How can you confuse a thing like that?

No offense because you do make some good points..

But probably it's exactly the same way you seem to be equating what people say on here with how people think of the other person in real life..

See if I call someone an "adding tard" on here, what i'm not saying is that I would not get on with him in the real world. I'm talking about his "in game" persona, it is a roleplaying game, and this forum is an extension of the game, not of the pub down the road..

My character in game runs about hitting people with swords, I wouldn't do that to the other guys in real life either, but I don't hear people making that comparison as a sensible point very often..

 

[Coldbeard]

Im with Ebe on this tbh, if you can't say something constructive and without calling people names, then you shouldent say anything atall tbh.

I probably wouldent have said this when I was much younger, who knows, in my eyes atleast all that have to do so seems very young and imature.

Lets think we are capable of changing human nature shall we.

 

[censi]

the term nice guy irl has become like a silly thing because like people use it to defend someone who plays like in a real hardcore unforgiving fashion blasting anything he sees in his path kind of thing.

its just kind of funny that his friends in game defend him by saying, yer but hes a nice guy irl though meight.

I cant explain the irony and its why I use the phrase a lot. you just either get it or you dont get it.

bit like the "I pay my subs meight".

people come up with these little sayings which in their warped view is a license to just do whatever the hell you like. they never try and put up any sort of decent arguement though because they know its wrong but these statements are like some kind of justification which they feel is apropriate.

hard to explain u either just get it or you dont (explained it awefully badly though my apolagies)

 

[Vodkafairy]

No vodka, you missunderstood me there Im not saying actions in daoc doesnt matter. Im saying playstyles doesnt matter.
You know what i mean and what the difference is.
Someone stalking you and pissing you off all the time with adding, fair enough that would tick me off as well if i disliked that way of gaming.
Playing like you want to and adding just cause they feel they like that kind of gaming and not going out to grief anyone in perticular..no not worthy of any abuse imo.
And thats were i think its wrong. And thats were i react.
What is more important though is how you treat people verbaly in game.
What i really cant understand and in some way just gape in disbelief at is how brainwashed people really are in some ways here in daoc.

You can have a guy that is a complete asshole socially and that wouldnt last a day in rl with that behaviour.
But he respects the code of not adding, and lol...that makes him a guy to respect??? What is wrong with that logic?
So many in this game think that what playstyle you belong to makes what you are as a human being in rl lol wtf??
How can you confuse a thing like that?

And dont confuse it with the constant griefing now vodka....but im merely talking about the guys that plays realm vs realm and dont care about FH etc.

Its like the people that likes solo fights all have to be morons, and cant think for themselfs.
they just gotta repeat the code( DONT ADD)) and that protects them from all moral boundaries.
Just dont add and you are an ok guy, even if you tell someone to die in rl!!
Comon hehe...
i see so many that cant stand on their onw legs here on FH and say what they think, they just repeat what the other leet dudes say...like a mantra^^

You know my playstyle and that i love soloing. i have the same code many times as the cool dudes in the censi club.
But i dont feel like i have to be an asshole.
eb.

holy shit, maybe you should write a book about how awful people can be on the internet? your post has so little relevance to the thread and the ongoing discussion i don't even know what to reply. its seriously freaky, maybe time to take a deep breath and read what you're actually replying to and then what you wrote yourself.

i agree with golena's post, nothing more to say.

 

[censi]

kind of what I felt. you can say one thing and ebeenzer will like reply in massive detail about something else on a completly different tangent.

I really jumped on him once for doing it (I did apolagise), and now he hates me. he is a really sensitive person and im sure a genuinly nice guy. but he refuses to listen to people.

 

[Vodkafairy]

kind of what I felt. you can say one thing and ebeenzer will like reply in massive detail about something else on a completly different tangent.

I really jumped on him once for doing it (I did apolagise), and now he hates me. he is a really sensitive person and im sure a genuinly nice guy. but he refuses to listen to people.

well i agree with most what he said in his post. but it may aswell be something like: the sun is hot, grass is green, etc. discussions are to talk about the points where opinions differ, not to talk about what everyone already agrees on.

don't want to offend him for being a carebear who wishes everyone was nice and wubbly towards eachother, and it must suck for him to live in such a cruel world, but oh well.

 

[Loonatik]

:eek

I'm not even going to try to reply to all the different posts here, but it was actually nice reading them. Lots of valid points and no personal insults

As I started the discussion, I just want to make a few things clear.

First, I'm by no means a saint when playing DAoC. I yell and curse when things go wrong, and I call people not-so-nice things when they kill me (and I get killed a lot!) or behave in a way I don't like.

Second, I don't want a FH where everbody deals out hugs and kisses and write cuddly poems to each other. A strong and active player community is very important for a game, and the DAoC community is by far the best I've seen. As the purpose of the game is to fight two enemy realms, it's inevitable that most of the discussions and arguments happen around RvR issues. Again, there's nothing wrong with that - it's in fact vital to keep up the interest in the game.

However, a strong and active community has nothing to do with people calling each other things they would never do in real life. Take the very common "Retard" as an example. Why on earth would I call somebody I don't know a thing about a retard...? I don't know about the rest of you, but where I live that would be a very strong insult and you almost never hear adults use it at all. You hear it a lot amongst school kids though, because 95% of them don't have a clue what it really means.
If you think a player or realm should change in some way, why don't you try to do it without insults and flaming? I'm sure you would get a lot further with constructive suggestions instead of making people upset, angry or even sad.
VF thinks it's a way of getting better RvR the next day. Well, maybe in some cases (like making an enemy realm upset to increase RvR activity for example) but in the long run I think you're just making people quit the game faster.

This is my very personal opinions, and obviously everybody doesn't share them. I guess people play DAoC for different reasons, and those reasons affect the way we behave in game and on FH. I play for fun, and I couldn't care less if Albion has 0 or 6 relics when I do it. I'd like to see DAoC survive a bit longer, because I still love to play it and with a decent RvR activity it has a chance at least. We should all try to encourage people to continue playing, the players in the low populated reams in particular. We all need each other to continue enjoying this great game.

/salute

 

[ebenezer]

well i agree with most what he said in his post. but it may aswell be something like: the sun is hot, grass is green, etc. discussions are to talk about the points where opinions differ, not to talk about what everyone already agrees on.

don't want to offend him for being a carebear who wishes everyone was nice and wubbly towards eachother, and it must suck for him to live in such a cruel world, but oh well.

im not offended vodka Im saying things that i do mean and i think valid points, and i think many feels the same way.( got proof of that through pms etc)
If you dont wanna go into that discussion fine. We wont. And you make it sound like im tearing my soul open and spew my guts out when i write something..
hehe thats not the case You can stay easy, i got broad shoulders and can take whatever you say as long as its something worth reading.

Censi seem to think he got to me as well, thats not the case at all.
I think he acts like a jerk to soem people and i stand by that. i ignored him after what he said and that worked fine
I didnt however get any apology that i saw( since of the ignore)
If that was sincere il accept it and move on.
I dont hate the guy, i just dont like what he says sometimes...and i feel he is also over reacting quite a bit on these boards at times..

Anyhow. Its time to solo some in game...
nn.

 

[ebenezer]

:eek

I'm not even going to try to reply to all the different posts here, but it was actually nice reading them. Lots of valid points and no personal insults

As I started the discussion, I just want to make a few things clear.

First, I'm by no means a saint when playing DAoC. I yell and curse when things go wrong, and I call people not-so-nice things when they kill me (and I get killed a lot!) or behave in a way I don't like.

Second, I don't want a FH where everbody deals out hugs and kisses and write cuddly poems to each other. A strong and active player community is very important for a game, and the DAoC community is by far the best I've seen. As the purpose of the game is to fight two enemy realms, it's inevitable that most of the discussions and arguments happen around RvR issues. Again, there's nothing wrong with that - it's in fact vital to keep up the interest in the game.

However, a strong and active community has nothing to do with people calling each other things they would never do in real life. Take the very common "Retard" as an example. Why on earth would I call somebody I don't know a thing about a retard...? I don't know about the rest of you, but where I live that would be a very strong insult and you almost never hear adults use it at all. You hear it a lot amongst school kids though, because 95% of them don't have a clue what it really means.
If you think a player or realm should change in some way, why don't you try to do it without insults and flaming? I'm sure you would get a lot further with constructive suggestions instead of making people upset, angry or even sad.
VF thinks it's a way of getting better RvR the next day. Well, maybe in some cases (like making an enemy realm upset to increase RvR activity for example) but in the long run I think you're just making people quit the game faster.

This is my very personal opinions, and obviously everybody doesn't share them. I guess people play DAoC for different reasons, and those reasons affect the way we behave in game and on FH. I play for fun, and I couldn't care less if Albion has 0 or 6 relics when I do it. I'd like to see DAoC survive a bit longer, because I still love to play it and with a decent RvR activity it has a chance at least. We should all try to encourage people to continue playing, the players in the low populated reams in particular. We all need each other to continue enjoying this great game.

/salute

good points

 

[Entran]

Well im with ebe.

Simple solution though. Dont abuse people and you wont get hated?

 

[Eyres]

[*]Brite (repeated direct personal attacks)

Calling syngery zergers is repeated direct personal attacks? its stating a fact and ive seen certain synergy mods make several direct personal attacks

but i guess its one rule for you guys, one rule for the majority and another rule for people who beat you ingame

 

[Manisch Depressiv]

Angry rabbits everywhere. When I am too angry, I like some good tea or pussy juice. It helps me to get calm.

Currently I play Guild Wars and there is a random 4 vs 4 in a arena and some of the players call me names because I cripple (aka snare) them and run away to do other important stuff. It's often "noob runner" and I just respond "grow up and get clue" and laugh about them. And then the discussion usually starts and I own them in a game chat and end up on ignore.

I've been through everything here on FH, some people will whine when they get killed and say something against you, when they win, they will not say anything or maybe congratulate on the good fight, even if it was just the same fight but with a different outcome due to some minor effect.

Certain prominent members of the FG scene have been always assholes on here, regardless of if you met them in game or not, regardless of how you played and it sometimes amused me, because I knew that the high ground they claim with winning more fights has a fragile nature due to unbalanced realms/classes and timers on realm and item abilities. For me DAoC never involved a lot of skill, due to the lack of deception and I like games where the use of deception is a decisive factor of winning a battle or not.

It was okay to farm low RR zergs and make movies containing it while winning, but it was also okay to abuse them verbally on forums or IRC when losing to them.

This game and the forums have a lot of glorious hypocrites, if you beat them, everything is okay, if they beat you, time to flame.

Try some tea or pussy juice. It really tastes good.

 

[GrIrcSpammer]

why do people care so much about mods? all of them are rpcows ingame anyway.whats so bad in a sentence "u re a prick" when its obvious that people that play with bad manners will be treated in a way that reflects their ingame attitude even on some public forums.I agree to the fact personal insults must have limits and yes tards that post life threats and other shit must be banned(porn or whatever) but still what keeps this forum alive is flaming . Like it or not more people read these posts than any other posts because of the epeen fence and yes thats the truth eggy. Now i may be just a spoiled 20y old nolifer but this forum isnt about me or my life or my attitude but Freddyshouse>rpg> DARKAGEOFCAMELOT! so if u expect a forum about a game that has 3 realms and enemies all over without insults u are silly(wanted to say something else but it d prolly get moded anyway".But ofc this is not our forum but urs(referring to the mods osv) so we wont tell u what to do tho u must realise that by your attitude u are just self nerfing the influence and the popularity that these boards have .Talking about this is so useless but i got nothing to do etc Respect in this game is earned by ur skills/attitude ingame and not if u re a "nice" guy in some forum.Name one mod thats not an rpcow.i myself was playing my sb for some time and had some contact with eggy ..never added on synzergy and they didnt add on me either but then dno what happened... recruiting people that behaved like pricks towards me or w/e so eventually i grew to disrespect em.Check their ranks they are mostly high rr yet never have actually managed to compete in fg rvr with the top guilds.. they say they play for fun but i dont see the fun in losing and getting farmed by the same people all the time.So aslong as people understand that these boards should tolerate some agressive statements we should be ok .. if they dont well no fun posts , no people getting banned and the daoc boards will die at least



dont u just love the way i write stuff that doesnt connect to each other but just as i think em :X r0x! ow and btw to the people calling me or others leetbois i m the one that actually talks to any1 and advise people about stuff ingame when people that say "i pay my own subs" , " som1 got ownd", "crymore!" when they chain add/zerg you behave like shit all the time.So if trying to be urself .. to be nice towards other people and actually say what u think bad or good is bad then there is no point for these forum to exist. much <3 for every1 except the shit people! i cant even say evil words tt sucks

edit : myself i got a perma 20% warn for calling eggy a nazi mod . Some1 tell me how many times people joke about nazi mods etc and seriously does any1 fucking think i trully believe eggy is a nazi ? lol ;D So if this is a serious warning i dont even wanna see what the people u mentionned eggy got banned for.dno why i m even writing since the post will be edited or deleted anyway.