subclassing

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pinched from vn

Dont know which classes gonna be able to pick from which subclass lines yet.

but food for thought

im kind of looking at the below ones particulary.

Health transfer
Lifetap
Heal
Resistances : Body/Spirit/Energy
Resistances : Heat/Cold/Matter
Resistances : Melee
Parry buff I
Parry buff II
Evade buff I
Evade buff II
Self and temporary Toughness buff ( RA-like, +max HP ? )
Self and temporary ABS buff
Health transfer
Lifetap
AE Disease

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Support :

Minor Heal
Heal
Health Regen
Cure Poison
Cure Disease
Minor baseline AF
Minor baseline Dex
Minor baseline Str
Minor baseline Con
Minor spec Str/Con
Minor spec Dex/Qui
Minor (spec) Acuity
Group Heal I
Group Heal II
Resistances : Body/Spirit/Energy
Resistances : Heat/Cold/Matter
Resistances : Melee

Self buffs :

Damage Shield I
Damage Shield II
Self Heal over Time I
Self Heal over Time II
Self Str buff
Self Dex buff
(seems to be no Self Con buff)
Self Str/Con buff
Self Dex/Qui buff
Self AF buff (base or spec?)
Self Melee Haste

Fighters :

Parry buff I
Parry buff II
Minor self Damage Add (frenchs are not sure)
Self and temporary AF buff
Self and temporary End regen buff ( OF RA-like ? )
Self and temporary Determination buff ( RA-like )
Self and temporary Toughness buff ( RA-like, +max HP ? )
Self and temporary ABS buff

Rogues :
Evade buff I
Evade buff II
Safe Fall I
Body resistance buff, non-personal.

Damage Spells :

Fire :

DD I
DD II
AE DD I
AE DD II
Bolt

Cold :

DD I
DD II
DD +resist debuff I
DD +resist debuff II
AE DD I
AE DD II
DD +snare
AE DD +snare
PBAE DD
Bolt

Spirit :

DD I
DD II
DD +snare
AE DD +snare
PBAE DD

Matter :

DD I
DD II
GTAE DD
DoT I
DoT II
DoT I, Stacking
DoT II, Stacking
AE DoT I
AE DoT II
PBAE DoT
DD +snare I
DD +snare II
AE DD +snare I
AE DD +snare II
PBAE DD

Body :

DD I
DD II
DD +snare
AE DD
DD +resist debuff
AE DD +resist debuff

Life :

Health transfer
Lifetap

Energy :

DD I
DD +snare
AE DD +snare
GTAE DD
PBAE DD
DoT I
DoT II
AE DoT I
AE DoT II

Suppression :

Single Dex debuff
Single Str debuff
Single Dex/Qui debuff
Single Str/Con debuff
AE Dex/Qui debuff
AE Str/Con debuff

Damage adds :
Damage Add I, non-personal
Damage Add II, non-personal
Damage Shield I, non-personal

Diseases :
Disease
AE Disease

Weapons :

Realm-based, allows :

1h sword
2h sword
1h axe
2h axe
1h hammer
2h hammer
Spears
Staves ('fighting staves')
Claws ( expect H2H, not vampiir, which are spells )
Flexibles

 

[Knolan]

i dont like the desease part tbh.. even more interuupts.

 

[illu]

I'm going to get Lifetap V, HoT III, PD5, Instanuke I and FU II and get payback on all those Casters, Bainshees, Vamps and Ranger-types :>

Oli - Illu

 

[Calo]

dunno if its a good idea, i mean if everyone in a single grp has few spirit dd's and few abs or hots or .. gonna be fun for casters, now everyone has all kind of tricks to interrupt them

 

[Spetsnaz]

hmmmmm evade 2 on warden + safe fall + self str/con and dex/quik buff + PD and aoe disease+determination buff and or LT cool gif !!!

me like this

 

[Danamyr]

...and FU II and get payback on all those Casters, Bainshees, Vamps and Ranger-types :>

Oli - Illu

LOL IRL! You're my favourite assassin

 

[Urgluf]

this will suck so much

 

[Zeratuhl]

this will suck so much

agree ;(

 

[Chronictank]

tanks with det5 charge 3 det buff

why do i get the feeling they havent thought this through as per usual

 

[Jaem-]

Looks interesting, altho I believe it will have a huge impact on RvR.

 

[Flimgoblin]

woot a twice-translated list of abilities with no notion of the requirements or limitations on how to get them or any idea of delves

quick, it's the end of the world - time to whine!

 

[Donledirse]

And then you find out their only usable in PVE

 

[rure]

woot a twice-translated list of abilities with no notion of the requirements or limitations on how to get them or any idea of delves

quick, it's the end of the world - time to whine!

Unlike word-to-mouth (or whatever its called) internet and pasting between forums can provide the exact same story. However, I do agree with you, absolutely nothing to whine about yet

 

[elbeek]

this will suck so much

OMG we are d000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000med.

 

[Kalidur]

aint you only allowed 5, and dont they come with pre-requisits. Like if you wanted to get the parry 2 buff u'd have to get the parry 1 buff first ??

so trying to get things like parry 2, evade 2, healing 2 aint possible.

but the Det5+stoice+det buff is gonna a bit much.

 

[Arumos]

ffs why can't they stop adding shit and just fix what problems there are atm,
or at best leave the game as it is, more unbalance just isn't gunna be fun

 

[Eregion]

insta lifetap to healers plz

 

[Ging]

Well tbh Det5+Stoiacism (25%) = 80% cc reduction to start with, then add on the 15 sec charge every 90 sec. Not to mention with 50% body resist a red mezz will last about < 8 sec with castable stun lasting about 1 sec.

Yea make light tanks completely uncc'able

 

[Talivar]

what if tanks cant even get the det buff?

 

[Calo]

what if tanks cant even get the det buff?

that det thing would be good for skalds tbh, or the parry buff...

finally i can become more a decent tank then some kind of speedbot with few interrupts who gets cc'd 50000 times in a fight...

 

[Flimgoblin]

ffs why can't they stop adding shit and just fix what problems there are atm,
or at best leave the game as it is, more unbalance just isn't gunna be fun

because without new shiny stuff people get bored and quit and because not everyone agrees on what the "problems" are and if they actually are problems.

 

[Elahim]

my first thought about this turned out to be very very negative...

 

[Palemos]

guess im glad im a warlock and cant be interuppted

 

[SvMontrey]

still ...no balance

 

[Iphis]

hehe give heals then i can spec moc III on NS 4tw

 

[liloe]

ehm wait up a second mates....

Tanks will not be able to get the determination thing, like assas will not be able to get evade buff. The simple reason?

You cannot go to your own base trainers to recieve the abilities, so a tank could get a DD, but not tank stuff.


This said, I will purchase disease and lifetap if it's possible......I mean what else do I need except speed? I have heals, I have roots, I have instas, I have ( when I get a SoD ) a pet that deals tons of damage and all I lack is something to get people off me without timer, so disease is awesome. I disease my enemies, I run away and DoT them. Don't even need to melee anymore.

And if I'm not too wrong, if someone intercepts a blow for you, you aren't interrupted ( so SM's can cast while being hit sometimes ), right? So with brittles up I can get that disease off pretty well.

Or those situations when an enemy is nearly dead and I'm at low health. So instead of using heals, I can heal up while finishing him off myself. Not much dmg I guess, but enough to be useful for me.

These are my thoughts on it and I simply love them =)

 

[-Freezingwiz-]

I'm going MoC 3 and max lifetap o my mincer xD hmm sorc in chain and with IP and stealth xD

 

[Hawkwind]

guess im glad im a warlock and cant be interuppted

You have no shame

 

[Spetsnaz]

anyway we should wait for more info about subclassing imo
and what and how we get those abilities, what allowed to whom etc

 

[Neffneff]

the idea of finally having a style on a battle druid is amusing me or even a style on a mage, for when MoC is down, and the interupts jsut get too much 0o...least with a mage staves = 100% dex..and i have plenty of that on my chanter.