Steveh Zerg

Chamie

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Well maybe Steveh wasnt on that big alb sticky zerg BUT he did add on the zerg tho
 

Miff

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Steveh im not sure who was stuck to who. But however you and your group did add every single fight we were in and another fg as well standing back assist nuking while your ma train was on us. When we get zerged we saw youre deathspam every single fight. I´m probably wrong saying you organize or plan anything of it, im just saying doing that turns a fun game booring.
 

Kreig

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Another thing, if your camping an MG basically what your saying is that you want to be found fair enough. But like Steveh says, suppose there are 3fgs of RvR grps in Emain the same time as your 1fg, camping an MG is hardly a good idea is it? I assume you didnt know there was 3fgs roaming, but camping is never a good idea tbh coinsidence could mean you get ganked by the same load of ppl from a port or they could of collectivly grped.

Who cares tbh. Shit happens, posting on these boards is like lighting the touch paper on bonfire night. Stand back and watch what happens if your unlucky it blows up in ur face and 9/10 posting on FH with any kind of greavance only ends up in a flame fest anyhow, as there isnt anything constuctive or interesting to post anymore as teh game is far to old for that so ppl just bitch and moan out of boredom when not playing.
 

Miff

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Actually kreig it was on our third attempt we decided to camp. First attempt = zerged wasnt at all ready to meet three fg , second attempt we thought lets see if they split up now and they didnt. So third attempt we thought hey we have 2x pbaoe lets try camp mmg and see if we can atleast kill some of em. After whiping on third attempt we just logged.
 

Miff

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Raisthlin said:
Gifv us the video where u were zerged by the 3+ fg albs! ;)

What is your problem its not a matter of its true or not , its why they did it. Why would i lie about such a thing , gains me nothing. Im done discussing now cause of people who stay off topic and dont believe me. Not gonna force anyone to believe me and if you are so mistrusting im not gonna bother anymore. And if you noticed Chamies comment, you also calling him a liar ? Since he was in my group as well ..
 

Raisthlin

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Miff said:
What is your problem its not a matter of its true or not , its why they did it. Why would i lie about such a thing , gains me nothing. Im done discussing now cause of people who stay off topic and dont believe me. Not gonna force anyone to believe me and if you are so mistrusting im not gonna bother anymore. And if you noticed Chamies comment, you also calling him a liar ? Since he was in my group as well ..

My problem is that i know that we werent with 3fg this night, week and month... ;)

I dont say u lie just maybe cant count corretly or something like that...
My advise is learn how to loose and dont search for stupid reasons :worthy:
 

Tareregion

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it is true that Steveh can be found in zergs now and then, but he can also be found with a single one and then puts up a decent fight :)
 

Kreig

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Kreig said:
When did this game become CS? SO what if he was running in 3fgs, the game is MMORPG its not 1fgvs1fgRvRRPG. Yea ppl like to compare skills vs other realms elite grps of equal calibur but just dont forget that its solely not a 1fg game, ive had some brilliant 1fg vs 1fg fights but equally ive had some brilliant zerg fights.
If u endlessly get zerged and dont want that kind of action try a different area, emain is the 1st place were a zerg will be biggest (generally).

At the end of the day we all pay subs if steveh gets his moneys worth/satisfaction from doing what he does then so be it, and if you dont get from the game what it isnt offering ie FG RvR dont moan about as it only has to offer what the opposition decides to field.

They won, you lost and you loged. Cant expect to win every fight, besides didnt hear were you tried alternative rvr zones :p I standby my quote.
 

Steveh

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Mael group got "zerged" just now.nice fight btw. you got one stealther add but nm.we win ..... hm
 

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its late, im sleepy, i couldnt be arsed to read the full 3 pages..

The reason many albs zerg is becouse most albion groups has ZERO, ( 0!) chance of beating a mid caster group as it is... i mean, when armsmen goes down faster than the cast speed on a decent heal, its not fair.. if you want everything to be fair, drop the high resists of shamans, drop debuffs, dont use insta mezz, dont use aoe stunn, dont use more than 1 SM pet, then we can talk fair....

(talking from a wizzy group's clerics pov)
 

Kjel

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Just think of it like this Mrmiff:
Without Steveh's *cough* fg *cough* we'd be denied a major source of rps. Go find some friends and commence the farmage, can usually get 5-6k a fight if you live long enough.
 

Tareregion

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just on Alliance chat:
<stealther> OMGGG
<stealther> 5fg Albs INC AMG E
<stealther> it's stevehs fg
<random funny person> relic raid!
 

RoxstarBD

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zerging is stoopid

Sure ppl can zerg if they like to, but come on, most people like smaller fights, becasue less laggy and you have time to actually play you character and not die before you even can press 1 button (which one ;).

I know mids and hibs sometimes zerg also but hey hey, I know which realm zergs the most and with biggest numbers. I know some people like to zerg but a discussion about it can maybe change the future. If not, it feels a bit better to have said what I think about it.

And stevehs fg is commonly known in mid as = zerg.

Not that many like to have bds in their groups but still I agree with the idea that 1fg vs 1fg is more fun than zerg vs zerg. And as I like to play bd I like smaller fights than 1fg v 1fg also.
 

Steveh

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now we got owned.nerf Zebolt 951 damage it is a nice crit or what ?
 

bigchief

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RoxstarBD said:
Sure ppl can zerg if they like to, but come on, most people like smaller fights, becasue less laggy and you have time to actually play you character and not die before you even can press 1 button (which one ;).

I know mids and hibs sometimes zerg also but hey hey, I know which realm zergs the most and with biggest numbers. I know some people like to zerg but a discussion about it can maybe change the future. If not, it feels a bit better to have said what I think about it.

And stevehs fg is commonly known in mid as = zerg.

Not that many like to have bds in their groups but still I agree with the idea that 1fg vs 1fg is more fun than zerg vs zerg. And as I like to play bd I like smaller fights than 1fg v 1fg also.
aye strafing and holding down insta dont work too well vs more than one target does it :rolleyes:
 

emma

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Who cares if you got zerged tbh Miff. State of alb/prydwen RvR at the moment you should be glad there were even alb groups to kill or get killed by.

Ohh and as for the why did Steveh do it ?

Why did Zebolt nuke me for 845 + 763 dmg ?

?

?

Wanna know why ?

Cos he can thats why.

Same applies to why albs zerg, because we can, no sorry. We "have" to.
 

RoxstarBD

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AOE lifetap what a good idea

bigchief said:
aye strafing and holding down insta dont work too well vs more than one target does it :rolleyes:

Thx bigchief, maybe bds can have AOE lifetap as a realmskill, so we can take on more than 1 target at a time.
 

AngeLujo

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tbh we love to zerg for the followin reasons:
-we lag like hell, even go ld sometimes (damn great fun, everyone should try it out)
-we get less rp from a whole fight than from a damn soloer who's killed by a fg
-we love to get whined at mostly

so now u guys know why we zerg, we are mazochists from the worst kind
:kissit:
 

Zharr

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Steveh's full group is a very nice group and good for some hard fights he hits like a truck. perhaps it was co-incident we got killed by 3 fg 3 times in a row. Steveh used to lead larger groups of albs to have fun togehter, but as time passed he started running a fg more often.
Today was maybe bad luck, being zerged 3 times in a row by the same fg's of albs was just a good reason to log.
 

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Steveh said:
and i agree with Sycho.i blame mg campers

I look at that differently. Besides from some strong QQ I always tell my group NOT to camp a MG because its very boring as druid.

But what other option does a SINGLE fullgroup have if you get reports of Alb-zerg (AKA Steveh-fg xD) running around in add-range? You FORCE the enemy into the Gatehouse-room; dont you see that?

Im happy to leave that room anytime unless I get like the 3+ fg on my arse; no thanks I rather go into the room then and go down with atleast some casualties on your side.

If you see a fg in a room why not instead of gathering a zerg just pass it and ignore em? They get bored and will leave em in the end.


About Hibs adding on other Hibs fighting: Yes I admit that happens, hell I even promote it. Its called *PAYBACK* for all the useless adding we encountered in a year of RvR where Albs dominated Emain and everyone always adding on us when we ran ickle fg as TDD in Emain.

However I cant stress this enough: Most Hibs guild-groups dont run within adding range of eachother. Atleast not on purpose which is what I see alot at the moment with Albs.
 

Sycho

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Puppet some hibs are already at milegates when i have been going to them...oh well.

I couldn't care less about the game anymore since all this arguing is silly.It's all spur of the moment heated whining that people admit they didn't mean later on.

Most of my posts are sarcastic and full of shit but people are used to that by now xD
 

behatch

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Miff said:
People who know me from the game or IRL know i dont usually whine much. So spare me the QQ comments and so on. Let me tell you my story now.

Today our guild group went out to run in Emain for about three hours we met barely any enemies which pretty much sucks. All of a sudden we saw steveh kill spam and thought hey fun , hopefully he doesnt bring zerg so we can have some fun fg vs fg fights. Seeing we were almost only mids in emain except the occasional soloers we were hoping for some fights.

Well stevehs reputation doesnt do him justice, its worse than i feared. I thought the guy just zerged for keeps or to kill mid or hib zerg back but oh man was I wrong. The guy constantly roamed with three fgs stuck to him or in five three seconds (!) add range. And it wasn´t just our bad luck it happened three to four times before we decided to log cause of unfair players. Feels pretty sad cause this was last time for a while I could play and was hoping for some fun and good movie clips to be recorded. Guess ill have to play a game where people have a sense of sportsmanship and isnt just out to win eazily. At least split up on occasion.

I mean why zerg when its nothing out ? If someone can please answer that question i take back this "whine".

And if you wanna flame me for beeing a whiner , go ahead. I think my whining is justified since it wrowened the night for my group and probably others as well.

you dont whine because your a mid,you have all the whine at me class's :m00:

why zerg when no one out? when someone does come out they will win :cheers:
 

Straef

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These 'ah i got zerged' threads r pathetic, specially comin from guilds always adding whenever they can -.-
 

Eva

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Alot of times I have seen hibs in room when there is less than a fg attacking then ( I think it was Neguras or what his name is that have done it alot of times, he even had a grave below mmg room which I guess he accidently jumped out of ). I can imagine it ain't being fun for a druid though, just setting up a pf and throwing spread heals. Much more fun in open combat :)
 

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Puppet said:
But what other option does a SINGLE fullgroup have if you get reports of Alb-zerg (AKA Steveh-fg xD) running around in add-range? You FORCE the enemy into the Gatehouse-room; dont you see that?

Could of tried HW or Odins, didnt even bother trying b4 he QQ'd. Shows the strength of the whine.

None existant.
 

Inca

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Wow its 3.20am and i read all that, can't u tell wot time of the month it is for my girlfriend :m00:

First of all ty to Steveh as i was in the fight with KN that he refferred to and although i am not as experienced as others (so don't watch names etc much) i think i know which one he is talking about and it went on for so long i thought my purge was gonna come back up. As for KN don't you worry mate we'll be back for you ;)

I think if you read through a lot of the flames you will realise a few things here. First of all no1 is questioning if Maelstrom got hit by 3fgs, 3 times. It happened... it happens to other guild groups and other random groups. I was in emain tonight and a couple of times we got trounced by 2-3fg's even with stealther adds. On the flip side on the coin we also got into a couple of fights and at least 1 mid group added (or 6-7 random solo/duo's) etc... and the albs got spanked as you can imagine. A lot of the time groups without ever realising it are quite close. Often they arrive on the same port and with top level speed/sprint although they might not be close 30 seconds can get you a huge distance and you can wind up in a fight. So the question is do you add? The way i see it is i am a mid, clearly the roleplaying aspect isn't the games strongest point but that dwarven healer is me. Hibs/Albs are enemies, and quite simply, are kill on sight. I never complain when people add into my fights be they friend or foe. I see every red name of an alb or hib as an enemy that has to be put down.

Part of this comes from the fact that until recently i have mainly done random rvr. When your doing random rvr you can often go out and even in fg vs fg fights, barely make 1k rps in 2 hours. So when you see the oppurtunity for rp's you get greedy and go for them. Part of it is also a simple kill or be killed thing, if i was a dwarf and some one of those naughty britons hitting a fellow dwarf i would spank him, cause the only good alb or hib, is a dead one :D

Maelstrom in all credit to them always turn down the chance to zerg, often even when it is to take down another zerg. When you random rvr'ing you don't always get that option as your ML0 guys, 2 of which are not yet 50 and 1 is afk downloading porn, your only hope is numbers. A lot of the top guild rvr, is primarily ML10 with 3-6 artifacts all at level 10, realm rank 6, 7, 8 even 9 and 10 and frankly a random group doesn't stand a chance. Maelstrom are an elite guild and it is credit to them albs feel the need to zerg to kill them, but in my opinion this is where mids suffer. Although i am not sure, according to the time of this post thats around about the time there were 3 other mid groups in emain, albeit 1 was perhaps a little hap hazard. It wouldn't have taken more than a few pm's or even in /as to organise 3 groups including the Maelstrom boys to go and fight (and naturally pwn) the albies.

Fg vs fg is a player thing, its not in the game mechanics, its not a rule or a code. Whether you add or not is personal choice... i think its easy for people in Maelstrom who will 90% of the time win most groups in fg vs fg rvr to complain about adds, but a mid random group who have only found 1 seer, or a alb/hib equivilant... what are they meant to do? lie down and die? giving their enemies more rps? No they respond in the best way they can and fight back and if that means numbers then so be it. The difference between an ML10 fully TOA'd (with practically no limits as to equipment/arti's/drops) realm rank 6+ character compared to an ML0 half SC'd with a few TOA rogs at rr2, is tremendous, so the term "fair" i heard chucked around a lot, is neither apparent nor for that matter relevant.

While i believe in everything i say above and do think that players sometimes "zerg" (at least travel with more than 8 players) out of nessecity, i also believe that mids are probably the worst zergers (not saying they do it the least, but when they do zerg its often badly). However Steveh is not exactly the low rr, low ml, struggling for gear/cash kinda guy ;) and nor are his group. I think the "pride" is what miff and other mids brought into question and what the albies here are defending. If any1 flamed a post about me zerging to destroy groups, i would stand up and bow, cause i stand by what i said that to me a flicker of a red name in rvr is a viable target no matter what. People like Miff and others will try and honour their beliefs of rvr should primarily be fg vs fg... the real question i guess is, how does Steveh feel about this?

I am not trying to upset any1 by posting here but i do dislike being told that what somebody else's view of rvr is, mine should match.
 

atos

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Steveh said:
meet you there
tbh I don't even know what realmrank you would be without leechign on your zerg. One imagine a RR9 player should have learned the game far better.

I fail to understand your idea of fun when you attack with the odds 8-24. Are you in anyway related to the US servers? You surely think and act as one of them.

Stop ruining my soloing! Fook off.
 

remi

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was out 2hours , got added by steveh fg like 5/6 fights. dont try defend it steveh...
 

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