Stealthers in pairs

[daphatfriar]

Do all you stealthers hang around in twos or what?

IMHO the point of assasin classes to operate solo as that is the satisfaction of the kill?...

Morrissey is always solo my stealth is only 14 and I *want* to be found by lone stealthers so I can have a nice 1v1 with u guys and a get a nice test of skill/spec/abilities etc.

I'll always run off if there are 2 of you yes and I would expect you to do the same when facing 2 Albs on your own.

Are minstrels genuinely tougher 1v1 than assasin classes?
Is that why you guys won't take me on 1v1?
Or do you pheer me? (doubt it lol)

Had a nice 1v1 with an Elf Ranger (apologies I forget your name) it was damn close fight which I only just won but was damn good fun

 

[Xandax]

Actually stealthers pairing up is a very nice tactic and I can see no reason for them not to do it.
The satisfaction of the kill - as you put it - can be just as great knowing you used tactics to take down your opponent.

Tactics is imo what is lacking in this game.

 

[TheDardre's]

Grrrr

Only time i seem to run into stealthers is when im injured and heading back to keep to rest. With 50% or less hitpoints and being a caster thats about half a hit off you sneaky gits

Being a caster surely we should get a buff to see invisible

 

[daphatfriar]

Err yeah but 2 incompetents can take down a skilled player...you're just kidding yerself m8...

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

its a legit tactic

and every realm uses it, but i must say (and this is a genuine and honest view from a constant bg player) that alb stealtehrs work in pairs (or 3s/4s) more than other realms, i dont know if this is because the infil spec does not blossom till higher levels.

my shadow zerker must have had close on 50 1 on 1s with enemy stealthers (when he could find them alone) and lost 2 (i got the names too, but i wont massage your egoes. pulverising the others often with about 80% health left.

so its partly strength in numbers and partyl i think cos SBs edge the other assassins at around levels 24.

on a related (vaguely) note.
current infiltrators on BG1 at the moment, my berserker Sammie has 700+ hp, stop trying to PA me, it doesnt work, even with a succesful PA, you will die before i lose 50% health.

actually, dont stop, please, i love killing you.

 

[Xandax]

Originally posted by daphatfriar
Err yeah but 2 incompetents can take down a skilled player...you're just kidding yerself m8...

And?
1 "incompetent" player can take down one skilled anyway.
Heck a skilled player can die by falling of keeps.

 

[tris-]

never been in a pair, its usualy 3 or 4 workin together when i have been in thid (all of 2 nights)

 

[daphatfriar]

Have a look round Emain and see how many stealthers work in pairs? Not very many I'd say....

 

[Khalen]

Simple tactic against tank classes is by using backstab 2 this way they can't move for 1 move and you have done over 50% damage most of the times. Buffs help a lot too..

 

[Silver180]

Re: its a legit tactic

Originally posted by old.Krogar_Thane


on a related (vaguely) note.
current infiltrators on BG1 at the moment, my berserker Sammie has 700+ hp, stop trying to PA me, it doesnt work, even with a succesful PA, you will die before i lose 50% health.

actually, dont stop, please, i love killing you.

LOL i completely disagree with you there and i seem to rember i have killed your zerker solo with my lowly inf, with you zerking aswell,a tank is easy if you get it right. PA with snare then switch to poison run of restealth and hit with another pa. Surely you rember my inf ghast doing this to you? am yet to kill that little tank kobold Misha 1v1 but i cam close today where a run to a healer just saved him in the nick of time befroe poison finished the job.

I have trouble with SB tho as i cant sem to manouver quick enough and they hit so hard with there pa


Ghastlie the Zerk slayer

 

[BlitheringIdiot]

If im right zerkers have less hp or something when they are in hamster mode. So you PA'd him at the best possible time, but yeah, im pretty sure it is possible for a wel specced assasin to take down even the ugliest of dwarf zerkers...

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

dont honestly remember

dopnt remember ever being beaten one on one by an infiltrator when i had full hp mate. but if u say so, i guess its true.

remember 3 shot killing u tonight tho.

certainly dont remember being kited, and since i have 700+ hp, in bear or dwarf form, i stand by the fact that i can beat any inf 1 on 1 on bg, i just hit too hard, too quick (2.4dps).

ask arespowa the armsman, 2 duels, 2 wins for me, and dont tell me ur little gauche is gonna score more than his polearm.

anyway, im sure it can be done, just very doubtful i can lose to an infiltrator one on one, when i havent just come off the back of a big bridge fight.

/flex
/salute

another thing which makes me dubious of your wondrous claims, is that i have rarely seen an infiltrator operate solo anyway.

hows that for a flame

seriously tho, im sure it can and has been done, i just dont remember.

Sammie - finest hour - cabalist + infiltrators on mid road - solo

 

[Veluden]

Got to agree serkers completely own infiltrators in the BG. Ripped apart a few tonight with my own, Redigor.

One of the first things that happened to me when I first came Thid with my serker, was being ambushed by 3 infils vs myself. I killed 2 and got the 3rd down to 10%.

The only time a infiltrator has killed me is if I'm low on health somehow.

The only thing I fear in battlegrounds are scouts, they hit me for loads of dmg.

 

[Danya]

I reckon I could take you out sammie... should be able to get 5 nukes off, 5 nukes = 750+ damage.
BTW bear form does nothing to HP, just stops you evading or parrying.

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

you can get 5 nukes off before i catch you?

if the answer is yes, then you win

if the answer is no, then i win

and bear in mind there are alot of factors to come to that yes/no, i would say, if im solo, in the middle of a big field, with clear terrain for 100 miles in every direction, and im asleep, and sammie has recently come off the back of a nasty bout of dwarven flu, then yes dannyn, yes you can take me.

if Trulla, my personal skald taxi, is delivering the dwarven missile that i am, to his destination, like a laser guided bomb, then no, you cant beat me.

but those are the variables that make this game fun.

anyway, salute to all my enemies! you are all skilful and worthy(of death).



Sammie has headed towards cap at mach 10, i must make efforts to level my new BG delete, and FAST!

 

[Danya]

Yes I can get 5 nukes. The only way I don't is if you jump me and can kill me before I can qc mez you.
If you have speed, I nearsight at 2300 range to break it, then stun at 1500 range, nuke 4 times, then mez, run to longer range and can get 3-4 more nukes before you catch me.
Without speed I'd forgo the nearsight and just stun/nuke at 1500 range then mez if you got too close.

 

[Khalen]

And also pay attention that not all people in BG are fully equiped people some are starters also who have to do most of the times with the drops.. and not super crafted stuff.

 

[Danya]

i'm using exclusively dropped equipement, not even DF stuff.

 

[old.Xanthian]

Originally posted by Dannyn
i'm using exclusively dropped equipement, not even DF stuff.

Farmed by yours truely

 

[sorusi]

Zerkers are easy BS2 + Tight Cut combo, and the snare + dot should have landed, if so he got 160 hps less from the dot then if you want you can just move out of range from him and either stealth and PA + -55con debuff him (since i got 20+2 envenom) and hes basicly dead. OR melee him to death with another dot?..

No fair fight with the snare?`oh if so i hate fair fights

Zerkers are the only char i wont go up melee with in thidranki.. if i could meet an merc i wouldnt with them.. they HURT aswell

Want to duel Krogar_Thane?

If you do sit your dead

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

the name is Sammie

Sammie Davis Jr!



you will recognise me as the white bearded, eyepatch wearing dwarf bad ass berserker who wears no helm (i have a crown head item).

any time you want to duel mate, just beckon and point, and we will go and find a quiet spot.

you have answered your own question, because you say

---"Zerkers are easy"------

followed by

---"Zerkers are the only char i wont go up melee with in thidranki"---

finally you say

---"Want to duel Krogar_Thane?"---

my answer is, yes mate, bring it on, and prepare to last 3 x 2.4 swing time, thats without zerk mode. 5 seconds if we use all abilities, and since you will assume be wanting to use your poisons and stealth, ill be drawing on the rage of Modi, god of zerkers.

i wont say i will 100%, but i will wager a nice fat pint of dwarf ale on the outcome. you just dont got the HP to survive my damage output senor. even the 160 DOT and the 55 con your talking about, leaves me i should imagine, with more than your starting HP. then its my dual swinging crit every time double axes, vs your pin pricking lil cute swords.

be sure and beckon to me mr big man, and mr little dwarf will be happy to oblige you, i advise you bring a spare bg medallion.where shall i mail the the pieces of you that are left?

 

[Danya]

Been brushing up my tank killing skills last night...
Saw a yellow con highlander in plate swimming, he didn't see me... Suddenly Mr. Highlander comes to an abrupt halt with sparkling white lights around his head. Then he would have seen...
You are hit for 232 damage!
You are hit for 164 damage!
You are hit for 164 damage!
You were just killed by Danyan!
After the second nuke he managed to spot me and got about 1-2 steps before my final nuke finished him off.
So bring it on Sammie!

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

he got caught swimming

bad luck for him, bring it on tree lover

 

[old.Trulla]

Hehe.. about stealthers in pairs.. my friend from us server told me someone has landed a truesight in emain.. just to see 3 fg of infs coming at him to gank him.. lol.. talk about a death squad

 

[Danya]

Re: he got caught swimming

Originally posted by old.Krogar_Thane
bad luck for him, bring it on tree lover

Actually he made it ashore before I got my stun on him.
So death to the Beardy Wives!!

 

[sorusi]

Krogar ill beckon you when i see you, pre gl hf m8

 

[xyza]

I do not see how Sammie would stand a chance vs some hibbie caster, if the caster would spot sammie first that would be.

I've been target by spells many times myself, and I often just think "What is going on? Ahh I'm dying", or something like that. Then I get an other nuke at me, now I understand what's going on, and I start looking around...maybe I see the caster before next nuke lands on me. Anyhow, I might start rushing at him....damn stunned... nuke nuke, still a 1300+ range to rush at, nuke nuke nuke. If I would get up to caster now, he would be smart enough to mez and then run away to get on distance and put in the last nuke.

But, my point of view on all 1on1 discussions wether or not a class would winner over an other is:

It is all about the friggin circumstances!
Sure, one class might kick an others more often the the other kicks his, so any class could be able to take any other. Except for maybe the healer.

Nothing bad about the healer...team with anything and it's a deadly team. Me (healer) heska (lvl 22 Shammy) took down 1 minstrel and 1 scout easily, can't say I would be able to pull it off again, but it only shows what a healer can do ^^.

 

[old.Krogar_Thane]

this boasting that...

1 class beats another is pointless



but oh so much fun!



and yes XYZ you are correct, its circumstances, if caster sees Sammie early, hes dead, if not, he dies. simple really.

but thats all history now as Sammie has capped, but Harry is almost BG ready!

woohoo!

now IM the caster!