state of rvr

[old.Tzeentch]

Originally posted by swords
aww im sorry Nol you can have your +1 on the house

Adapt or die.

AKA bring a bigger Zerg?

You do realise this only facilitates the problem of excessive whines, frustration and for me lack of fun?

Did you even read the post? or did you just quote it?

its not a question of adapt or die, its sacrafice enjoyment for rps.
Fuck rps i just want to go out for a few hours with my friends and work together against an equal sized enemy force.
There are other people who want to do this im sure, i can only hope as was said earlier they adress this in the rvr expantion.

Does it have to be emain?

I've organised FG's from other realms to come and roam in sauvage or pennine, for the different terrain and the non-zerg effect.

You all just rvr in sauv or pennine as FGs.

I'm sure there is many guilds that would be up for it, mine included.

That's adapt, isn't it?

Please dont be so quick to assume everything is a flame or put down.

 

[swords]

we run in odins.
i dont touch emain with a barge pole.
sometimes we go to HW and i certainly would enjoy fighting people there as the aquaduct at least adds somethign of a small obstacle to be used by the crafty caster or healer.

Sometimes we go to HW when there are reports of activity there and yes those fights are fun, but i havent had one there in weeks.

my main gripe is the spate of Hib and Mid Zergs in Odins who end up camping the pk, same with albs camping the hpk preventing any fgs from coming out to roam and forcing the hibs to come out in more than a Fg anyway.

 

[old.Tzeentch]

get an fg together, a time, and i'll try to get an fg of my guild, and maybe we can invite a mid guild, and lets hit up sauvage for an evening.

if it's cool, we can maybe try increasing the number of groups, 2 per realm, but all running solo FGs.. cg/tells etc of course cant be stopped so they'll be allowed if it's a 2fg thing

could rock ;p

 

[Danya]

Everytime hibs or mids go to sauvage the albs bring out 5fg and zerg them, then all port off to emain. :/

 

[old.Tzeentch]

i'll kick their asses, np.

edit: actually i love it when alb zerg comes out of sauv lol, those fights are great... rolling off the hillsides etc, dropping los and stuff, kinda cool

 

[swords]

yes theres a paranoia about someone taking our only relic off us at the moment.
could setup an irc thang as im sure HW just has the whole ''nobody ever goes there so i woulnt either'' trouble.

if people were to see HW is active it could at least become what Odins used to be a while back.
(oh, on the subject all parties concerned must agree not to gank talivar if he's soloing in HW. He gets pretty miffed at that kind of thing and i dont blame him tbh )

 

[old.Tzeentch]

nah HW is crap :/ it's easily learned..

pennine and sauv are great ;p

 

[AbPoon]

Originally posted by swords
I leveled the hard way

Its not about FG anymore its about Zergs

I cant run in Emain all day in a set fotm grp like JH

Poons a nob

Tzee's a nob

Just cause your high rr dont mean you know or have done anything

Only Talivar has skill because he's normally solo in Odin's

Thats basicly the summery of your post so i'll enlighten you on a few points.

You say its not about teamwork anymore its about numbers, you then say you cant get rp's because your not in a FOTM grp, Make your mind up either numbers win or FOTM groups win.

JH is about the classes that form the group and also about how well you play your own class and how well you work with your own group m8's, We have it more easy then the other realms due to the state of the game but thats not my fault in any way shape or form, why us and NP are the most successful guilds on mid is because we play with the same people when we group, we all know how each other reacts and plays. we use voice comms to speed things up and we are lucky to have great support players (Some of the best healers and without doubt the best shammy on Excal Ouroborus)

About you spending all day in Emain, neither do we guild group forms from 5-6 pm weekdays due to most people being at Uni or in my case being at work, weekends we'll hammer out some good rvr time.

You leveled the hard way? gratz my 50 took /30 days played+ so your not the only one.

Well i havent just done RVR as for most of my time i wasnt really in an RVr only guild, I first came to Excal after moving from the US servers due to time zone difference, i joined a small guild called death from below (Haha i know) with some peeps i met, after then i joined Aesirs Blade one of the oldest guilds on the server, after some months i was promoted to an officer.

Some months after then Killgorde (A good friend) left the game and the main alliance in the realm started to buckle without his leadership, meeting was called to see who could sort it and i was the only one willing, i formed an alliance to replace CE's crumbling alliance and managed to make it an effective defending force for Mid, got voted in as Guildmaster in Aesirs and brought that to its RVR peak with many active players, in the mean time i managed the Alliance pretty much solo as most people in this game are too lazy to do anything themselves (Tho thanks go out to Bazza whoodoo Vrek and Rauthian [I know most dont like him but he did a huge amount for alot of peoples good] ) led DF raids TG raids Relic raids relic defence, was the link between the AB alliance and FOM and NP (At the time) Alliances.

Got pissed at having to do so much work for people who were so unwilling to do it for themselves so i left for EVE, AB alliance crumbled as no-one left to do the work and formed some half arsed Alliance thats perminantly spammed, Felt the draw back to DAOC from EVE so sold up came back, Guild was in a shit state and couldnt recruit due to having no solid base left so me Rulke and Vodor starting grouping with Jack Herer (Very new at the time) and decided to join them.

So no i've done more then RVR and it's the only thing that Narks me off when people make that assumption.

Yeah i am prolly a nob

Yep so's tzee in your eyes but not all

Talivar is a skilled player yes but not for the reasons you stated

To summ up, you can make your statements but think out your argument 1st, dont scupper your own argument by your own words, dont assume just because a player rvr's alot that he/she hasnt done anything else.

Oh and you owe me 5 minutes of my life for having to write this post to try and set you right.

As for not having your respect well, the respect of my guild m8's and friends is all that matters to me.

 

[Arnor]

Originally posted by AbPoon
RR doesnt show skill, rr shows time and if you havent put in the time how can you make such a judgement.

not really tbh


how much played has mumin/sushii now? is it over 15days? oO and they are what rr8/9?

I dinged rr6 on arnor with 50days played, im guessing you are at about the same poon, but those new guys that made the guild, those guys noone heard about before JH, how much TIME have they spent in rvr with their class and group?


it used to be rr=time spent, now its rr=how fotm your group is.

 

[AbPoon]

Originally posted by Arnor
not really tbh


how much played has mumin/sushii now? is it over 15days? oO and they are what rr8/9?

I dinged rr6 on arnor with 50days played, im guessing you are at about the same poon, but those new guys that made the guild, those guys noone heard about before JH, how much TIME have they spent in rvr with their class and group?


it used to be rr=time spent, now its rr=how fotm your group is.

All of the Savages have have high RR alts, if i remember right if you add the rp's of all Locuz's toons he'd be rr11 :E

And i think all have played from release more or less

 

[gwal]

move as FG, and u´ll get FG fighting, lots of em out there - we certainly have our share of FG fights, even in a crammed emain.

most of those who dont belive it has the habit of turning to the zerg way after getting steamrolled once or twice, and cba to try and FG fight no more.

thats from the alb side btw, cant state how it is from the other realms.

 

[ormagaa]

Originally posted by swords
I used to respec you Poon for not giving up playing your Zerker but it seems you are just as bad as those who rerolled Savage.

He's still playing the zerker fyi

 

[swords]

Ormagaa use your eyes.

We do move as FG. (sometimes the enemy does too. lately the enemy does not)

We do not go to Emain unless we have been stuck at the APK in Odins blocked by a Hib or Mid gathering for an hour and a half and were all pretty miffed.

If we are in Emain its either to A) get replacement members if some guildies have to log or B) to go to the Gorge.

technically i am in a FOTM group, its a pretty standard Albion merc assist group and in this day and age its necisary but not all that bad.

Im not annoyed about out FOTM'd and beaten by a higher RR group than us, stands to reason thats going to happen.

its when you get beaten by a high RR FOTM group who are running with another high RR fotm group and a third tag along group and you get mauled every time you leave the Odins pk and run past the AMG. You then port back several times only to get killed by the same bunch of twats.
We then try and go to the Gorge but getting past the AMG in Emain isnt the easiest thing in the world to do.

if we do get to the Gorge its either empty, or we meet 2FG+ heading to Emain.

and of course activity in the Albion frontier is wild and unpredicatble.

Tzee is right about using the other zone more and i would like to do this.

My opinion of you isnt that you are a RR9 Zerker in a very successful Mid GG. its that you are an arrogant dick who probably assumes im just jealous that i cant wtf own like you

as for the narking you off with the RvR comment, if you post a reply that basically states blah blah blah cry more noob, you suck quit bitching etc then im going to assume you are in that particular group of individuals who only think about their rp quota.

and 5 mins? lol cheered me up

 

[ormagaa]

Ok i get your point.

But it was like ages ago i met a good albiongroup, RAs up, and using them like they should do.

Looking forward of meeting our group

 

[elahim]

/salute Daemyr and Talivar for standing up in this matter.

/laugh at Poon and the gang, you have all been here to long.

 

[Carlos Bananos]

QQ

 

[AbPoon]

Originally posted by Carlos Bananos
QQ

 

[schinkaar]

Originally posted by swords
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My opinion of you isnt that you are a RR9 Zerker in a very successful Mid GG. its that you are an arrogant dick who probably assumes im just jealous that i cant wtf own like you

Poon in a nutshell.

But considering some random alb zergling whining about zergs im not surprised he and most other ppl flame you.

And regarding JH:s playtime i think i had 14d at rr7 doesnt matter if i had a 100 tho, it still take the same amount of ppl for your grp to kill. What JH:s playtime does say is that they prolly dont loose much. Tbh my RP/h wasnt much lower in SotH (pbae grp) than in JH, maybe whould be at 16d played if i had ran pbae.

All people get zerged, albs prolly to a lesser extent during primetime than others. Maybe try telling ppl not to be in a CG and not do sends with ppl? If albs cut their zerg and JH+NP left im sure there whould be alot more FG vs FG.

 

[sethnaket]

Originally posted by swords
As for skill...the only person who has posted here with any real skill is Talivar for going out solo in Odins.

Excuse me, i agree that talivar is skilled and all. But cause he soloes odin's? I solo in emain (between mmg-mtk of course) does that make me skilled to?

edit: and you really dont think JH is playing as a team? wonder where all teh other "fotm" groups are in the top20 etc. I only saw JH/NP at the top :/

 

[old.Lethul]

last post was from me

 

[swords]

Ok Ok, im not complaingin about FOTM groups as such, i dont mind JH tbh you move in a well organised Fg and you play well.
Its the arrogance from certain individuals and the ''oh only 3L6? come back when you are RR8 and i might listen to what you have to say'' type i dislike.

My main gripe is the fact that of late, Odins has become more Emain like (ie, instead of being a Fg arena with the occasional Add group, people are moving in 3FG odd and trying to stay a FG and rvr there is a nightmare when people do this)

Talivar is skilled because...well he is if you've seen him play. what i didnt say and to clear it up i should is that i respect him for going into Odins solo, it must be very frustrating to be trounced by roaming FG's every time you pass the HMG hour after hour.
This is in part what im getting at, but instead of solo im in FG, and instead of a roaming Fg its 3FG+ trouncing us.

hopefully when a few more of the BoB gang are RR5 we'll have a decent set or RA's to use, at the moment a Fg fight is very challenging as we lack some of the more valuable RA's ( i only have mcl 1 BOF and purge) but as we have shown on our good days its not just about RA's because RA's arent always up