sorc temp and spec ?

Starambo

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im needing help on my sorc im roling and asking the readers of fh is all i could think of . Q.wot speck shall i go as a grp rvr sorc.
Q2.also a very important part of this char will be its template and if u guys/girls could giff me some hints,tips and wot to use in my temp it would be greatly apprechiated.
looking forward to ur replys thx in advance :D
 

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I think sorcs go with 40 body, 36 mind or 40 mind, 36 body, if I remember correctly anyhow.

As for caster templates, they are almost all the same, just browse around the latest threads, look for the SCed pieces and change the skills on the SC to reflect your spec. That way Graendel wont have to repost that caster template again and again all day long. ;)
 

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For a sorc - casting time, dex and spell range are really important tbh. And not getting noticed, so if you can fit in an arti that will change you into something small then go for it :D Also to be a good sorc nowadays you need stlong mezz with the new det system coming up so go 44 or 46mind rest body ( i think ). Also, duration is a must aswell :)
 

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Another sorc! :clap:

Make sure you go fotm inconnu as well!
 

Starambo

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sorry already a saracen:p, as for the other 2 replys thx guys evrything helps keep postin lol
 

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Deepflame said:
That way Graendel wont have to repost that caster template again and again all day long. ;)

Cheers. I'll get it macroed just in case.
 

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39 Body, 37 Mind.

Yellow AoE mezz/root/str&con-debuff/dex&quick-debuff/heat-cold-matter-debuff/group crack for the win. You still got bolt range mezz, just the radius is not 400, but 350.

With MoF2-3 you're a winner and don't lose your mana on lifetaps like a gimp when you are 44-46 Mind.

I was 46 Mind before, and I never go back to 44/46.
 

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Well if you ever wanna just try soloing go 40b 36m or 39b 37m (group crack). Your power use is insane without focus, im not respeccing to 44mind before i reach rr9 to get focus. And ohh nooo the new DET system, it dosnt matter, they are not gonna be messed anyway, half of them got charge up, and the 75% ressist isnt gonna make much diffrent, its like 10 or 15 sec mess.

For temp get 10% range, 10% pirce, 10% speed, 9% dmg, im not a fan of duration, its gonna trash your template if you want the other bonuses and still want 24-26 dex/int cap. And dont do as all the newbie temps, please cap hits before ANY ressist.
Get the usual artis like GoV, Tart, CS, Scalers, Erinyes (hard, but the best after croc nerf imo, croc sucks, it shows your a caster right away), maybe Croc Tear ring, but gonna be hard to cap stats/ressist then, Ceremonial Bracer, and ofc Jacina's Sash, its imo the best arti in the game. Your welcome go give me a pm if you wanna know what to fit in between all those artis :), as im proborly gonna forget this tread in about 2 mins.
 

Jai13

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ok guys thanks for the specs i have a pretty good idea wot to go.Now for the items ,gimmie some clues (i dont wont gov so count that out) no matter how hard it is to get or how expensive i need a good temp and i countin on u guys :p
 

Starambo

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Jai13 said:
ok guys thanks for the specs i have a pretty good idea what to go. Now for the items ,gimmie some clues (i dont wont gov so count that out) no matter how hard it is to get or how expensive i need a good temp and i countin on u guys :p :worthy:

Oops logged on my mates account by accident, This was meant to be posted by Starambo.
 

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Do i get this right, you want the best posible template, but DONT want GoV? That makes NO sense at all. GoV is the best, it just is, then Nailahs comes, but its not as good. And looking at hard templates GoV is a walk in the park, eg look at the ml8 Talos cloth sleves, its like 10% drop, freaking godly stats and 50 to roll for them everytime, now thats hard to get. And you ask for items, i just posted like 10 items... oO
 

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This it the template I use.. I took At, because I can solo that, if you have erinys go for that.. but! the croc shape is quite nifty aswell..

Config Report

Stats

Str: 0 Int: 108 Hits: 200
Con: 75 Pie: 0 Power: 0
Dex: 100 Cha: 0
Qui: 0 Emp: 0

Resists

Body: 25 Energy: 17 Crush: 21
Cold: 23 Matter: 15 Thrust: 23 (3)
Heat: 24 (5) Spirit: 10 Slash: 24 (2)

Skills

6 Matter Magic

6 Mind Magic

11 Body Magic

Focus

50 Mind Focus

50 Body Focus

50 Matter Focus

Cap Increases

25 Dex

25 Int

40 Hits

13 Power

Other Bonuses

6 Spell Duration Bonus

11 Buff Bonus

9 Spell Range Bonus

9 Spell Damage Bonus

10 Casting Speed Bonus

18 AF Bonus

27 Power Percentage Bonus

Piece Listing

Chest
Name: Guard of Valor
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Acuity
Effect 2: 40 Hits
Effect 3: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 15 Dexterity
Effect 6: 4 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 7: 4 Spell Damage Bonus
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 32.00

Arms
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 19 Constitution - 99 faceted Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 9 Body Resist - 99 polished Dusty Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Cold Resist - 99 polished Icy Shielding
Gem 4: 19 Dexterity - 99 faceted Vapor Essence
Utility: 61.33

Head
Imbue Points: 37.5 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 5 Cold Resist - 99 flawed Icy Shielding
Gem 3: 5 Heat Resist - 99 flawed Heated Shielding
Gem 4: 5 Body Magic - 99 imperfect Heated Evocation Sigil
Utility: 63.67

Legs
Imbue Points: 37.0 of 32 (100 Qual) Overcharge: 38%
Gem 1: 28 Constitution - 99 perfect Earthen Essence
Gem 2: 9 Energy Resist - 99 polished Light Shielding
Gem 3: 9 Matter Resist - 99 polished Earthen Shielding
Gem 4: 3 Cold Resist - 99 rough Icy Shielding
Utility: 60.67

Hands
Name: Maddening Scalars
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Dexterity
Effect 2: 15 Acuity
Effect 3: 6 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 4: 3 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 7: 40 Hits
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 30.00

Feet
Name: Soot Stained Boots
Level: 51 Quality: 94
AF: Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Intelligence
Effect 2: 18 Dexterity
Effect 3: 5 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 4: 7 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 6 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 24.00

Right Hand
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Left Hand
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Two Handed
Name: Tartoras Gift
Level: 51 Quality: 94
DPS: Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Intelligence
Effect 2: 50 All Focus Bonus
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 3 All Magic Skill Bonus
Effect 5: 6 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 6: 5 Spell Damage Bonus
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 66.00

Ranged
Imbue Points: 0.0 of 10 (94 Qual) Overcharge: None
Gem 1: Empty -
Gem 2: Empty -
Gem 3: Empty -
Gem 4: Empty -
Utility: 0.00

Neck
Name: Ancient Copper Necklace
Level: 50 Quality: 100
Bonus: 35
Effect 1: 10 Spirit Resist
Effect 2: 10 Body Resist
Effect 3: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: 10 Crush Resist
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 80.00

Cloak
Name: Cloudsong
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 5 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 2: 12 Acuity
Effect 3: 5 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 4: 5 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 5: 5 Buff Bonus
Effect 6: 8 AF Bonus
Effect 7: 8 Power Cap Increase
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 8.00

Jewel
Name: Tablet of atlantis
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Acuity
Effect 2: 3 All Magic Skill Bonus
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 65.00

Belt
Name: Jacina's Sash
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Buff Bonus
Effect 2: 6 Spell Duration Bonus
Effect 3: 5 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 4: 5 Power Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 0.00

Right Ring
Name: Immolated Ring
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Acuity
Effect 2: 15 Dexterity
Effect 3: 8 Heat Resist
Effect 4: 8 Energy Resist
Effect 5: 4 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 6: 4 Acuity Cap Increase
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 52.00

Left Ring
Name: Ring of the Torrent
Level: 51 Quality: 100
Bonus:
Effect 1: 11 Crush Resist
Effect 2: 10 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 10 Thrust Resist
Effect 4: Empty
Effect 5: 2 Casting Speed Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 62.00

Right Wrist
Name: Ebon Hide Bracer
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 2: 6 Cold Resist
Effect 3: 6 Matter Resist
Effect 4: 6 Body Resist
Effect 5: 6 Heat Resist
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 60.00

Left Wrist
Name: Ceremonial Bracer (dex)
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 18 Dexterity
Effect 2: 6 Slash Resist
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 5 Dexterity Cap Increase
Effect 5: 40 Hits Cap Increase
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 34.00
 

Ironfalcon

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thats the easy part.. getting a sash/immo ring is more difficult tbh.. :)
 

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Ironfalcon said:
Two Handed
Jewel
Name: Tablet of atlantis
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 15 Acuity
Effect 2: 3 All Magic Skill Bonus
Effect 3: 40 Hits
Effect 4: 10 AF Bonus
Effect 5: Empty
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 65.00

Belt
Name: Jacina's Sash
Level: 51 Quality:
Bonus:
Effect 1: 6 Buff Bonus
Effect 2: 6 Spell Duration Bonus
Effect 3: 5 Power Percentage Bonus
Effect 4: 5 Power Cap Increase
Effect 5: 5 Spell Range Bonus
Effect 6: Empty
Effect 7: Empty
Effect 8: Empty
Effect 9: Empty
Effect 10: Empty
Utility: 0.00
Both these items got 5% RP, you forgot that... oO :m00:
And having 40 hits cap, but not capping it... AlWAYS CAP HITS
 

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Manisch Depressiv said:
39 Body, 37 Mind.

spec for lowbies + useless when det gets boosted again


Manisch Depressiv said:
With MoF2-3 you're a winner and don't lose your mana on lifetaps like a gimp when you are 44-46 Mind.

i dont see how mof2 makes u a winner ;O
maybe decent template will make u not to lose ur mana on litetaps
cause the last time i check i was hitting quite hard + with not many resists on target

Manisch Depressiv said:
I was 46 Mind before, and I never go back to 44/46.


46 mind ? thats random spec 2k6


44 31 all the way
 

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44 31 is my current spec, tho really you shouldn't use it untill your RR9+


might again be the best spec when Det is boosted.
 

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MoFocus is useless for level 50 lifetap, im guessing Manisch is referring to a lower tier AE-mezz - where he needs MoFocus to compensate for the lower level spell.

With Determination-changes u can argue both ways ---> Mezz becomes less important so i spec for lower level mezz. Others argue that with determination-changes u need the top mezz to get atleast the max out of it.
 

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Wazkyr said:
Both these items got 5% RP, you forgot that... oO
And having 40 hits cap, but not capping it... AlWAYS CAP HITS

not really.. just that the sc calc I use, dont know what this is... :) and well.. if I cap hits, I would have to remove some ressist.. and that would gimp em very!

Vladamir said:

well partial solo it.. as vlad said, I would need a tether aye.. :) but I have friends! :D
 

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Currently rr5 spec'd 39b/37m although may push for 44m if a) i decide i want to play sorc post cluster as opposed to merc and b) it's actually necessary.
 

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Can any elite person try and fit in like 15 - 20 duration ? Loss in like matter, energy, body and melee resists is ok. dont have to overcap everything. And high hp / con bonuses too would be nice.

Then i can stick with the blue mez, and hopefully if we get two or three power relics we can go with 10 or 20 % extra mez time / nuke dmg etc etc.
 

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fettoken said:
Can any elite person try and fit in like 15 - 20 duration ? Loss in like matter, energy, body and melee resists is ok. dont have to overcap everything. And high hp / con bonuses too would be nice.

Then i can stick with the blue mez, and hopefully if we get two or three power relics we can go with 10 or 20 % extra mez time / nuke dmg etc etc.

hehe afraid thats not going to happen
 

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Bubble said:
hehe afraid thats not going to happen

Why not? Be a little optimistic now xD Might be a úber rog that give shitload of duration or somethin.
Btw, i asked a elite person, cough cough
 

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Btw. Albs got every single relic on excalibur atm, as they had for quiet some time.
 

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fettoken said:
Why not? Be a little optimistic now xD Might be a úber rog that give shitload of duration or somethin.
Btw, i asked a elite person, cough cough


not sure, but i think he meant the relix :p

anyway, I'm not an elite person either :( but i was 44/31 since I soloed my sorc to 50 (xping with mind sorc roxor!!) but after rr9 it got a nice boost as u know, cause body reached lvl 50 so my dmg became more optimal etc etc. I think in every grp the mind sorc should use this spec , tho i rarely played in grp not with 2 sorcs so I cant comment the half body-mind spec with yellow mez or something, but as some said before after det boost (not as lower rr tanks will buy high lvl det.. ^^ imo only after rr8-9) red mezz will be necessary or such ^^
 

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fettoken said:
Why not? Be a little optimistic now xD Might be a úber rog that give shitload of duration or somethin.
Btw, i asked a elite person, cough cough


You can say that when you pass me in RR :)

It will not happen because it would have to involve some very good rogs, not like it would be worth it with a shitty blue con mez. I mean at max your be adding 12 seconds to your mez (well 12 - 42% resists and Det whatever level) and in exchange your gimp your resists.
 

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Bubble said:
You can say that when you pass me in RR :)

It will not happen because it would have to involve some very good rogs, not like it would be worth it with a shitty blue con mez. I mean at max your be adding 12 seconds to your mez (well 12 - 42% resists and Det whatever level) and in exchange your gimp your resists.

Im 44 body 31 mind atm, and it works like a charm. The lack of mez i make up for in killing ppl faster ;) What rr are you btw? That sounds like you want a duel.
 

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