Sorc is overpowered... yeah!

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Yeah grapple immunity, woohoo, think I been grappled once since TOA release :p
Lorfo said:
next time I phaseshift so you get something new to whine on !
Oh don't start on phaseshift, doesn't even say the enemy is phaseshifted just gives a load of resists and its not until phaseshift is over that you realise it was phaseshift in the first place!
 

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ye lets give healers best 2 ml lines and cleric warlord!
 

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Hotrats said:
Yeah grapple immunity, woohoo, think I been grappled once since TOA release :p


You need to play more against albs tbh! ;)
 

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Hotrats said:
Yeah grapple immunity, woohoo, think I been grappled once since TOA release :pOh don't start on phaseshift, doesn't even say the enemy is phaseshifted just gives a load of resists and its not until phaseshift is over that you realise it was phaseshift in the first place!

ehm, its quite easy to see if someone phaseshift tho :p
 

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Z^^ said:
ye lets give healers best 2 ml lines and cleric warlord!

Too unfair, give clerics spymaster

Hotrats said:
Yeah grapple immunity, woohoo, think I been grappled once since TOA release :pOh don't start on phaseshift, doesn't even say the enemy is phaseshifted just gives a load of resists and its not until phaseshift is over that you realise it was phaseshift in the first place!

The dwarf casts a spell with a yellow beam shining through his head and then a ice white border around him and you continue to nuke him, you waste 50 power... Isn't particulary hard to see phaseshift. If u want a proper whine, comment on the fotm ice theurg in croc mode hid behind a few trees thats quite nice at this time of year.
 

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majik said:
Too unfair, give clerics spymaster



The dwarf casts a spell with a yellow beam shining through his head and then a ice white border around him and you continue to nuke him, you waste 50 power... Isn't particulary hard to see phaseshift. If u want a proper whine, comment on the fotm ice theurg in croc mode hid behind a few trees thats quite nice at this time of year.
Think I saw a yellow effect once, never a white border, I don't nuke enemies from point blank range you know... maybe I'll see an alb use it so I know what I'm looking for.

oh and the point is it doesn't say anything in the log of whether an enemy is phaseshifted or not, just gives resists.

Any caster in croc and hidden behind something is gonna cause a lot of trouble, nothing special about ice theurg's...
 

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Hotrats said:
Any caster in croc and hidden behind something is gonna cause a lot of trouble, nothing special about ice theurg's...

in fact ice theurg in croc mode hiding behind a tree is the caster which should cause the least amonth of trouble..

either you see the pets comning out from the tree... or you get nooked for 200-300 (MAX)

i think all other casters would be more devastating in croc mode behind a tree...
 

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Filip said:
either you see the pets comning out from the tree... or you get nooked for 200-300 (MAX)
I hear Storhemulen nukes for 201 occasionally
 

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Filip said:
in fact ice theurg in croc mode hiding behind a tree is the caster which should cause the least amonth of trouble..

either you see the pets comning out from the tree... or you get nooked for 200-300 (MAX)

i think all other casters would be more devastating in croc mode behind a tree...


OR he can just lock down all your support. Theurgs arent there for dmg, I thought ppl knew that...


edit: this was posted by arnor
 

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I think the point was about crocmode, it doesn't really help too much when the pets come. :p
 

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Filip said:
in fact ice theurg in croc mode hiding behind a tree is the caster which should cause the least amonth of trouble..

either you see the pets comning out from the tree... or you get nooked for 200-300 (MAX)

i think all other casters would be more devastating in croc mode behind a tree...

The point was that by the time a theurg in croc mode has been spotted behind a tree (which is obviously hard) all your support classes are struggling to deal with the pets, no other caster can disable the support classes of a group like that. Take for example the fire wizard in croc mode behind a tree, it can spam nukes on you for a while until its discovered then the nuking stops, whereas with the theurgist the pets remain for a timer, not sure on the timers but I think that explains it more clearly.
 

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enigma said:
I think the point was about crocmode, it doesn't really help too much when the pets come. :p


it does, since it helps keeping theurg out of "first target" spot, which is usually the first death in the group. So tanks hop on sorc or cleric, and theurg can pin down support, and also evade first mezz if he unsticks properly.

(still arnor)
 

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i play theurg (atm wind but going back to cold first chance)

and yes you CAN lock down the support if you get the chance to pet.

but if some1 DONT identify me as the petspammer within 2-4 sec (1-2 pets)even if i was a grogan then they really need glass's..

i use my range to surview. Croc form wouldnt change a thing for a pet theurg vs average+ players..

if i want to make targeting harder i just step into my hugh ice friends (but then again shouldnt be needed if im at the correct 2200 range..
 

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Filip said:
i play theurg (atm wind but going back to cold first chance)

and yes you CAN lock down the support if you get the chance to pet.

but if some1 DONT identify me as the petspammer within 2-4 sec (1-2 pets)even if i was a grogan then they really need glass's..

i use my range to surview. Croc form wouldnt change a thing for a pet theurg vs average+ players..

if i want to make targeting harder i just step into my hugh ice friends (but then again shouldnt be needed if im at the correct 2200 range..


you can see a normal theurg @ 2k range, you can not see a croc--theurg 2@ 2k range

also, you will prolly get away with more then 2-4 seconds before spotted since you wait till ppl have picked their targets
 

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OMMMGMGMGMGMGMGMGGM at the stupidness here...

im shocked.......


really........... i give you the hint here ....

A: you see pets spawn
B: you run to the point pets spawn
C: you kill the nearest briton target

if this is hard then im seriously shocked...

and why is 2200 range better than croc form for a petter ? becuase the evul guy with pointy ears only have range of 1650... and the evul smelly guy with axe or spear need to run very far to stop me (i ofcuase run the opposite dir as long as he chase's me)
 

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Filip said:
OMMMGMGMGMGMGMGMGGM at the stupidness here...

im shocked.......


really........... i give you the hint here ....

A: you see pets spawn
B: you run to the point pets spawn
C: you kill the nearest briton target

if this is hard then im seriously shocked...

and why is 2200 range better than croc form for a petter ? becuase the evul guy with pointy ears only have range of 1650... and the evul smelly guy with axe or spear need to run very far to stop me (i ofcuase run the opposite dir as long as he chase's me)

if i stand at 2000 range and pet persons then see 2 savages run towards me i run away from them, SIMPLE AS THAT ;)

or i kill them with 400-550 nukes, maybe you should look over your spellcraft? :) (not on elph hibs! :p)
 

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mts said:
it does, since it helps keeping theurg out of "first target" spot, which is usually the first death in the group. So tanks hop on sorc or cleric, and theurg can pin down support, and also evade first mezz if he unsticks properly.

(still arnor)

The theurg is attacked before the sorc? That's a new approach. :p
 

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enigma said:
The theurg is attacked before the sorc? That's a new approach. :p


it happens! (when im drunk :p)

what i mostly ment is cc-wize, and if you keep your head down, you wont get picked after sorc is down.
 

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Arnor said:
it happens! (when im drunk :p)

what i mostly ment is cc-wize, and if you keep your head down, you wont get picked after sorc is down.

Yup, true.. But the theurg isn't really considered a target compared to the sorc untill he starts to spam pets anyway, so the croc form isn't _very_ effective for the petspamming theurg since he's pretty easy to find when petspamming.. It's not wasted ofcourse not.. but it's not as effective on the theurg as on a pure damagedealer.. atleast not as effective as on the damagedealers that get dd's without trails that point to the caster..

So petspammers consider 2k range when spamming more important than not being seen when not spamming..
 

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Lethul said:
if i stand at 2000 range and pet persons then see 2 savages run towards me i run away from them, SIMPLE AS THAT ;)

or i kill them with 400-550 nukes, maybe you should look over your spellcraft? :) (not on elph hibs! :p)

ya the wind spec got some good sides.... but my Toa template is focused on power,range,speed and not spell dam ... and i cba to remake it ... would be a projekt of several months with my play time atm.. so for me cold spec is better..

my nukes are at 300-450 which is ok for me as alb. but i like to pet... more fun and got 25% dur on em ..
 

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Filip said:
ya the wind spec got some good sides.... but my Toa template is focused on power,range,speed and not spell dam ... and i cba to remake it ... would be a projekt of several months with my play time atm.. so for me cold spec is better..

my nukes are at 300-450 which is ok for me as alb. but i like to pet... more fun and got 25% dur on em ..

i got ice pets to :(
 

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Those chain stunning air pets are the most annoying tbh...
 

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plus the fact that you can hide behind your ice pets as well while in croc mode :) and yes I often find my self killed long before the sorc is.
 

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Filip said:
OMMMGMGMGMGMGMGMGGM at the stupidness here...

im shocked.......


really........... i give you the hint here ....

A: you see pets spawn
B: you run to the point pets spawn
C: you kill the nearest briton target

A: You see the pets spawn.
B: You run to the point pets spawn at.
C: You get rooted stunned or grappled.
D: The theurg carries on raping your support classes.
E: You release.

The only 'stupidness' as you like to call it is believing that load of shite you just entered. If you believe thats how it would happen in RvR then you really do surpass the other people in albion with your degree of 'stupidness'.
 

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majik said:
A: You see the pets spawn.
B: You run to the point pets spawn at.
C: You get rooted stunned or grappled.
D: The theurg carries on raping your support classes.
E: You release.

The only 'stupidness' as you like to call it is believing that load of shite you just entered. If you believe thats how it would happen in RvR then you really do surpass the other people in albion with your degree of 'stupidness'.

This was about crocform and what effectiveness it had when petspamming. The only 'stupidness' here is not realising that.
 

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enigma said:
This was about crocform and what effectiveness it had when petspamming. The only 'stupidness' here is not realising that.

Take a second to think about it before you just reply with any random message. I was referring to pet spamming in croc mode if you would like to read my earlier post instead of just acting like a smartass, this post carries on from the earlier one I made, which is an easy assumption if you actually read it. And fyi I was the person who mentioned croc form so I know what this discussion is about mmkay?
 

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