some good news for armsmen and warriors

[ilienwyn]

Originally posted by Pandemic
not sure if warriors are > heroes certainly the warrior was designed to be better than any other melee class (warrior is best melee class in the melee realm) so should always be warrior>hero and warrior> armsmen

if u look at the stats for ecxal admittedly out of date warriors are pretty far down the list compared to heroes which doesnt say a lot for warriors being better at melee

Yes cause anyone prefers playing Bezerker up to 1.62 and savages after that...

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by ilienwyn
Yes cause anyone prefers playing Bezerker up to 1.62 and savages after that...

dunno never played either

 

[old.Nol]

Originally posted by quinthar
Rar Armsmen morph into Chanters for 30 secs with MOC, should be enough to wipe out the entire emain front..

Erm, this isnt true for any sad tarts that thoguht it was!!!

I'd be laughing if it was, the weakest morph in dark age of tankalot.

Maybe they could morph into a hill toad instead...how ubar!

 

[ilienwyn]

Originally posted by old.Nol
I'd be laughing if it was, the weakest morph in dark age of tankalot.

Maybe they could morph into a hill toad instead...how ubar!

Give morph to Apocalypse. 1hit kills for 30secs
Now i see it better, morph to savage would suffice just fine as well

 

[Belomar]

Originally posted by Pandemic
yeah thats the point though mythic stated midgard was the melee realm and warrior was best melee class as they code the game i expect warriors to be > any other class in melee

You agree with Tzeentch, and still continue saying the same sh*t? If Midgard is the melee realm, that is because their class array consists mainly of melee classes. It has nothing to do with them having to have better melee chars than Albion or Hibernia! This is a PvP online game, various combatants are supposed to be balanced!

Then again, you can also have this outlook on things:

i dont expect or want there to be a game balance

...as long as you don't have to suffer, right? I just know you'd be whining if it turned out that balance all of a sudden swung in Alb or Hib favor.

 

[VodkaFairy]

Heroes have shit armor though.. slash vulnerable.. all fotm's in mid are slash and some slash + thrust

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by Belomar
Then again, you can also have this outlook on things:...as long as you don't have to suffer, right? I just know you'd be whining if it turned out that balance all of a sudden swung in Alb or Hib favor.

check out the us servers on who gets a lvl 30 start sometime it swung in albs balance sometime ago

 

[splash0r]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
Hero is ahead by a long shot - 50LW,50 parry (2damage types) and moose.

Warrior is second - defensive and offensive in same spec 50 sword/axe, 42 shield, 39 parry.

Armsman is third. Can spec defensively or offensively but not both. Either as warrior above, but no 2h option or as 2h but drops a lot of defense to get same damage level as mooseboy or warrior.

Pls show me a hero with LW that can outtank a warrior ?

 

[splash0r]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
there is no such thing as 'melee realm'

its just bullshit spun out by mythic ok?
stop trying to use that as an argument.

and fyi warriors are VERY fucking good and effective, i'd rank a warrior > hero > armsman

Ur right but still id say heros are better at dmg over time but hero´s lack defencive skill imo warriors have a great advantage with their one specc line for 2hand/1hand and the best warriors has 50 sheild , 50 sheild in RVR is really nice to defend with

 

[BidAccount]

Splash0r

1v1 I'll give you warrior over moose - if moose is mooseless.

Larger scale? LW moose hands down. Much more effective.

 

[StormriderX]

Only time a warrior is inferior to hero is when the player him/herself is inferior

Warriors = best heavy tank in game.

Heros = second.

Arms = need loving.

Oh and Zarko BM >>> hero in offence

 

[ilienwyn]

Originally posted by StormriderX
Only time a warrior is inferior to hero is when the player him/herself is inferior

Warriors = best heavy tank in game.

Heros = second.

Arms = need loving.

Oh and Zarko BM >>> hero in offence

Well, nuff said. If a bm says we need love they know something from own experience. What do you think, increased bleeding like mercs and bm will be enough for Mythic i guess?

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by StormriderX
Only time a warrior is inferior to hero is when the player him/herself is inferior

Warriors = best heavy tank in game.

Heros = second.

Arms = need loving.

Oh and Zarko BM >>> hero in offence

sigh and how long b4 we get the cries of 'nerf warrior' my guess as soon as the savage nerf appears

 

[Flimgoblin]

Originally posted by Pandemic
sigh and how long b4 we get the cries of 'nerf warrior' my guess as soon as the savage nerf appears

quite possibly (the cries I mean)

but the warrior in themselves don't need a nerf, they're what a heavy tank should be.

Armsmen need a boost... no bones about it.

Hero's have an armour disadvantage and no free 1h weapons whilst shielding - but they get moose to make up for that.

 

[ilienwyn]

Originally posted by Pandemic
sigh and how long b4 we get the cries of 'nerf warrior' my guess as soon as the savage nerf appears

hehe, no then it's turn of bonedancers and spiritmaster's pet
Well the first don't have so much impact in group rvr at least and the second are quite forgotten along with all your casters atm but that pet is awesome
I would prefer it if they "merged" our 4 caster classes in 2 tbh

 

[Silenzio]

New Armsman only RvR Ability:

every 30 min Higlander Armsman will be able to wear off theyr kilt

stunning the enemy with the sight ov theyr real pole


note:

new ability does not apply for the following race

Briton armsman, u should be a friar
Saracen amrsman r too short to have a second pole
Avalonian armasman will be deletted by server at next log on
Iconnu armsman, ever seen a smurf haveing sex?

 

[ilienwyn]

Originally posted by Silenzio
New Armsman only RvR Ability:

every 30 min Higlander Armsman will be able to wear off theyr kilt

stunning the enemy with the sight ov theyr real pole


note:

new ability does not apply for the following race

Briton armsman, u should be a friar
Saracen amrsman r too short to have a second pole
Avalonian armasman will be deletted by server at next log on
Iconnu armsman, ever seen a smurf haveing sex?

Hahah, well at least albion will get an instant stun that way.Maybe make it aoe too?

 

[StormriderX]

Originally posted by Pandemic
sigh and how long b4 we get the cries of 'nerf warrior' my guess as soon as the savage nerf appears

Never said warriors need nerfing - just saying they don't need loving either t.t

 

[Hyuga Hinata]

Only thing that sucks with mid getting free 2h is the fact that 90% of the styles are useless, since most of the better ones chain off block.

 

[old.Tzeentch]

warriors fucking own.. they are almost perfect in the description of a heavy tank.. just solid straight out kick your ass or save your mates ass kinda thing.

well, at least jawz was.

and i dont see why no-one else can be.

 

[belth]

Originally posted by Hyuga Hinata
Only thing that sucks with mid getting free 2h is the fact that 90% of the styles are useless, since most of the better ones chain off block.

Or just spam Provoke. /shake-fist

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by StormriderX
Never said warriors need nerfing - just saying they don't need loving either t.t

cool i'll hold u to that when the endless nerf warrior posts start

 

[tildson]

Originally posted by Pandemic
not sure if warriors are > heroes certainly the warrior was designed to be better than any other melee class (warrior is best melee class in the melee realm) so should always be warrior>hero and warrior> armsmen

if u look at the stats for ecxal admittedly out of date warriors are pretty far down the list compared to heroes which doesnt say a lot for warriors being better at melee

Last thing i'd care about is the stats for Excalibur

The "melee-realm" is just an imagination made by Mythic, even if they are a melee-realm it must'nt mean they deal most damage. All 3 primary tanks should be balanced, each one have their own speciality and characteristic.

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by old.Tzeentch
warriors fucking own.. they are almost perfect in the description of a heavy tank.. just solid straight out kick your ass or save your mates ass kinda thing.

well, at least jawz was.

and i dont see why no-one else can be.

because not many other people either bother to play warriors to high rr as jawz or can get into rvr grps in the first place

 

[ilienwyn]

Not that styles are good in other realms anyway. The quality of styles existing in SI classes like savages, reavers and animists is quite above the rest as an average of a whole chain. I really hope the style review makes some changes so that all speccs can have some good styles for any use (front, side, back, counteranything).

 

[Flimgoblin]

hrm spiritmasters could be scary if they fix resists...
so could a lot of caster classes though...

but wait and see on that

 

[Wuren]

Warrior > Hero/Armsman

The extra ws and 1 h/2 h in same spec line > moose/plate/group ra

Moose is pretty much useless in group RvR, lets think about it for a bit, you only need it when you cant get any heals and the tanks are beating on your ass.

When is that?

When your support is dead so you are fucked anyway.

It's useful in 1vs1 situations, but how often do pure tanks solo? I can't speak for the rest of the Hero's but id take the higher WS and 1/2 h spec line over moose anyday.

Dont get me wrong, Im not saying warriors need a nerf, infact I think the heavy tank's are the most balanced classes amongst all. There are some minor tweaks left and some fluff changes, that's about it.

 

[BidAccount]

Hmmmm

Seen you moose plenty of times Wuren. Admittedly you were f**ked most of the time....

 

[Pandemic]

Originally posted by donttouchpoopy
Hmmmm

Seen you moose plenty of times Wuren. Admittedly you were f**ked most of the time....

mmm sounds like a lot of people found wuren in moose form attractive then

 

[yurka_polearm]

any idea when this might be brought into the game?