So....

[tris-]

i just got pre orderd this game seen as the hype is so big. what i wanna know is, is it really all that good? if you could, please compare it to daoc/EQ2/Horizons (LOL). ofc if you cba, just throw in a few words

 

[Evoknox]

I played daoc for almost 2 years and I think wow is a better game, but I've always been a fan of blizzard so I guess I'm a bit prejudiced

The game speed is way faster than daoc's, every class is able to solo well and questing is a big part of the exp system. You need some patience though because alot of cool stuff still isn't in the game yet, like a PvP reward system and battlegrounds (wich is a bit like daoc's RvR, I think just with 1 keep on each side )

Realms are more balanced too IMO, but what would you expect with the same classes on each realm

Got tons of more stuff to say really but it's just a matter of taste, just try it yourself for a while and see what you like best.

 

[Tharion]

Well here's my opinion.

I've played DAoC since it started in EU so about 3 years.

WoW is nice, it's easy to get started.
The world is great, all the small things, wolfs attacking critters like rabbits.
Footprints in the snow change, example when a druid shapeshifts to a catform the footprints change to catprints.

Quests are fun, easy to get exp and items.
And there are so many it's almost sick.
Some quests have great stories if you follow them.
Allmost all classes are pretty easy to solo with.
The balance in the game (PvE wise) seems balanced.

Atm there is no reward system for PvP och FvF if you like to call it that.
But the game is new, and I really think it will become great in a couple of patches and content patches.
Battlegrounds are currently being developed for more FvF action ala DAoC.
But I think it won't slap DAoC on the fingers when it comes to large scale battles, atleast not as it feels now.

In later patches we will prolly see old uber items from Diablo2 come back and haunt us like Eaglehorn, Windforce, the Grandfather etc..
Plz geiv itajmz SOJ!!11 keke

Well I can go on and on.. but thats a little input from me.
I wont compare with EQ as I only played it for 2 months and will allways think it's crap (my opinion).

 

[gin]

I've played :-

(top = best)
wow
daoc
swg
saga of ryzom
anarchy online
second life
shadowbane
ac2
(bottom = worse)

so far wow is by far the best mmorpg I've played.... I think its a lot better compard with daoc and I'd played daoc since the start of retail and loved it till they released toa.

 

[tris-]

i played daoc from retail to SI and a bit longer. its good but it got boring after a year. reckon the same would happen with wow?

 

[Fana]

Well, imo, WoW and daoc are both great games.

Nice features of wow are,
# a world that seems more handcrafted and living and breathing than daocs. There are alot of atmospheric little things in it that really add to the immersion factor.
# very solo friendly. Can also be a drawback since it doesnt encourage grouping much, but it ensures that you can always log on and accomplish something even if you dont find people to group with. And the harder quests and instances definetly do require grouping anyway.
# very balanced. Both factions share the same classes with only one exception in each faction. All classes are also pretty much balanced against each other - any class can win against any other (although some have it alil easier against some others).

Nice features of daoc are,
# best teamwork game out there atm probably (in mmorpg terms at least).
# large world that is still growing, lots of stuff to do and see (if you havent played it for ages and already seen and done it all).
# lots of room for character personalisation, even if most characters end up cookiecutter.
# set in a slightly more realistic looking world, and with catacombs it will have character/mob gfx equal to the most current games.
# best pvp/rvr system out there, no doubt. Even if there are many imbalance issues, nothing so far has come close to the thrill of fg vs fg or the epic feeling of a large siege, where walls/gates are down and there is fighting all over a keep (as long as the server holds up).
# can level in rvr these days, which really rocks and is a huge plus when you are exping your 5th or 6th character,

 

[Tharion]

i played daoc from retail to SI and a bit longer. its good but it got boring after a year. reckon the same would happen with wow?

Impossible to say.
Why did DAoC get boring?

 

[Khale]

Let me just say don't rush it too much to 60 until you are sure there's something to do at 60 (cause atm the battlefield plans are in development but not implemented yet on the servers). There's a lot of nice development and ideas running around. The word that springs to mind when I play WoW is "Solo". The game is very enjoyable solo. I don't say DAoC is bad or something but it wasn't aimed at being a solo player experience so the fun on both sides is different. I've seen a lot duo's running around in WoW and some mere zerging (but when it was zerging it wasn't just us lowbees vs them all it was more us + guards vs the zerg and to be honest it's so chaotic you almost laugh at it). And atm dying ain't bad cause you don't loose xp (xp equals time) with it.

WoW is just more fun because of the graphics how they are and the things people can do (really tauren dance is too silly). DAoC was uber addictive in early days with not so much resources and without buffbots. Now people have xxx amounts of Ps and x amount of buffbots that turned it more into a working thing then having fun.

I'll give an example in WoW. Like last night I had to crosh 2 pvp zones (I play on pvp server) and I got through the first one quite easy. But at the 2nd I met some troll and an orc. Although they were around 20-25 (and me being 27) they did kill me (don't get your hopes up to soon cause I did kill 1 fyi ). Was I annoyed? No. Did I find it unfair? No. Did I have fun? Yeah, cause I feared the warrior + pet and see em run like mad towards mobs of their level and me trying to kill the hunter (which I did, I'm a priest btw). So bring on the fun imo

 

[Fedaykin]

wow is great if a little lacking in pvp rewards, which are being implemented -

i actually have fun in pve which im afraid daoc lost quite a while ago, especially with TOA

looking forward to retail and gonan try have all my uni work done so i can take a break :>

 

[Escape]

I'm not so certain about WoW now, than I was during US beta.

It's alot friendlier that daoc for starting out, and the quests are ok, until you need to farm 8/8 items from heavily camped mobs. The Battlegrounds sound like a constant zerg pushing back and forth. I'd hate to see the end PvP become a regular night of "join the BG and listen to Arph0r command his forces". Had to much of that during daoc seiges

Though if there's good 'FG vs FG' PvP to be had, it should be fun

 

[Nedo]

Both very good games imo. Fana's post says most of it.

PvE is for me as much of a pain in WoW as it was in Daoc. yes it looks and plays good but after being amazed at good looking places first lvls its basically same quests over and over (read kill N of X kinda mob => return to quest NPC person for exp/cash/item). New from Daoc exping grind yes, super fun cause its not daoc exping...no....

On the other hand WoW feels a whole lot more "done" at release then Daoc ever did. Only thing really lacking is development of PvP scene a bit.

 

[Fafnir]

Impossible to say.
Why did DAoC get boring?

Two crap addons like TOA and NF. TOA added more pve than was in the game before and bugs, bugs, bugs, bugs, that after a year are still there.

 

[yaruar]

I'm enjoying WoW right now, it's a well put together game and the world is well designed. It has immediate appeal and doesn't discriminate against solo players. Due to be a largely antisocial bastard i always have a tendency to go off on my own for long periods of time and i've been able to solo quite successfully so far, just PvE for the time being, but i will have a go at PvP too. Definately a lot of content there already, not much high end content at the moment apparantly, but remember that Daoc didn't even have any real mid level content let alone high level content when first released. There were no epic zones, most of the zones weren't even itamised until well after release. I've got high hopes for it especially as i will be playing more casually than i played Daoc. I suspect powergamers will get bored relatively quickly but for the more casual player and those who like to imerse themselves in the content then i think they will enjoy the game a lot.

 

[Pestilence]

With the current and most likely "future" state of DAOC.

WoW even though its plentifull bugs, nazi official forum and poorly developed PvP system is the better game.

There are things in WoW that makes it by far the better game at the moment.
Game echonomy
Quests
all classes can manage in PvE aswell as in PvP.

 

[Bone_Idle]

DAoC was more hard work. I didnt wanna come home from work into more work with daoc and more frustrating times.

WoW is fun and easy going.

I was never into the fg vs fg stuff in daoc, That ruined the game.

 

[Tallen]

WoW quests are fun and easy to get, levelling and questing is a method to promote explorartion in the game and is very much a progressive system which works superbly!

DAoC quests, by comparison, suck.

Levelling in WoW is a matter of fun and exploration, my rogue is lvl 34 and i have done all this through questing, not one minute of farming mobs. I have enjoyed every minute so far!

DAoC levelling, by comparison, is a treadmill.

Crafting in WoW is a system of exploring and harvesting materials, even the lowest level items from alchemy etc are usable and useful, the auction house is great, easy to use and very well designed (much like the FFXI auction houses). PLUS you actually make money while crafting and make things people need everyday! No armour quality means an AF 50 vest is an AF50 vest!

DAoC crafting is, by comparison, a thankless timesink that costs you more cash than you will ever recoup from selling items, 99% of the time the items you make are totally useless. An AF 102 vest 99% is worthless, a MP is worth something but may take 100+ tries at 1 minute + per retry, you do the math!

WoW world is beautiful, the scenery is quite superb, the races well designed. You cannot gimp your class by race choice alone and the classes are well balanced for the most part.

DAoC is imbalanced, nothing more needs saying. The graphics are 3 years out of date and sterile by comparison.

 

[Urme the Legend]

DAoC quests, by comparison, suck.

Levelling in WoW is a matter of fun and exploration, my rogue is lvl 34 and i have done all this through questing, not one minute of farming mobs. I have enjoyed every minute so far!

It was exactly the same thing with DAoC at the beginning.. it was FUN to level and at the same time explore. I remember taking a horse from Fort Veldon down to Gna Faste... I had no idea what I was going to find down there.. the only thing I had was the "minimap" on paper that you recieved with the game.
It was exciting to go and exp in Yggdra for the first time.

So levelling in DAoC was also very fun when you did it the first and second time. But it gets boring when you do the same thing over and over again.. doesn't matter if it's "farming" mobs or doing quests.

Can you imagine that you will have as much fun on your third character, doing the same quests as you had on your first character?

 

[Maghica]

It's the 'total newness' that is so alluring...and the crafting!

 

[Urme the Legend]

It's the 'total newness' that is so alluring...and the crafting!

Yepp.. ask me again in 3 years about WoW and I will tell you which game is best

 

[Evoknox]

Whats also better in WoW compared to DAoC; in daoc rog drops were just salvage stuff; in WoW 90% of the drops are actually good and usable, there are really no "fixed" items that a class would have in order to compete.

 

[Hrogar]

Well I can't add much more than has already been said.

Been playing DAoC since EU-release (3 years) and only just left it this sunday for WoW-beta, and so far I haven't had any regrets (except missing friends who will probably join me in WoW ). Like everyone else have said the exping-system is very different from DAoC; keyword being Quests. Trust me, old fashioned camp-some-mobs-for-hours-with-the-perfect-group just doesn't work in WoW. With quests you usually need to kill a reasonable amount of different mobs but then you get exp both for killing mobs and the quest, plus some money/items. As for the boredom of doing similar quests it never really struck me to be honest. Sure, it was a lot of killing troggs, kobolds etc but it was in different places for different purposes and rewards. And when it comes to exploring the gameworld in WoW is many, many, many times bigger and more beautiful than in DAoC. I ran through about 3 zones the other night and it basically took me 2-3 hours. Okay, I died a lot while gaping in wonder at the enviroment but still

Haven't tried PvP much yet but Blizzard will without a doubt do a splendid job implementing it into the already existing game.

My advice is to try the game for yourself, no better way to judge it!

Kind regards

 

[Tharion]

Whats also better in WoW compared to DAoC; in daoc rog drops were just salvage stuff; in WoW 90% of the drops are actually good and usable, there are really no "fixed" items that a class would have in order to compete.

Well im only 27 atm.

But the stuff that have been dropping since 20+ have been 10-15% stuff I can use, 5% stuff I can sell on AH, rest just sell to merchant.
And thats the green/blue drops.
Craft, crap and other stuff are like 95% to the above stuff in comparison.

Well the Epic sets will be pretty much the stuff ppl will want when they get to 60 and PvP i guess. Oh and I just love that they kept the set bonus stuff from D2

 

[Nedo]

Well spoken Urme.

Killing our first olliephant (dino close to Connla) in Daoc was still 1 of strongest memories in daoc cause it was pure joy to just see the mob and to kill it was big smile over my face and I think on my new found Daoc friends to. Remember it Zanzara/Ghostbear/Lianuchta/Kurrinos/Ione/Xest/Silver/Croonah and so on?

I think people keep saying Daoc sucks compared to WoW and so on and yet many many many of us have been playing it for 3 years.

I for 1 is 110% sure I wont enjoy questing on my 3rd unded char 1 bit more then I did exping up my say 4th lvl 50 on Daoc. I will however have same joy in WoW exping my first char up as I had in daoc. Even though my demands on a MMORPG is MUCH higher then it was 3 years ago.

WoW is new and its fun but the 1 thing I see as better is that you can actually lvl alone if you want to without a bb. Apart from taht its.....different and that makes it interresting to play so far.

Nedo

 

[Tallen]

It was exactly the same thing with DAoC at the beginning.. it was FUN to level and at the same time explore. I remember taking a horse from Fort Veldon down to Gna Faste... I had no idea what I was going to find down there.. the only thing I had was the "minimap" on paper that you recieved with the game.
It was exciting to go and exp in Yggdra for the first time.

So levelling in DAoC was also very fun when you did it the first and second time. But it gets boring when you do the same thing over and over again.. doesn't matter if it's "farming" mobs or doing quests.

Can you imagine that you will have as much fun on your third character, doing the same quests as you had on your first character?

The exploration in daoc was fun, but it was never 'driven' quite as well as WoW is imo.

I disagree about lvling.

Even in DAoC from day 1 you had to farm mobs to level, quests never gave you nearly enough xp. I played from beta and fondly remember farming Mermen at Connla's well for hours on end for no purpose to get past lvl 25 or something. If it hadnt been for the great bunch of players i met who became my guild for the last 3 years (and into WoW i might add), i would have quit after a week.

Please dont say Kill Tasks, because they were not in the game at release and frankly were pointless thankless "Go here, kill one of these for no reason" excuses for quests, WoW at least has progressive quests with a well considered storyline to it, DAoC only has epic and one-or-two other quests like Banba's on Hib

One point i forgot to mention was that WoW AH's > Running around Torrylin for hours running into zone walls to buy a bloody breath potion