So, what do YOU think of my paladin's name?

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SFXman

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I really doubt that the guilds reputation will be affected by this one alt of mine that happens to have a name that puts some people off, I mean most know that I am a very nice person to group with and that I am actually a very sensible and helpful person. I am most certainly not some 1337 d00d.
Surely people who have grouped with Lother at the pygmys would know this or any lowbies that I have donatead things or gold to etc. etc. etc.
The name is being changed hopefully due to my RightNow request or if that is not possible and then find that it cannot be done I will just delete the character once I get some transfer help to a new character.
They did not kick me out of LoE, just that they do not wish that there is a character called Cannabis among their ranks. They being the few people who dislike the name of course, not the general population in the ever so fine guild which I dearly do enjoy being in.
 
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ivan_tribbiani

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Originally posted by SFXman
I really doubt that the guilds reputation will be affected by this one alt of mine that happens to have a name that puts some people off, I mean most know that I am a very nice person to group with and that I am actually a very sensible and helpful person. I am most certainly not some 1337 d00d.
Surely people who have grouped with Lother at the pygmys would know this or any lowbies that I have donatead things or gold to etc. etc. etc.
The name is being changed hopefully due to my RightNow request or if that is not possible and then find that it cannot be done I will just delete the character once I get some transfer help to a new character.
They did not kick me out of LoE, just that they do not wish that there is a character called Cannabis among their ranks. They being the few people who dislike the name of course, not the general population in the ever so fine guild which I dearly do enjoy being in.

Well at least sounds sensible imho :)
 
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old.Revz

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I find that a stupid name. Had you tried to guild an alt like that with SotL I would have personally kicked all of your characters unless you had deleted it on the spot. We've turned down people before based on having dumb names and I would whole-heartedly agree with LoE for not wanting a character named "cannabis" under their guild tag. Whether Kemor finds it acceptable is neither here nor there because he doesn't run the guild. Whether you find it acceptable or not is irrelevant because you don't run the guild either.

It isn't about forcing people to roleplay or anything, it is about understanding the fact that some people like to pretend they are running round in a medieval world and at least respecting their right to do that without having inanely named characters spoiling it for them.
 
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SFXman

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[OT]Mmm, but then again I always thought of SotL being totally different. You in the first place barely take any new members anyway and plus I for one wouldn't join that guild even if given the chance which would never happen in reality.[/OT]
On topic though, kicking all characters out of the guild for having an alt with that name OUTSIDE of the guild is just plain ridiculous in my humble opinion. I can faintly begin to understand the kicking out of this one character due to some responses given but still I will not fully understand it because so many find it reasonably acceptable, at least from experience.
I used to have another paladin with this same name whilst in Crusaders and never had any problems arise, almost all ex-members of Crusaders are in LoE and then again these people have no problem with this name at all...
I would like to know how exactly is someones entire gaming experience destroyed by a character with this particular name, in that case I would not hide the fact that I think they are taking the game way too seriously.
Now though it really doesn't matter that much anymore since I am awaiting a reply from RightNow as to changing my characters name and if that is not possible I will proceed in deleting the character and starting it again just for the sake that I could be in LoE with this interesting paladin template of mine, not because some people find the name strange/stupid/immature/etc.
Well naturally that is a slight reason too because I can't be in LoE if I don't do something about the name but that is not my ideolgy about it.
 
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Damini

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I think it's quite funny hearing "Don't judge someone on their name, you aer teh shallow!!!". It's not like real life, where if you get saddled with the name Tulip Macgoogle-Pant Snifty, you're lumbered with it, and your parents are evil. I know a girl called Jenny Taylor, poor lass, she didn't choose her name. Her daft parents did.

But in a role play game, you choose your name. Choosing my name is often what I take longest doing, because my stats can change, but the name stays with me for the duration of playing (mostly I have a main called Damini though, my first UO mage). Your name *does* say something about you, and you're lying if you say it doesn't. The person that chooses the name SlAsH3r is likely to have a very different personality to Dracor, is likely to have a very different personality to Smeghead, is likely to have a very different personality to Pwned, and so on. I would say you chose the name Cannabis because you think drugs are cool, because you are young, because you are up for a laugh and not taking everything too seriously, and that name will attract like minded people. These are all signals a name puts out, whether you intend it to or not, whether you feel they are accurate or not. If I was looking to join a guild, and was greeted by the character Cannabis, I would start making assumptions about that guilds criteria, its human nature. Your name is a way of flagging what type of player you are, and I would instantly assume it was a non roleplaying guild, and maybe a bit young for me.

I'm not saying that you are crap, and I'd hate to associate with you SFXman, but I would find the name off putting. Role play community is about finding like minded people mostly, and that name sets a certain bracket socially. Bud is open to interpretation, Bud beer, Buddy, flower bud (not having to be cannabis) but cannabis is cannabis, no wangling that one through babel fish.
 
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SFXman

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Then again you must take into consideration one fact Damini which can keel over your ideas, the fact that most of the people who saw me after I made this fourth character already knew me before, they had a picture of me based on my nature and past, and not my 4th characters name.
In a case where the person does not know me as my other characters yet, you might be able to put it into your thoughts my dear Damini. Still, the image given by the name is only the very first impression, and most certainly it will change over time if you get to know the person. Although if you are of hasty type well then you might dismiss the person the second you see them and refuse to talk to them which again is a slight bit daft.
Will you judge a person by their looks when you see them, if they walk up to you downtown? No, generally not, they might be the nicest people around even if they dress in black and have four million piercings.
Yes I can realte to real-life in the sense that some take this game so seriously, why not, be on the same level in such a way.
 
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old.job

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I'm sorry SFX , but that's so lame.
ANY idiot can call themselves a stupid name, it isn't clever, imaginative, humorous or cool to call your character after the world's most popular drug.

Just like trying to call it any swear word or sexual reference, it's been done a million times before.

What is clever, imaginative and humorous is to come up with a name that makes people go 'why didn't I think of that?'

A name that evokes a memory of some forgotten style or character that brings a smile to your face, now that's cool.
 
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SFXman

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Customer (Tuomas LECKLIN) - 09/23/2002 07:25 AM
My paladin's name is Cannabis and I would like to request that you change it to: Saradin
The reasoning behind this is that some find my name plain stupid, immature, uncreative, not-fitting-the-universe, or whatever the reason and it is really causing me trouble... my guild will not allow this character even though all my other characters are in that guild. This name has been said to not violate your naming policy but I think it might be under harassment or at least it has felt like that for the past day with complaints flowing in on me.
Would it then be possible to change my paladin's name from Cannabis to Saradin


Response (CS) - 09/23/2002 11:21 AM
Greetings.

We have changed your name to Saradin as requested.


Case closed. Saradin comes from Saracen Paladin, this name ok to you all? Good.
 
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Damini

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Yes, I will judge a person on their looks. If they wore black clothes, black eye make up, and lots of silver jewelry, I will say they are into gothic type music. If they have a mohican, and wear tartan and braces, I will think they are into punk music. If they wear a t-shirt with a cannabis leaf on it, I will think they think drugs are cool. These people deliberately brand themselves to conform to a projected image, and that is exactly the same as what you have done with your name SFX. My hairs been every colour under the sun, my friends have peircings in places I didn't even know were penetratable, and guess what? The people with the piercings dont listen to S Club 7. You choose to project an image that conforms with your social group, to define you.

That name is the name you chose, and you can't seperate the name with the projection of personality in a game where you have complete autonomy over the choosing of your name. They are intrisically joined, as you decided upon that name, therefore some facet of your personality is invested in that. What people derive from that name is down to their own social experiences SFX, but by choosing a name that is far from the norm, and has high interpretative values, you shot yourself in the foot, as it challenges the normality and makes people make assumptions. Its very basic communication studies. You came here to open debate on the name, and so don't shoot people down when you get that. Human nature works on first impressions, which is why you dress the way you dress, wear your hair the way you do, the name you choose as the first thing people interact with...
 
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SFXman

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Mmm, then again these are just assumptions about their hobbies or such, I was referring to their personality. People can be very different on the outside compared to the inside.

Anyway... this thread has probably contained more words than my last 1000 posts before this thread so I will stop here unless more opinions arise.
As I said which you might have not seen yet in the post above, case closed.
 
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SFXman

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I have no idea. Well I am a saracen paladin so sure, why not :)
 
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ivan_tribbiani

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Originally posted by old.job
I'm sorry SFX , but that's so lame.
ANY idiot can call themselves a stupid name, it isn't clever, imaginative, humorous or cool to call your character after the world's most popular drug.

If Cannabis were the most pop drug we wouldnt have heavy alcoholism problem on our hands mate, against all prejudice cannabis unfortunately isnt the most commonly used drug per se :)

http://www.ncjrs.org/ondcppubs/publications/policy/99ndcs/ii-f.html

America only survey, but it should do.


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SFXman

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In google if you put:
"Saradin is"
, with the quotes, you get a load of weird stuff. I did make up this name myself though... might not be very creative combining the words saracen and paladin but it most certainly suites the age in the game :p
Has a LotR-tone to it.
 
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Gef

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What the hell is wrong with that name? Its legal in some countries, and in others police generally turn a blind eye. Nothing wrong with a bit of blow once in a while..

I saw someone called Vodka .. whats the difference?
 
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matax

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On the basis of Canabis being 'bad', don't we have to ban Gef's Avatar ? ;)
 
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Damini

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I don't recall anyone saying drugs are bad, mmmkay, it's just a bit of a Beavis and Butthead name for a character in a roleplay game. You guys are grappling the wrong end of the argument. If Vodka had come here and asked us to discuss his name, thats what we'd be doing. But he didn't.
 
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SFXman

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Gef has a point and actually so does matax, but the thing was that on the basis of the guild's policies my name was not ok. Although we used to have a character in LoE called Marlboro.
Cigarrettes are just as bad as marijuana except that marijuana is legal only in a number of countries.
This though has nothing to do with the topic in a sense.
 
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old.Revz

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The way I see a guild is that you join as a player, not just one character. This is why I insist people guild all alts amongst other things. If you create a character named cannabis then it reflects poorly on you as a player regardless of whether it was guilded at the time. If I don't think you are a responsible player then I would kick you from the guild. You don't have to agree but then again you don't run things. Perhaps naming a character cannabis in the first place gives an indication of why you don't run a guild.

As you can see here I'm not the only one who thinks it is a stupid name.
 
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Flimgoblin

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Have to agree with Damini...

might not be right to judge a book by its cover - but if you meet someone in a game called 'l33t d00d' you're not gonna give them time of day (unless you're into l33t d00dism of course :) in which case you'll be happy to group with them)

If they turn out to be completely different (an s-club 7 fan with piercings to use Damini's example) you'll never know, because you make an assumption on first sight..

I quite like Saradin :) resembles 'Saladin' - a successful turkish warlord, so the right part of the world for a Saracen :)

I guess to sum up:

If I was looking for someone to put in my group, and I clicked the 'find' button, and saw 'Cannabis level 8 paladin' and 'Saradin level 8 paladin' I know who I'd ask first.
 
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old.Biffsmash

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I make my chars with names I LIKE or in some way have meaning for me, my char names are on the whole, possibly stupid, but, I have never had any complaints before, and dont expect any.

As far as I am concerned, as long as the names arent blatantly Abusive, sexual, swearing, leet speak etc, they FOR ME are fine.

I would not be offended or upset if a name is not fitting with the game world because, I like to play with nice people whether they are called Solarius Doombringer or Voidy TheNukeBloke.
 
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SFXman

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I agree with Biffsmash and Fingoniel (part about my new name). Then again... ahh shucks.
Let's make the question: would you take me back now since I have changed my name and you know that I am a nice person and that my other characters also haev regular names?
 
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ivan_tribbiani

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Salah al-Din Yussuf ----> born a Kurd, became a warlord of the Muslim not Turks :) Turks-to-be represented a small part in that Arab or "Saracen" army :)
 
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old.Revz

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A more interesting question now :) Half of me says never take someone back that has shown a tendency to be stupid, having said that we have a second chance policy because everyone makes one mistake. Overall I would say yes should this have hypothetically have happend in SotL, but on the proviso any other retarded stunt gets you kicked permenantly.

Of course you have to get credit for having the name changed :cool:
 
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SFXman

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Ah, nice answer I must confess. I expected the complete opposite, an adamantium intergrity no.
Hmm, I was hesitating a bit when I requested the name but I miss the warmth of my guild chat and all that while I get on with the exp grind...
I enjoy the class immensly and must say that I must enjoy it to the maximum, that is enjoying the class amongst my dear guild, LoE. So in that sense the name change was worth it.
Although I still await my guilds decision on wether or not to invite this alt of mine.
 
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shani

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Well there is an armsman in our guild with the name "weed bunny" could it be a relative ?

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old.job

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Ivan wrote
If Cannabis were the most pop drug we wouldnt have heavy alcoholism problem on our hands mate, against all prejudice cannabis unfortunately isnt the most commonly used drug per se

Doh! I just KNEW someone was going to mention alchohol.

It's actually my favourite qoute, when I get sneered at for never taking drugs, I always like to point out that my large Bacardi and coke is far more damaging and powerful than their wimpy weed.
 
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old.mystah_e

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Names i hate ... sirsmokealot, sirmokealotweed, sirsmokemoreweedthanthelastbloke, sirforgetful, sirforgetmorethanwhatermmmmm.....daoc whats that...prffthh.
 
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ivan_tribbiani

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Originally posted by old.job
Ivan wrote

Doh! I just KNEW someone was going to mention alchohol.

It's actually my favourite qoute, when I get sneered at for never taking drugs, I always like to point out that my large Bacardi and coke is far more damaging and powerful than their wimpy weed.

:rollseyes: didnt mean to be a smartarse, im just bored at work as usual :)
 
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Yussef

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Salah al-Din Yussuf ----> born a Kurd, became a warlord of the Muslim not Turks Turks-to-be represented a small part in that Arab or "Saracen" army

My Saracen Paladin goes by the name of Yussef, rah im a warlord!
 
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